God did not predestine anyone to go to hell. God gave mankind the freedom to choose how he wants to live his life as he sojourns here in this world, and man choose his own destiny, by choosing not to seek God, Psalms 53:2-3. This is why God choose a portion of those that would not seek him, to be his elect, and had his Son, by his sacrifice on the cross, to adopt them as his children. Eph 1:5.
Does salvation come through Gods pre destined election or the free will of man?
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The scripture that you are attempting to quote is Romans 10:9-10. By keeping the chapter in context, we have to go back to verse 1 to determine who Paul is talking about, which is Jacob/Israel. God changed Jacob's name to be no more called Jacob, but to be called Israel. Gen 33:28. Jacob/Israel is representative of God's elect, Rom 9:11.
In verse 1 Paul is praying that God's eternally saved (delivered) elect will be saved (delivered) from their lack of knowledge of the gospel. Saved, according to Greek interpretation, means "delivered". Besides our eternal deliverance, there is deliverances that we receive as we sojourn here in this world. The lack of separating the different "deliverance"(salvations) will cause one to interpret the scriptures to teach "eternal salvation by the good works of man".
We receive deliverance here in this world by our good works, but we, only, receive our eternal deliverance by God's sovereign grace, without the help of man's good works.
Because of the "zeal of God" in verse 2, indicates that these people were already born again believers in God, and in verse 3, by not receiving the knowledge of the gospel, they were going about to establish their own righteousness, by their good works, having not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
In verse 10, Paul is addressing the same born again children of God, to believe unto the righteousness of God, and confess with their mouth to be delivered (saved) from their lack of knowledge of the righteousness of God, with the understanding that they have the imputed righteousness of Christ.
I realise that this is a lot to absorb at one time, but to me, this harmonizes with all of the other scriptures. The preserved and inspired scriptures are intended by God to be instructions to his elect (born again believers) on how God wants his children to live their lives, as they sojourn here in this world.
In verse 1 Paul is praying that God's eternally saved (delivered) elect will be saved (delivered) from their lack of knowledge of the gospel. Saved, according to Greek interpretation, means "delivered". Besides our eternal deliverance, there is deliverances that we receive as we sojourn here in this world. The lack of separating the different "deliverance"(salvations) will cause one to interpret the scriptures to teach "eternal salvation by the good works of man".
We receive deliverance here in this world by our good works, but we, only, receive our eternal deliverance by God's sovereign grace, without the help of man's good works.
Because of the "zeal of God" in verse 2, indicates that these people were already born again believers in God, and in verse 3, by not receiving the knowledge of the gospel, they were going about to establish their own righteousness, by their good works, having not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
In verse 10, Paul is addressing the same born again children of God, to believe unto the righteousness of God, and confess with their mouth to be delivered (saved) from their lack of knowledge of the righteousness of God, with the understanding that they have the imputed righteousness of Christ.
I realise that this is a lot to absorb at one time, but to me, this harmonizes with all of the other scriptures. The preserved and inspired scriptures are intended by God to be instructions to his elect (born again believers) on how God wants his children to live their lives, as they sojourn here in this world.
Once we have been reborn of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, we still carry the baggage of our fleshly nature, and do still commit sins. When we turn away from God by committing a sin, and are pricked (made to feel guilty) in our soft new heart, we are inclined to repent of that sin. When we ask forgiveness and God forgives us, we have just been delivered from that sin.
Rom 9:6, Not as though the word of God hath taken non effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel.
Rom 9:11, For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, THAT THE PURPOSE OF ELECTION MIGHT STAND, not of works but of him who calleth. Can you explain to me how this scripture is referencing "service"?
Rom 9:11, For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, THAT THE PURPOSE OF ELECTION MIGHT STAND, not of works but of him who calleth. Can you explain to me how this scripture is referencing "service"?
Once again, you've got it backwards. Only those who believe receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
EPHESIANS 1:13,14
THE GOSPEL IS FIRST PREACHED AND THEN FAITH IS GENERATED
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the Word of Truth, the Gospel of your salvation...
SINNERS MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON CHRIST
...in whom also after that ye believed...
THEN THEY RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
...ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise...
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE GUARANTEE OF ETERNAL LIFE
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
How does anyone who seriously reads the Bible reverse what is plainly stated? Obviously man-made doctrines trump Scripture.
EPHESIANS 1:13,14
THE GOSPEL IS FIRST PREACHED AND THEN FAITH IS GENERATED
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the Word of Truth, the Gospel of your salvation...
SINNERS MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON CHRIST
...in whom also after that ye believed...
THEN THEY RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
...ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise...
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE GUARANTEE OF ETERNAL LIFE
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
How does anyone who seriously reads the Bible reverse what is plainly stated? Obviously man-made doctrines trump Scripture.
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