Dual Covenant Theology

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Dual Covenant Theology: True or False

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i'm not interested in your dialectic. stop muddying my thread.
you've already said what you believe.
move along.

you're not for the Gospel.
i got it.
Not for whos Gospel?
Yours?
Absolutelty
 
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Maybe she does not intend to defend the Gospel. I guess that would not make the two of you all that different.
Defend your Gospel with plain scripture
Give me a plain text that states you must believe Jesus is the one true God to inherit eternal life
 
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jimmydiggs

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Now that did make me smile
Yes, because you have some similarities with the Pharisees.

Mark 8
[SUP]14 [/SUP]The disciples had forgotten to bring bread, except for one loaf they had with them in the boat. [SUP]15 [/SUP]“Be careful,” Jesus warned them. “Watch out for the yeast of the Pharisees and that of Herod.”
[SUP]16 [/SUP]They discussed this with one another and said, “It is because we have no bread.”
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Aware of their discussion, Jesus asked them: “Why are you talking about having no bread? Do you still not see or understand? Are your hearts hardened? [SUP]18 [/SUP]Do you have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear? And don’t you remember? [SUP]19 [/SUP]When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up?”
“Twelve,” they replied.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]“And when I broke the seven loaves for the four thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up?”
They answered, “Seven.”
[SUP]21 [/SUP]He said to them, “Do you still not understand?”


Grace is in front of you, and you don't even understand it.

1 Cor. 2:14
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit
of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because
they are spiritually discerned.

Jesus is God.
 

zone

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I know you are filled with much hate Zone, and it is not in order to defend the Gospel
the only thing i hate is ANTIGOSPEL non gospels.

Jesus Christ (Emmanuel) suffered and died ON A CROSS to save men from their sins and translate them into the eternal Kingdom which He said is not of this world.

no difference at all.

go read the book of Acts.

you don't even get that much so how would you know anything at all about the Gospel.

no clue.
 

loveme1

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John 3
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
May it be that you all forgive each other and reason without the "accusations"

Be patient my friends.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Defend your Gospel with plain scripture
It's not my Gospel to defend.

Give me a plain text that states
Don't be so foolish as to think everything in scripture is foolish. Many things, dare I say most.. require the spirit. That might be problematic for you.

you must believe Jesus is the one true God to inherit eternal life
If you saught to understand what the author is telling us, rather than a specific set of words you might find what you claim is not present.
 

zone

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Not for whos Gospel?
Yours?
Absolutelty
arianism and ethnic cleasning (GENOCIDE) - another christ and another gospel.

the distinction between us is evident.
i'm quite satisfied to reject your gospel.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Lol
This is Phariseeiccal
Man mande demands to follow God
Grace, the bread, is in front of you. You don't even see it.

Jesus is God.

The natural man does not discern the spiritual.

Repent and believe.
 
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the only thing i hate is ANTIGOSPEL non gospels.

Jesus Christ (Emmanuel) suffered and died ON A CROSS to save men from their sins and translate them into the eternal Kingdom which He said is not of this world.
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And you refuse to accept the requirement of belief Christ himself laid down as to who a person must believe him to be to inherit eternal life by adding to it
Neither Christ, Paul, Peter James or John made such a demand as you do, neither would hardly any Trinitarian ministers plainly demand it from their pulpits, neither well of 90% of members of Trinitarian chuirches would demand it either
But a few head theologists on the internet will for they are led of the academic mind, not the Spirit, and are wise in their own eyes
 
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Grace, the bread, is in front of you. You don't even see it.

Jesus is God.

The natural man does not discern the spiritual.

Repent and believe.
I see you've got no scripture

And you refuse to accept the requirement of belief Christ himself laid down as to who a person must believe him to be to inherit eternal life by adding to it
Neither Christ, Paul, Peter James or John made such a demand as you do, neither would hardly any Trinitarian ministers plainly demand it from their pulpits, neither well of 90% of members of Trinitarian chuirches would demand it either
But a few head theologists on the internet will for they are led of the academic mind, not the Spirit, and are wise in their own eyes
 
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arianism and ethnic cleasning (GENOCIDE) - another christ and another gospel.

the distinction between us is evident.
i'm quite satisfied to reject your gospel.
So because I ASKED YOU IF God ordered ethnic cleansing when the Israelites initially took the land(a question you refuse to answer) you now accuse me of desiring ethnic cleansing and promnoting Genocide
 
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eternally-gratefull

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you're on the run and you know it.
i've put up with this for years from you EG.
you better get serious about what you believe.
Get serious? I have been since I have been here. Even though you CONTINUE to say I believe things I don't

Your the one who needs to get serious, and admit you do not know what we believe.


what's this nonsense?



just disgusting.
rev 19:
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs [SUP][h][/SUP]in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with [SUP][i][/SUP]brimstone. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

Yep, pretty disgusting isn't it. Ow how I wish instead of rejecting the God who died for them, they were saved.. But at this point it is to late.

Sorry you think God is so mean and unrighteous in what he does.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Neither of the two should kill the either. Wholesale genocide, which is often advocated by the political right in this country through nicely put words is still wrong regardless of those subject.

I'm not claiming you advocate genocide, I haven't read your posts. All I can say is, I see a lot of the political right advocating thoroughly unbiblical foreign policies, and I am one of the most politically right-wing people I know.
Nah, I do not advocate killing just for hate or in the name of God. The church did enough of this for hundreds of years. they do not need us to continue what they started.

God never ordered the church to kill anyone, He ordered them to save the lost by love..

 
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eternally-gratefull

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no philosophical whining EG.
show me in The New Testament where Jesus said ANYTHING about killing for the Kingdom.
and you put up it it, and allow for it.

repent and we're good to go.
if not, forget it.
Your a liar and to be honest, I do not even know you. Your hate has got you so deep in denial you can't even post things right.

I do not support the killing of anyone, never have, never will. What GOD does when he returns, that is up to him.

vengence is mine sayeth the lord.. Killing in the name of God is a sin,, and you KNOW I KNOW THIS.

I do not even know the person I am talking to now.. who are you? definately not the Zone I know
 

zone

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So because I ASKED YOU IF God ordered ethnic cleansing when the Israelites initially took the land(a question you refuse to answer) you now accuse me of desiring ethnic cleansing and promnoting Genocide
you're an arian - another christ

you're for millennialism - ethnic cleansing.

it's a simple and plain as that.
it's the only reason that eschatology remains.
you can have it.
you can't make sense of it, because it's not of God.

you don't believe anything was Amen and fulfilled in the True Christ.
nothing you say has any weight at all.

address Dual Covenant Theology on this thread, or start your own about Emmanuel not being Emmanuel.
i thought i made this request 3 times already.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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i'm not interested in your dialectic. stop muddying my thread.
you've already said what you believe.
move along.

you're not for the Gospel.
i got it.

Can anyone in this chatroom actually believe mark is not for the Gospel? Mark believes we are saved by grace not works.. He believes we are saved eternally.

So because he does not believe like Zone does.. he does not believe the gospel?? Is there anyone here who loves zone and can talk to her who can reprove her and let her know she is wrong??
 
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you're an arian - another christ

you're for millennialism - ethnic cleansing.

it's a simple and plain as that.
it's the only reason that eschatology remains.
you can have it.
you can't make sense of it, because it's not of God.

you don't believe anything was Amen and fulfilled in the True Christ.
nothing you say has any weight at all.

address Dual Covenant Theology on this thread, or start your own about Emmanuel not being Emmanuel.
i thought i made this request 3 times already.

All you have is your head theology isn't it of looking to your theologians and scholars
You know, the average church goer would not have read or studied a small fraction of what you have, but they would understand far more truth of what really mattered than you ever will Zone, and that is tragic
 
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eternally-gratefull

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you're an arian - another christ

you're for millennialism - ethnic cleansing.

it's a simple and plain as that.
it's the only reason that eschatology remains.
you can have it.
you can't make sense of it, because it's not of God.

you don't believe anything was Amen and fulfilled in the True Christ.
nothing you say has any weight at all.

address Dual Covenant Theology on this thread, or start your own about Emmanuel not being Emmanuel.
i thought i made this request 3 times already.
we have, we said it is the lie from Hell, and is not founded in scripture

you called us liars.. and now you want us to bow to your every whim?? Try again.


You admit we do not believe in dual covenant,, or is that to low for you to place yourself that you have no humility to admit your wrong??
 

zone

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Your a liar and to be honest, I do not even know you. Your hate has got you so deep in denial you can't even post things right.

I do not support the killing of anyone, never have, never will. What GOD does when he returns, that is up to him.

vengence is mine sayeth the lord.. Killing in the name of God is a sin,, and you KNOW I KNOW THIS.

I do not even know the person I am talking to now.. who are you? definately not the Zone I know
you are preaching God wants gentiles out of Israel, that this is the Plan.
i don't care how you try to bandage it, that's your position.

it's killing. nothing less.

the zone you know, you still know...the very same one that has pleaded with you for years to STOP supporting a non existent plan of salvation for the jews.

when you come out with a direct teaching that God will get rid of gentiles in Palestine i am forced to make my stand.
you do not know what you are teaching, and i can't help it.
you will not listen to anyone.

you don't know who is a jew and who isn't.
millennialism is antisemitism, and nothing you say can undo it.

it's enabling rebellion and rejection of Christ, and those people are going to make their graves there, dead in trespasses and sins.

SINCE WHEN are christians EVER called to stand between or for unbelieving jews and unbelieving arabs in their UNBELIEF and killing over Land, or anyone else?

this ignorance over a fake Land Promise that it all hinges on.
buying right into it all.

the zone you know will not go along with it any more.
not when you've said it out loud.

you keep saying it's not a salvation issue as people's blood pours out of their bodies and into the ground.

i can't and won't.
 
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