Does God desire the salvation of all mankind?

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I'm still waiting for Nehemiah6 to produce the scripture that I asked for. While you are at it, show me the scripture that says that everyone's name is in the book of life.
 

Blain

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Christ desires the salvation of all mankind and died for all mankind, but the Father's justice and mercy demands that only a few will be saved. If He condemns everyone, He would not be merciful. If He saves everyone, there would be no justice and sin would run rampant. The only solution is to show His mercy on a few predetermined individuals by granting them repentance, washing away their sins through His Son, and perfecting them through His Holy Spirit.
Yeah no sorry that is the wrong answer that isn't how the kingdom of God works Jesus was our example when he was on earth he had a mission and he was going full force on it he was bringing the kingdom and he was saving the lost he gave life and salvation for anyone who would listen even though there were many who hated him for it but he planted the seed anyway he went around planting seed after seed of the kingdom

He did this everywhere he went on every ear whether it took fruit or not because he understood the kingdom he understood the mission of rescuing lost people and he was a carpenter he knew all about hard work.

And because he was so radical in his mission he brought crowds of people even an entire city just trying to get a small glimpse of him people were shoving earch other trying to force their way to him

They got taste of the kingdom merely because he went around planting the seeds of the kingdom and those who lived their normal lives got a taste of the kingdom and wanted it so badly they were desperately trying to shove through each other to get to him.

When Jesus ascended he passed his mission on to us, it's frankly not our concern who can be saved or not he is the one who saves not us we just plant the seeds and watch what he does. You have to make people get a taste of the kingdom and make them so hungry for it they shove through crowds to get another taste of it we have salvation and heaven itself with us all the wonders of the kingdom the shining brilliance of the truth the salvation of the world and how many get saved depends on us it's our turn to take up the mission of Christ and if people are lost that shouldn't make us get into thinking of who can be saved or not it should quickem us to go and plant the seed of God regardless if they recieve it or not because we are the workers in the field but he reaps the harvest.
 

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Yeah no sorry that is the wrong answer that isn't how the kingdom of God works Jesus was our example when he was on earth he had a mission and he was going full force on it he was bringing the kingdom and he was saving the lost he gave life and salvation for anyone who would listen even though there were many who hated him for it but he planted the seed anyway he went around planting seed after seed of the kingdom

He did this everywhere he went on every ear whether it took fruit or not because he understood the kingdom he understood the mission of rescuing lost people and he was a carpenter he knew all about hard work.

And because he was so radical in his mission he brought crowds of people even an entire city just trying to get a small glimpse of him people were shoving earch other trying to force their way to him

They got taste of the kingdom merely because he went around planting the seeds of the kingdom and those who lived their normal lives got a taste of the kingdom and wanted it so badly they were desperately trying to shove through each other to get to him.

When Jesus ascended he passed his mission on to us, it's frankly not our concern who can be saved or not he is the one who saves not us we just plant the seeds and watch what he does. You have to make people get a taste of the kingdom and make them so hungry for it they shove through crowds to get another taste of it we have salvation and heaven itself with us all the wonders of the kingdom the shining brilliance of the truth the salvation of the world and how many get saved depends on us it's our turn to take up the mission of Christ and if people are lost that shouldn't make us get into thinking of who can be saved or not it should quickem us to go and plant the seed of God regardless if they recieve it or not because we are the workers in the field but he reaps the harvest.
"Your soundness of words are rare within these pages!
"Thank you for sharing some spiritual truth that many remain clueless of."
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Blain

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"Your soundness of words are rare within these pages!
"Thank you for sharing some spiritual truth that many remain clueless of."
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Thats because it's not my words if it was my words it would be useless garbage comming from my lips wjatever I would post no matter how Godly it would seem if it isn't his words which is the only words that have life and truth in them it would be a complete waste just empty writings that isn't going to reach anyone.

I have been activated and I am not who I was before I made the decision that no matter what I say im not going to question if it was from God or not I am going to already have already have it in my mind and heart that he is speaking

Honestly I am probably and excuse my language here but Im probably going to piss off the powers of hell I felt a trickle of it just a while ago but See I'm for the kingdom and I reighn in the kingdom with him I have a mission to bring the kingdom here and to raise his children to take up their staff and rise in him there are levels and ranks in his kingdom and yet even the lowest rank in the kingdom has all his authority and power so when I felt hells lust after I just said try at your own risk
 

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Christ desires the salvation of all mankind and died for all mankind, but the Father's justice and mercy demands that only a few will be saved. If He condemns everyone, He would not be merciful. If He saves everyone, there would be no justice and sin would run rampant.
Jesus Christ died on the cross in our place. That’s the justice. Where exactly does it state in the Bible that the Father’s justice and mercy demands that only a few will be saved? Please provide the book, the chapter and verse.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Good point. I should have stipulated that it be kept fresh.

The fresh popcorn act is in the works.
Well I don't want to start anything here, but I think Snacks should start living up to his name. I get hungry every time I see his posts. I often wonder, what are Snacks favorite snacks? And why isn't he sharing with the rest of us? :unsure:
 

Cameron143

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Well I don't want to start anything here, but I think Snacks should start living up to his name. I get hungry every time I see his posts. I often wonder, what are Snacks favorite snacks? And why isn't he sharing with the rest of us? :unsure:
Maybe he is using his username to convey gift ideas. I'm thinking about changing my username to bigscreenplasmatv before Christmas.
 

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Please show me where in scripture it says that names in the book of life will be blotted out (or expunged) when a person remains unrepentant. I'll be waiting for you to provide the scripture. It seems that you are saying that God makes mistakes.
Revelation 3:5?
 
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What revelation 3:5 is saying is that those that have their names in the book of life are those that have overcomed and will have their names still in the book of life. If you think about it, Christ knows the past, present, and future. The book of life was written before the world was. Do you think that He needs an eraser to erase the names of those He errored in puting their names in the book? Christ does not err.
 

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What revelation 3:5 is saying is that those that have their names in the book of life are those that have overcomed and will have their names still in the book of life. If you think about it, Christ knows the past, present, and future. The book of life was written before the world was.
What then do we do with this?:

Rev 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
 
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Yeah no sorry that is the wrong answer that isn't how the kingdom of God works Jesus was our example when he was on earth he had a mission and he was going full force on it he was bringing the kingdom and he was saving the lost he gave life and salvation for anyone who would listen even though there were many who hated him for it but he planted the seed anyway he went around planting seed after seed of the kingdom

He did this everywhere he went on every ear whether it took fruit or not because he understood the kingdom he understood the mission of rescuing lost people and he was a carpenter he knew all about hard work.

And because he was so radical in his mission he brought crowds of people even an entire city just trying to get a small glimpse of him people were shoving earch other trying to force their way to him

They got taste of the kingdom merely because he went around planting the seeds of the kingdom and those who lived their normal lives got a taste of the kingdom and wanted it so badly they were desperately trying to shove through each other to get to him.

When Jesus ascended he passed his mission on to us, it's frankly not our concern who can be saved or not he is the one who saves not us we just plant the seeds and watch what he does. You have to make people get a taste of the kingdom and make them so hungry for it they shove through crowds to get another taste of it we have salvation and heaven itself with us all the wonders of the kingdom the shining brilliance of the truth the salvation of the world and how many get saved depends on us it's our turn to take up the mission of Christ and if people are lost that shouldn't make us get into thinking of who can be saved or not it should quickem us to go and plant the seed of God regardless if they recieve it or not because we are the workers in the field but he reaps the harvest.
The only thing correct about your post is that we are Christ's workmen in spreading the Gospel. His kingdom is His body which is made up of saved Christians and Christ is the head and His scepter is one of righteousness. That means that saved Christians not only have their sins erased but are born again and perfected. They become righteous because they get filled by the Holy Spirit of the Father and Son so that all thoughts and actions are motivated by Divine Love. We become righteous because we then obey the Spirit of the Law. Sadly, people who think that all that they have to do is believe that Christ died for their sins without being born again and receiving this divine love by the Holy Spirit which perfects them will not be in Christ's kingdom of righteousness. If you think that you are a Christian but still continue to sin and are not perfected, Christ will say to you that He never knew you. Don't forget that even Satan and his demons are aware of the Father's plan for the salvation of man through Jesus Christ. They are the ones that distort the Gospel of which many on CC are their workmen.
 

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What revelation 3:5 is saying is that those that have their names in the book of life are those that have overcomed and will have their names still in the book of life. If you think about it, Christ knows the past, present, and future. The book of life was written before the world was. Do you think that He needs an eraser to erase the names of those He errored in puting their names in the book? Christ does not err.
Yes, He does know, but that's different than him determining who will and who won't be saved. That is not the character of God.
 

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What then do we do with this?:
Rev 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. (Exod 32:33)
 
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Yes, He does know, but that's different than him determining who will and who won't be saved. That is not the character of God.
If He knows in advance, why would He have to blot names out of His book? Doesn't that mean that once saved does not necessarily mean always saved? The only reasoning that I can come up with is that since God transcends time, the blotting out that occurs in Revelation and Exodus happens before the world was.
 
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All Sin for all people is dealt with ---so all can be saved -----how------ they need to do as the Word Who Is Jesus tells them to do -----which He gives clear instructions in His Word on How to be Saved -----

Romans 10:9 tells Us how to be Saved -----very clearly laid out in plain language ----we either choose to do as Jesus says or we reject to do as Jesus says ----all up to us -----

Romans 10:9

Berean Literal Bible
that if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him out from the dead, you will be saved.

Amplified Bible says this

Amplified Bible
because if you acknowledge and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord [recognizing His power, authority, and majesty as God], and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

I say ------No one today goes to Hell for their sins ------Jesus took care of that ----the person today Chooses to go to Hell by rejecting the free offer brought about by Jesus Christ through the Shedding of His Blood to cover all Sin for all time for all people ----




I say -----I think people are very confused about Faith -------we cannot choose to have Faith ----All Faith is given by God Not us ------it is not Faith that we can personally choose ------

It is not our Faith ------it is God's faith and only He can open our heart to the Right Faith to be saved ----God's Faith that He inparts to us by and through the Word has to be in Jesus Christ -------

This Scripture lays out who's faith it is ------

Galatians 3 Amp

22 But the Scripture has imprisoned [a]everyone [everything—the entire world] under sin, so that [the inheritance, the blessing of salvation] which was promised through faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe [in Him and acknowledge Him as God’s precious Son].


Galatians 3:22

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22 But the Scriptures [picture all mankind as sinners] shut up and imprisoned by sin, so that [the inheritance, blessing] which was promised through faith in Jesus Christ (the Messiah) might be given (released, delivered, and committed) to [all] those who believe [who adhere to and trust in and rely on Him].
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So you see here that it is not just saying that you believe ---Belief here is much deeper than just saying you believe -----you are to Adhear to ---and Trust in and Rely on Him --------so Your Faith is IN JESUS and when you mature your faith IN Jesus Grows -------

Jesus taught a partial truth about Romans 10:9--- Yes belief is much deeper--obeying everything he taught is proof of ones love for him. That is -THE WAY. Learning and applying everything he taught because one has belief in him. And Jesus assures belief means more that plain believing at Matt 7:22-23-- these believe, but will lose.
 
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What revelation 3:5 is saying is that those that have their names in the book of life are those that have overcomed and will have their names still in the book of life. If you think about it, Christ knows the past, present, and future. The book of life was written before the world was. Do you think that He needs an eraser to erase the names of those He errored in puting their names in the book? Christ does not err.
1 John 5:1-5 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of (by) God; and everyone that loveth him that begot loveth him also that is begotten of (by) Him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not burdensome. For whatever is born of (by) God overcometh the world; and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even ( that is ) our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the son of God?
The reason His commandments are not burdensome is because we no longer have to obey the letter of the Law. When we receive the Holy Spirit of the Father and Son, we will have our hearts filled with the Divine Love that the Father and Son share so that all of our thoughts and actions are motivated by this love. We will then be perfected and will be obeying the Spirit of the Law.