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Beez

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So I was headed for Goodwill this afternoon, to try to find a chest-of-drawers to use to make a new house for all the feral cats who come here to eat. I accidentally made the wrong turn and pulled into the parking lot of an "adult" literature store. Horrified to be there, then horrified if someone who knows me should see me there, I whipped a U-y, to get out of there.

Okay. My question:

Should I promise to never ever do that again?
Did I lose my salvation?
Should I go to confession?

Do I have to get saved all over again?
Do I only need to get rebaptized?
Should I go back to the old church, because I now know that the Reformed doctrine doesn't work after all?
I saw a laundromat at the other end of the building. Do people
really
think they can get their clothes clean there???

Seriously, though, folks! I was horrified and went flying out of there as fast as I could.

So my real question:

What resources (along with the Bible) would you suggest I use to most quickly get a solid foundation regarding the Reformed doctrines, as I do my best to discard the old beliefs?
(I am looking extra-biblical resources because they convincingly taught us to read their thoughts into the Scriptures, using the very same Scriptures the Reformed use to teach theirs.)
I am thinking maybe the creeds, confessions, or catechisms? If so, should these be read in a particular order?
 

Hizikyah

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I think learning the word well enough to know anything non-Scriptual at first sight.
 

Nehemiah6

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So my real question:

What resources (along with the Bible) would you suggest I use to most quickly get a solid foundation regarding the Reformed doctrines, as I do my best to discard the old beliefs?
(I am looking extra-biblical resources because they convincingly taught us to read their thoughts into the Scriptures, using the very same Scriptures the Reformed use to teach theirs.)
I am thinking maybe the creeds, confessions, or catechisms? If so, should these be read in a particular order?
Beez, it looks like you are wilfully choosing to go into error. What makes you think Reformed Doctrines are closer to the truth than Bible Christianity? You may have noted that the majority of Christians here reject TULIP for good biblical reasons.
 

Beez

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Beez, it looks like you are wilfully choosing to go into error. What makes you think Reformed Doctrines are closer to the truth than Bible Christianity? You may have noted that the majority of Christians here reject TULIP for good biblical reasons.
Thank you for your opinion, Nehemiah. :)
 

Waggles

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Why don't you just read your NT especially the epistles
Pretty straightforward and uncomplicated

If you are going to be fearful about accidently ending up in a carpark
of an adult products shop then how are you going to handle the truth
that you are still driving around in the biggest carpark of them all -
a sinful and wicked world.

As to extra-Biblical resources I personally recommend the Holy Spirit.
Real power when you need him.

Look to be honest all you need is the Holy Spirit.
Go Pentecost
 
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Angela53510

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Very confused with the OP!

You accidentally pulled into a place where there was adult literature and you think that is sin? How so? Your biggest worry wasn’t whether God saw you, but people?

Are you thinking you lost your salvation because that is what Reformed people believe? Or because you have fallen back into Arminianism beliefs? Even Arminians don’t believe you can lose your salvation for making a wrong turn, while driving, no matter where you end up!

Are you talking about going to auricular confession, like a Catholic? Or confessing to God? And if so, what are you confessing, since a wrong turn while driving isn’t a sin? We only need to be baptized once as a confessing adult. (Of course, I am a Baptist, so no infant baptism for me!)

I told you to read RC Sproule’s “What is Reformed Theology?” But read it with a Bible in one hand. There are creeds, but again, being a Baptist, reading the Bible is your most important resource. And pray while you read the Bible, God will lead you.

PS If you are worrying about losing your salvation, you might want to look up “eternal security.” But you don’t have to be Reformed to believe that!
 

Laish

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So I was headed for Goodwill this afternoon, to try to find a chest-of-drawers to use to make a new house for all the feral cats who come here to eat. I accidentally made the wrong turn and pulled into the parking lot of an "adult" literature store. Horrified to be there, then horrified if someone who knows me should see me there, I whipped a U-y, to get out of there.

Okay. My question:

Should I promise to never ever do that again?
Did I lose my salvation?
Should I go to confession?

Do I have to get saved all over again?
Do I only need to get rebaptized?
Should I go back to the old church, because I now know that the Reformed doctrine doesn't work after all?
I saw a laundromat at the other end of the building. Do people
really
think they can get their clothes clean there???

Seriously, though, folks! I was horrified and went flying out of there as fast as I could.

So my real question:

What resources (along with the Bible) would you suggest I use to most quickly get a solid foundation regarding the Reformed doctrines, as I do my best to discard the old beliefs?
(I am looking extra-biblical resources because they convincingly taught us to read their thoughts into the Scriptures, using the very same Scriptures the Reformed use to teach theirs.)
I am thinking maybe the creeds, confessions, or catechisms? If so, should these be read in a particular order?
Hello Beez
Concerning the parking lot, forget about it. It’s a parking lot .
As for your other questions.
Here is my take . Stick to your Bible for now . If you want something extra get a Bible concordance,and lexicons of both the NT and OT . Those tools will help you on word meanings and may give you some insight on background. After you have finished your goal of reading the scriptures then stick you toe in to the resources . Don’t overwhelm your self. I am Reformed . I am not trying to get you to change your beliefs . I just suggest you move one step at a time .
Blessings
Bill
 

MarcR

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So I was headed for Goodwill this afternoon, to try to find a chest-of-drawers to use to make a new house for all the feral cats who come here to eat. I accidentally made the wrong turn and pulled into the parking lot of an "adult" literature store. Horrified to be there, then horrified if someone who knows me should see me there, I whipped a U-y, to get out of there.

Okay. My question:

Should I promise to never ever do that again?
Did I lose my salvation?
Should I go to confession?

Do I have to get saved all over again?
Do I only need to get rebaptized?
Should I go back to the old church, because I now know that the Reformed doctrine doesn't work after all?
I saw a laundromat at the other end of the building. Do people
really
think they can get their clothes clean there???

Seriously, though, folks! I was horrified and went flying out of there as fast as I could.

So my real question:

What resources (along with the Bible) would you suggest I use to most quickly get a solid foundation regarding the Reformed doctrines, as I do my best to discard the old beliefs?
(I am looking extra-biblical resources because they convincingly taught us to read their thoughts into the Scriptures, using the very same Scriptures the Reformed use to teach theirs.)
I am thinking maybe the creeds, confessions, or catechisms? If so, should these be read in a particular order?

Nothing to fret about! If you went there intentionally that would be a different discussion.

Making a wrong turn can happen to anyone and probably occasionally does.

If a person goes there intentionally then the question would be WHY?

If a person went there to pull out someone who didn't belong there there would be NOTHING WRONG.

If a person went there to feed his/her lust; that person should be gently exhorted not to compromise their testimony and the testimony of the church in that way.
 

Beez

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Please forgive me -- the top portion was supposed to be humor. Apparently, a very poor attempt.

The bottom part was serious. :)

Don't worry about it -- just pretend I it's not here . . . .
 

Zmouth

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So I was headed for Goodwill this afternoon, to try to find a chest-of-drawers to use to make a new house for all the feral cats who come here to eat. I accidentally made the wrong turn and pulled into the parking lot of an "adult" literature store. Horrified to be there, then horrified if someone who knows me should see me there, I whipped a U-y, to get out of there.

Okay. My question:

Should I promise to never ever do that again?
Did I lose my salvation?
Should I go to confession?

Do I have to get saved all over again?
Do I only need to get rebaptized?
Should I go back to the old church, because I now know that the Reformed doctrine doesn't work after all?
I saw a laundromat at the other end of the building. Do people
really
think they can get their clothes clean there???

Seriously, though, folks! I was horrified and went flying out of there as fast as I could.

So my real question:

What resources (along with the Bible) would you suggest I use to most quickly get a solid foundation regarding the Reformed doctrines, as I do my best to discard the old beliefs?
(I am looking extra-biblical resources because they convincingly taught us to read their thoughts into the Scriptures, using the very same Scriptures the Reformed use to teach theirs.)
I am thinking maybe the creeds, confessions, or catechisms? If so, should these be read in a particular order?
LOL, did you consider that you might have been being led by the Spirit? ;)

Not sure what horrify you about an 'adult' literature store, after all Jesus said "For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels."
Luke 9:26 After all it wasn't like you were at some pornographic store,
awoazexzaxrmrdwhtjtf.jpg because those who get seen there always have an excuse for why they are seen there....
 

trofimus

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a) Institutes of Calvin
Institutes of the Christian Religion - Christian Classics Ethereal Library

b) Synod of Dordt
https://www.crcna.org/welcome/beliefs/confessions/canons-dort

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If you want to be reformed/calvinist, you need to know this two and you do not need to know anything else. All reformed/calvinistic literature, creeds, catechisms , teachers or pastors will be saying the same thing by their own words or else they would not be reformed.

And you will actually be able to correct many reformed who mixed their beliefs with something else :)
 
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preacher4truth

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Beez,

You may read through this, as it explains Bible teachings in a thorough manner full of Biblical references which support each chapter: The 1689 LBCoF.

Here are a series of videos "What is Reformed Theology" by the recent late R. C. Sproul. He is a joy to listen to:

[video=youtube;T5R9JmJTtOM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5R9JmJTtOM&list=PLwZsVj3A9EoR9bsscZHPgw-4U8IvXJlm6[/video]

For the record: I am Reformed Baptist: We do not practice pedobaptism, we only baptize new believers. Happy New Year!!!
 

blue_ladybug

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Has no idea what TULIP is... :confused:

And no, don't enlighten me.. lol
 

valiant

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Beez, it looks like you are wilfully choosing to go into error. What makes you think Reformed Doctrines are closer to the truth than Bible Christianity?

If you mean by 'reformed' the election and predetermination of God go to the Scriptures which teach it plainly.

John 6.37-40; 2 Thess 2.13-14; Eph 1.3-14; 1 Peter 1.2; etc. It is called 'reformed' because it reformed to the original doctrine.....






You may have noted that the majority of Christians here reject TULIP for good biblical reasons.
I doubt that if tulip is properly interpreted. But I recommend going back to the original.
 

garee

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How did the title reformed referring to certain individuals begin? Is it because the Bible as in sola scriptural did the restoring ?

The creeds, confessions, or catechisms are simply private interpretations as to one's personal commentary of the Bible ...God's interpretation to us.And we are not to seek the approval of men?
 

notuptome

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The five solas that Martin Luther posited are not the TULIP of John Calvin.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
Z

Zi

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The Q&A panels Sproul was apart of, who do you most identify with or agree?
I enjoy watching them.

Anyone who wants to reply may do so
Beez,

You may read through this, as it explains Bible teachings in a thorough manner full of Biblical references which support each chapter: The 1689 LBCoF.

Here are a series of videos "What is Reformed Theology" by the recent late R. C. Sproul. He is a joy to listen to:

[video=youtube;T5R9JmJTtOM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5R9JmJTtOM&list=PLwZsVj3A9EoR9bsscZHPgw-4U8IvXJlm6[/video]

For the record: I am Reformed Baptist: We do not practice pedobaptism, we only baptize new believers. Happy New Year!!!
 

trofimus

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Aug 17, 2015
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How did the title reformed referring to certain individuals begin? Is it because the Bible as in sola scriptural did the restoring ?

The creeds, confessions, or catechisms are simply private interpretations as to one's personal commentary of the Bible ...God's interpretation to us.And we are not to seek the approval of men?
The title "reformed" is actually used wrongly.

Because it began to be used just for one stream in the protestant reformation. While Solas are generally accepted by the whole protestant reformation.

"Calvinism" or "protestants of the Dortrecht synod" would be more precise.

Luterans, Czech brothers, Moravian brothers, Plymouth brothers, Unitas fratrum, arminians etc. are also reformed, but not "reformed".
 
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Very confused with the OP!

You accidentally pulled into a place where there was adult literature and you think that is sin? How so? Your biggest worry wasn’t whether God saw you, but people?

Are you thinking you lost your salvation because that is what Reformed people believe? Or because you have fallen back into Arminianism beliefs? Even Arminians don’t believe you can lose your salvation for making a wrong turn, while driving, no matter where you end up!

Are you talking about going to auricular confession, like a Catholic? Or confessing to God? And if so, what are you confessing, since a wrong turn while driving isn’t a sin? We only need to be baptized once as a confessing adult. (Of course, I am a Baptist, so no infant baptism for me!)

I told you to read RC Sproule’s “What is Reformed Theology?” But read it with a Bible in one hand. There are creeds, but again, being a Baptist, reading the Bible is your most important resource. And pray while you read the Bible, God will lead you.

PS If you are worrying about losing your salvation, you might want to look up “eternal security.” But you don’t have to be Reformed to believe that!
I think Beez just needs some practice in how to express "sarcasm" in a post, and her failed attempt just made a big mess of that OP.
 
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