Seen a lot of discussion here about salvation. And about one saved or not ect ect, the full extent of grace ect.
just wanted to remind everyone about a few things which are obvious and in the bible:
1. We are not here to see how much sin we can get away with while sneaking into heaven
2. Paul's word in 1 Tim 1:15-16 about how he identifies in Christ
3. The story of the Pharisee who prayed as if justified in the eyes of The Lord while the sinner stood stood far off
i do realize we are under different circumstances than the Pharisee and sinner
- are we under law or grace? Grace. But how shall we boast of this grace ?
- by somehow searching and combing the scripture to reconcile what is eternally written and makes sense in the scheme of eternity while we are living in time and have no real understanding of eternity ? Or ...
- with thanksgiving and praise of God take each day as a blessing and do not try to gain a sense of eternal security when clearly we should be rejoicing in his strength and provision daily knowing He will empower us to run the race to completion
so I guess the question here is simple : why are we so eager to discuss this matter of salvation and hold on to such a debated and complicate doctrine ?
I would venture to guess for many it is a source of self comfort? Or we wish to comfort and teach others with this assurance ?
But our comfort should come from God, not in doctrine or interpretation of even His word. It should come from the fellowship we share with God through prayer, which is communication with Him, reading His word, and testifying of His goodness...
it makes no sense to me why people debate these things so much....
it makes my head hurt and I'd rather step outside, lay in the lawn and just praise him or dance to a song and it fills me with joy and i find I'm so filled I'm often on the brink of laughter or even bursting into laughter just thinking about God
we are all one body working in unity to achieve the prize right? We're all trusting in the faithfulness of Jesus right? So what's all this discussion about? What's the real motive in which we rack out brains and search our bibles to find some sort of explanation for what we already know in our hearts to be true?
Well ill I guess this is a question for you theologians out there ! We certainly all have different callings, so maybe your calling just confuses me cause my calling is different...
my hope is that the positive parts of this post would reach the right ears.
just wanted to remind everyone about a few things which are obvious and in the bible:
1. We are not here to see how much sin we can get away with while sneaking into heaven
2. Paul's word in 1 Tim 1:15-16 about how he identifies in Christ
3. The story of the Pharisee who prayed as if justified in the eyes of The Lord while the sinner stood stood far off
i do realize we are under different circumstances than the Pharisee and sinner
- are we under law or grace? Grace. But how shall we boast of this grace ?
- by somehow searching and combing the scripture to reconcile what is eternally written and makes sense in the scheme of eternity while we are living in time and have no real understanding of eternity ? Or ...
- with thanksgiving and praise of God take each day as a blessing and do not try to gain a sense of eternal security when clearly we should be rejoicing in his strength and provision daily knowing He will empower us to run the race to completion
so I guess the question here is simple : why are we so eager to discuss this matter of salvation and hold on to such a debated and complicate doctrine ?
I would venture to guess for many it is a source of self comfort? Or we wish to comfort and teach others with this assurance ?
But our comfort should come from God, not in doctrine or interpretation of even His word. It should come from the fellowship we share with God through prayer, which is communication with Him, reading His word, and testifying of His goodness...
it makes no sense to me why people debate these things so much....
it makes my head hurt and I'd rather step outside, lay in the lawn and just praise him or dance to a song and it fills me with joy and i find I'm so filled I'm often on the brink of laughter or even bursting into laughter just thinking about God
we are all one body working in unity to achieve the prize right? We're all trusting in the faithfulness of Jesus right? So what's all this discussion about? What's the real motive in which we rack out brains and search our bibles to find some sort of explanation for what we already know in our hearts to be true?
Well ill I guess this is a question for you theologians out there ! We certainly all have different callings, so maybe your calling just confuses me cause my calling is different...
my hope is that the positive parts of this post would reach the right ears.