It is simpler for me to just say what my take is.
You guys always turn this into you "insult" us etc. I know in your view I am black listed
except ofcourse with those who agree with the points I am making.
Your assertion here in the OP is that God KILLS HIS CHILDREN.
You have not backed that up Scripturally.
Your points remain unproven according to Scripture itself - only your OPINION supports your OPINION.
Several posts have been made to SCRIPTURALLY support my and others' assertion that God DOES NOT KILL HIS CHILDREN.
I am content to let the reader decide.
Jesus said "do not resist the evil person."
So God bless you all. And it has never been about me, it is about Christ and His working
in His people. I am surprised at how things get turned on their heads, but that is your
want.
It is all your own doing, PeterJens.
And JGIG, you are what you are. I am not saying you are possessed or not, because I do
not know. I was responding to your personal attack saying I made God in my image.
Trying to save face now, eh? Are you saying that you were not implying that I am possessed by a spirit (small 's')? Careful, Peter. You've kind of stuck yourself between a rock and a hard place. Tell the truth.
Elsewhere you write,
Originally Posted by PeterJens
You simply cannot be a part of the Kingdom and be possessed. It would be
like saying the Holy Spirit is less than demons, which is a total contradiction
to the faith and the cross.
. . . which I happen to agree with, but which also means you were accusing me of not being a believer. I either have the Spirit of God within or not, and if not, an evil spirit could be at work, that IS what you were saying, isn't it? But you attempt to protect yourself from scrutiny by phrasing it thus: "
So easily you condemn fellow believers it makes me wonder at the spirit at work in your lives. Do you not believe you can be possessed by a spirit and
still be following the Lord? Maybe this is your reality after all."
And then you won't own up to what you're really implying.
That kind of behavior is dishonest and lacking in integrity.
You say that you were responding to a 'personal attack' saying that you made God in your image. Here's what I said in response to the following post of yours:
Originally Posted by PeterJens
Listened to Andrew Farley. This is just a continual repetition of forgiven for sin
done once for all. So ofcourse future sin is forgiven, so there can be no judgement
for bad behaviour like Ananias or eating communion without due respect.
It does not answer the question at all, it is just a distraction.
The enemy will always say, listen to your model of God not the word of God.
But you only know if you walk correctly in the Lord is through the word of God
in your heart.
Originally Posted by JGIG
PeterJens, here is the Word of God:
18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. (from 1 Pet. 3)
9 We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. 10 For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. (from Rom. 6)
24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him. (from Heb. 9)
27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. (from Heb. 7)
You ignore those Scriptures and see judgement for sins in other Scriptures where there are in reality natural consequences for bad behavior.
It is YOU who is creating a god in your own image, and not relying on what Scripture has to say about God, His Good News, and what the Blood of Christ and life in Him accomplished on mankind's behalf.
-JGIG
Your assertion was that God, in Christ, did not forgive our sins once for all, which opens the door to your opinion that GOD KILLS HIS OWN CHILDREN as punishment for sin. I replied with Scriptures that showed your assertion to be false.
God DOES NOT kill His own children as punishment for sin. Punishment for sin was doled out at the Cross. That God KILLS HIS OWN CHILDREN as punishment for sin is your opinion, conjured up in your own mind based on a false premise about Who God is and about the forgiveness that He's provided in Christ. You HAVE created a god that is not the God of the Bible - a god based on your own imaginings and not based on Scripture.
I am surprised how listening to your words, there is no grace or even ability to see what I
am clearly saying.
Do you think Paul ungracious, as well, when he advised those who wanted to live under the law to castrate themselves? Or do you think he was making a valuable, needed point by being blunt?
Ananias and his wife died after they lied.
As Scripture states.
Scripture does NOT state that God KILLED HIS CHILDREN as punishment for their sin.
Paul said people were ill and died after the eat
communion in an unworthy manner.
As Scripture states. Folks were being gluttonous and getting drunk. Both behaviors which can lead to physical death.
Scripture does NOT state that God KILLS HIS CHILDREN as punishment for their sin.
Nothing has been shared that would say this is not
judgement from the Lord in my view.
IN YOUR VIEW. You are drawing conclusions that are not written in Scripture, based on a false premise that not all sin was dealt with at the Cross and that God KILLS HIS OWN CHILDREN as punishment for sin.
That is ERROR, PeterJens, based on bad hermeneutics.
And that is the point of the thread, nothing more, nothing less.
Thankyou for your contributions. God bless you all, even those who want to make
everything antagonistic.