Evidence Of Divine Inspiration
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Look...your whole premise bro is missing the mark...God said the Holy men of the past were inspired and the writers of the N.T. were inspired 2nd Timothy 3:16-17...He also states by JUDE and REVELATION that the gospel has been ONCE delivered unto the saints and not to add to the word of this prophecy.....when the bible was finished in 95 A.D. (circa) there would be no new inspired gospels, books, Psalms etc......We have the completed mind of Christ....as a matter of fact a bigger picture comes into being when one considers how Alexander the Great conquered the known world, Hellenized it, then God gave the N.T. it the COMMON GREEK language (KOINE) and killed the language.....the BIBLE forever stands as originally written in HEBREW and GREEK...to never be changed and or embellished....EVEN ENGLISH changes and evolves as our words change and take on new meaning....words such as gay, cool etc. prove this point.....but the COMMON GREEK remains the same as it did 1st century AD when it was given....that is the point and bigger picture...the Hebrew used in the OT is the same way.....I am not arguing, being emphatic brother............
Here is a full quote on 2 Peter 1:21
“For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
It says that men who were so “moved” by God (not inspired) in this prophecy of Scriptures, and they “spake” the prophecy of scripture, so this is about speaking and not writing. Paul in 2 Timothy speaks of “ALL Scripture” that is writing not speaking. The writers were only “moved” by the Holy Spirit. The written words of God are given to us by inspiration and writers were not inspired.
Hebrews 1:2
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
This talks more of the crown of revelation which is Christ and not inspiration. Neither this would be a proof text that the writers of the NT were inspired.
“Paul -->ALL scripture is GOD breathed (inspired) and PROFITABLE....2nd Timothy 3:16-17”
Considering this from a non KJv quote still is not a poof text for an inspired writer. It is the scripture…
God bless
“For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
It says that men who were so “moved” by God (not inspired) in this prophecy of Scriptures, and they “spake” the prophecy of scripture, so this is about speaking and not writing. Paul in 2 Timothy speaks of “ALL Scripture” that is writing not speaking. The writers were only “moved” by the Holy Spirit. The written words of God are given to us by inspiration and writers were not inspired.
Hebrews 1:2
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
This talks more of the crown of revelation which is Christ and not inspiration. Neither this would be a proof text that the writers of the NT were inspired.
“Paul -->ALL scripture is GOD breathed (inspired) and PROFITABLE....2nd Timothy 3:16-17”
Considering this from a non KJv quote still is not a poof text for an inspired writer. It is the scripture…
God bless
Yea, this is not about the writers, it’s about what’s written and tis recorded that the superscription written in Hebrew, Greek and Latin. The point is that what has been written in the letters of Latin and or shall I say combination of 3 languages which recorded and translated in Greek, Hebrew and in Latin is still given by inspiration.
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In a sense, I understand what the previous poster was saying about...it not being about writing but about speaking...
When the first men went out from the upper room and began to speak, God caused everyone to hear His word and His Gospel in whatever language they understood. Nothing was written at that time. So it wasn't the written word that caused those men to hear and understand. It's a bit mind-blowing...
When the first men went out from the upper room and began to speak, God caused everyone to hear His word and His Gospel in whatever language they understood. Nothing was written at that time. So it wasn't the written word that caused those men to hear and understand. It's a bit mind-blowing...
I've been discussing this verse for days on another thread. The Hebrew word eben is translated headstone (a grave marker) in the KJV but it's capstone in the NIV and top stone in the NASB. My question is how can we know for sure what stone was being brought forth without divine inspiration of the translators? Does the Hebrew word distinguish between "head" and "cap"?
Zechariah 4:7King James Version (KJV)
7 Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.
Zechariah 4:7New American Standard Bible (NASB)
7 ‘What are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become a plain; and he will bring forth the top stone with shouts of “Grace, grace to it!”’”
אֶבֶןʼeben, eh'-ben; from the root of H1129 through the meaning to build; a stone:— carbuncle, mason, plummet, (chalk-, hail-, head-, sling-) stone(-ny), (divers) weight(-s).
Zechariah 4:7King James Version (KJV)
7 Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.
Zechariah 4:7New American Standard Bible (NASB)
7 ‘What are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become a plain; and he will bring forth the top stone with shouts of “Grace, grace to it!”’”
אֶבֶןʼeben, eh'-ben; from the root of H1129 through the meaning to build; a stone:— carbuncle, mason, plummet, (chalk-, hail-, head-, sling-) stone(-ny), (divers) weight(-s).
Yes, that is true. But I don't think the words they chose to convey the meaning were ever meant to mean: gravestone. They were meant to convey...the stone that is foundational to a construction. Which agrees with many verses about the foundation that we must build on, a stone not hewn by human hands, etc. They convey Jesus as that foundational stone. If I understand that by the linking of many verses that explain it, then I will understand well, don't you think?
The context depends on which bible we read. In the KJV the context is Christ bringing grace to the law. The insurpassable mountian is made a plain... 10 commandments become 2 - love God and love your neighbor. Christ brought forth the tombstone of salvation through the law.
Other translations.... I'm not sure what the context is, it doesn't seem to have any context at all. But the focus is grace to the cap stone.
Other translations.... I'm not sure what the context is, it doesn't seem to have any context at all. But the focus is grace to the cap stone.
Yes, I agree - the focus is grace to the foundation stone. Bring forth the stone with shouts of grace! grace! Even my user name is stunnedbygrace! When people meet that foundation stone that God built everything by and on, they can't help but shout: amazing grace! Worthy is the stone/Lamb to receive all honor and glory!!