Eat My Flesh Drink My Blood

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BarlyGurl

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#81
if we really got to the nitty gritty, None of us would follow his ten, let alone his many other commands in a way which we would be deemed "righteous" enough to earn salvation.

Eternal, Here is another area I notice you are off kilter in your theology- I was just reading the thread and happen to notice here that you mention the 10 Commandments and "many other commands... to earn salvation". I am guessing that the other commands you are speaking of religious ordinances, and the HEBREW LAWS which was the institution on the GOVERNMENT. Each of these "laws" were separate in purpose and function from the 10 commandments. I also notice this makes sense to me that you would think that... since you didn't think feeding the 5000 ocurred just before passover was significant either. I think it is kinda sad that you are missing some of the depth and splendor woven into the scriptures. Just sayin...
 

loveme1

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Mark 8

19 When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve.

20 And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven.

21 And he said unto them, How is it that ye do not understand?
something that i marveled at i had only heard of the five thousand before reading the Bible.

The depths of the Bible are wonderful.. indeed.
 
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Abiding

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#83

I think hes eating some barley soup.
 
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BarlyGurl

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#84

I think hes eating some barley soup.
hmmmm... uh... speechless... eyebrows knit together.... brow furrowed... wondering where in all of cyberland you found such a picture??????? And not really sure what xactly is being said :eek:
 
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psychomom

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#85
hmmmm... uh... speechless... eyebrows knit together.... brow furrowed... wondering where in all of cyberland you found such a picture??????? And not really sure what xactly is being said :eek:
Not to worry, BarlyGurl, Abiding means no harm.
That's just his way of showing love and friendship. :)

He IS pretty amazing with those pics, though, right? ;)

Um...would you mind terribly if I called you BG?
(lazy, is what I am! lol)
If you do, no problem, BarlyGurl is A OKAY. :)
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If we were to gather ourselves as a local body of believers to partake of the Lord's broken bread and and the cup of His new testament blood, what would we discern of the Lord's body? Would we let the Holy Spirit convict us as we take a moment to examine ourselves according to the faith or would we partake of the bread and cup unworthily? The bread and cup that is to be taken as often as we do is done in remembrance of the Lord and His death until He comes.

1Cor 11:26-30
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

This letter was delivered to the church at Corinth because of the many problems they were having with communion and with one another in that local expression of the body of Christ. Paul seems to be redirecting them concerning the Lord's supper (v.23-25) and what took place and for what purpose it was instituted as the last supper. There were definite consequences for some who would eat and drink unworthily (treating it as a common, unfit and unclean thing) and would be guilty of the body and blood bringing damnation (a form of disciplined judgment) upon themselves, as mentioned in (v.27,29, 30).

Did the consequences of this damnation, with many being weak and sickly and others having fallen asleep through death, befall them because their lives where being lived unworthily outside the faith having no discernment as to the what the body and blood of Christ has done for them through His death? Was this case at Corinth an example of what happens to believers who do not eat and partake of Christ's flesh and drink His blood in a worthy manner? Can we live in sin outside the faith we have been given and partake of the body and blood of Christ and live?
 
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Abiding

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#87
Nice red the first para is a beautiful time im happy the Lord decreed.
The cleansing of the heart and freeing of the conscience that happens.

And there have been times with myself and people ive know that
didnt feel in the right heart and mind to partake,
 
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psychomom

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#88
If we were to gather ourselves as a local body of believers to partake of the Lord's broken bread and and the cup of His new testament blood, what would we discern of the Lord's body? Would we let the Holy Spirit convict us as we take a moment to examine ourselves according to the faith or would we partake of the bread and cup unworthily? The bread and cup that is to be taken as often as we do is done in remembrance of the Lord and His death until He comes.

1Cor 11:26-30
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

This letter was delivered to the church at Corinth because of the many problems they were having with communion and with one another in that local expression of the body of Christ. Paul seems to be redirecting them concerning the Lord's supper (v.23-25) and what took place and for what purpose it was instituted as the last supper. There were definite consequences for some who would eat and drink unworthily (treating it as a common, unfit and unclean thing) and would be guilty of the body and blood bringing damnation (a form of disciplined judgment) upon themselves, as mentioned in (v.27,29, 30).

Did the consequences of this damnation, with many being weak and sickly and others having fallen asleep through death, befall them because their lives where being lived unworthily outside the faith having no discernment as to the what the body and blood of Christ has done for them through His death? Was this case at Corinth an example of what happens to believers who do not eat and partake of Christ's flesh and drink His blood in a worthy manner? Can we live in sin outside the faith we have been given and partake of the body and blood of Christ and live?
This...has humbled me...and caused me to examine myself.
You bring the deeper meaning here, Red.
Thank you.
And thank God. ♥
 
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Abiding

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#89
hmmmm... uh... speechless... eyebrows knit together.... brow furrowed... wondering where in all of cyberland you found such a picture??????? And not really sure what xactly is being said :eek:
thats just you waiting for Eg and you felll alseep in your barley field.
ok so it was a giant dud.:cool: it happens
sorta lost its impact when she changed her avatar
 
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Nice red the first para is a beautiful time im happy the Lord decreed.
The cleansing of the heart and freeing of the conscience that happens.

And there have been times with myself and people ive know that
didnt feel in the right heart and mind to partake,
That's a good thing and not to be condemned but would it have been better to first examine ourselves through the cross and be convicted through the word and Spirit, confess to God according to what we are convicted and then by faith partake of communion. We don't have to get into repentance to partake, just examine, be convicted, name it and go on by faith and partake. Should we lose or forfeit an opportunity for fellowship and communion with Christ and His body when He has already judged and put away our sins?

Before the feast of the passover in (Jn 13) the Lord rose up from supper and girded Himself with a towel and washed the disciple's feet. He told them they would not understand what He was doing but later they would (Jn 13:7). In (Mt 26) at the time of the passover, Jesus and the (12) disciples sat down to eat the passover, as they were eating He took the bread and the cup and blessed and gave thanks giving to the disciples to take and eat and drink. There was a time of washing their feet before He broke bread with them.

The Lord did the same in (Jn 21) with the fire, fish and bread He had waiting for them at the shore of the sea of Tiberias after the disciples had forsaken Him and many had gone with Peter fishing. There was no condemnation but plenty of self examination in the hearts of the disciples when they saw the Lord. Them drawing near to eat with Him revealed the grace that was in their hearts and the fellowship they desired of the Lord. In (v.13) the Lord took the bread and gave to them and the fish likewise. The bread typified His body that was broken for them but the fish typified what he had promised and called them to do in (Mt 4:19, Mk 1:17), 'Come and follow me and I will make you a fishers of men,'
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#91
My Bad.... Eternal.... You seem to be trying to pour the contents of this entire thread into this one discussion. My original post was about the context of John 6 "teaching" being just prior to Passover alluding to its significance. YOU responded by saying that wasn't the case and when I showed you it was... you dismissed it as being unrelated.


Well I see your still upset. Sorry. No I did not dismiss it, I was trying to make sure you were not relating it to communion or the Eucharist as many people do. if you have discussed john 6 wiht many Catholics you would understand where I am coming from.

I find it odd that we seem to be having an argument about context... where as I was saying yours was too limited and needed a broader look... yet between you and I... your positition seems to be the context of the entire thread. All I was trying to do was "feed" the reader something delicious to prompt the hunger for more... at least 2 others noticed and approved... yet you keep pushing away the platter. I am sorry you find the service so poor, I am not a competitive person and have no desire to spar with you... I thought perhaps you or another reader might be encouraged and find the meat had new savor.
Yes, this meat which never dies, and keeps on feeding us day after day until we die. Which was my point.

Again, i was not trying to argue, Just saying we must be careful, again, if you have discussed this with many Catholics, you would understand my reasoning.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#92
Communion is not a symbolic act. It is what Christ commanded us to do in remembrance of him. He did not say this was a symbol. Man says this is a symbol and they are wrong

Passover was a symbol, The law of the sacrifice was a symbol. God commanded many of his people Old and NT to do things whihc were symbols of reality, They are teaching tools. Just because God commanded us to do something does not mean it is not a symbol. This is exactly why I had the discussion with Barleygirl, because people like you distort John 6 and make its meaning totally useless.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#93
if we really got to the nitty gritty, None of us would follow his ten, let alone his many other commands in a way which we would be deemed "righteous" enough to earn salvation.

Eternal, Here is another area I notice you are off kilter in your theology- I was just reading the thread and happen to notice here that you mention the 10 Commandments and "many other commands... to earn salvation". I am guessing that the other commands you are speaking of religious ordinances, and the HEBREW LAWS which was the institution on the GOVERNMENT. Each of these "laws" were separate in purpose and function from the 10 commandments. I also notice this makes sense to me that you would think that... since you didn't think feeding the 5000 ocurred just before passover was significant either. I think it is kinda sad that you are missing some of the depth and splendor woven into the scriptures. Just sayin...


Wow! I guess I really upset you that you would be making such accusations against me. I don;t know what else to do other than to keep saying I am sorry if you misunderstood me. You see above someone who takes the communion aspect of John 6 and distorts it into something literal. Which is why I was saying we should be carefull doing such, for the sake of others who were aught different.

As for the ten. There are many commands which are not in the ten which are still considered sin. people want to stick to the ten, and theink because they have never broken the ten they are ok. I call the ten the law for dummies. Because we can not even do these things 100 %, But what about all the other commands God gave? Like do not forsake the assembling of ourselves together? Like render to Ceasar that which is Ceasers. It is not just a jewsih thing. Although yes, MANY of the things they were also told above the ten are also considered sin.

Maybe you should get to know me better? and you would realise why I was hesitant, and not take offense to what i said,


My point was if we are trying to get to heaven by being good, we can never be good enough, even after we are saved. Why you would argue against this I just do not understand.
 
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BarlyGurl

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#94
Not to worry, BarlyGurl, Abiding means no harm.
That's just his way of showing love and friendship. :) I just thought he was revealing the truth about how crop circles really happen! Could you imagine if the word got out!!!:eek:

He IS pretty amazing with those pics, though, right? ;) Well THAT one was a a rare gem indeed... of course it couldn't be me because anyone who knows me ... knows I am more of a flip flop kinda gal ;)

Um...would you mind terribly if I called you BG?:)
OKAY...
 
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BarlyGurl

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#95
Wow! I guess I really upset you that you would be making such accusations against me. I don;t know what else to do other than to keep saying I am sorry if you misunderstood me. You see above someone who takes the communion aspect of John 6 and distorts it into something literal. Which is why I was saying we should be carefull doing such, for the sake of others who were aught different.

As for the ten. There are many commands which are not in the ten which are still considered sin. people want to stick to the ten, and theink because they have never broken the ten they are ok. I call the ten the law for dummies. Because we can not even do these things 100 %, But what about all the other commands God gave? Like do not forsake the assembling of ourselves together? Like render to Ceasar that which is Ceasers. It is not just a jewsih thing. Although yes, MANY of the things they were also told above the ten are also considered sin.

Maybe you should get to know me better? and you would realise why I was hesitant, and not take offense to what i said,


My point was if we are trying to get to heaven by being good, we can never be good enough, even after we are saved. Why you would argue against this I just do not understand.
I am not upset... nor am I making accusations... this IS a forum isn't it??? Never mind eternal... I don't really need to get to know you better..."defensive", " linear" and "rigid" have come to mind.:rolleyes:
 
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Abiding

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#96
:cool:psssst...shes got a sword. I liked the
Barley stocks better...but she may have thought
we thought she was soft...


,,,grabs a q-tip or two.:eek:
...cleans glasses
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#97
I am not upset... nor am I making accusations... this IS a forum isn't it??? Never mind eternal... I don't really need to get to know you better..."defensive", " linear" and "rigid" have come to mind.:rolleyes:
I think we BOTH need to look at ourselves in the mirror. Because I think if we get down to it, we both have been defensive, rigid and linear in our discussion. I for one admit I did not make myself clear. when i first responded and probably caused this myself. so I will take the blame!
 
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Abiding

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#98
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQR69CTJB8E[/video]
 
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unclefester

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#99
James 2:13 ... because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment!

I have always loved this truth :)