Evolution, Big Bang, and the Bible.
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Grey, figured you as an unbeliever. It amazes me why they come here. Searching I guess. Evolution is kinda like a religion. One that disproves God. It takes more faith to believe evolution, than to believe God. I mean come on, some chemicals swirled together and was struck br lighting and an amoeba was formed. Then he decided he wanted to be a fish. Then fish decided he wanted to be a monkey. Then, the monkey decided he wanted to be a neanderthal. Then the neanderthal decided that he wanted to be human. sound like mother goose. Or is it faith.
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I just can't believe you think the bible is 100% true 
I mean I'm sure you believe you believe that, but I can't imagine you've really thought about it, it's so clearly mostly allegory. Do you believe God was defeated by chariots made of iron? That he was worried a tall tower would reach up to him in heaven?
Once you start learning about science and the scientific evidence for the history of life and the Earth and the universe, the Genesis creation account is a obviously literal as God being defeated by chariots made of iron.
And there are many many missing links between all the major families of life, showing them converging into basal forms in the past. Most people would call them transitional forms, and the term 'missing link' is specifically referring to human evolution, from the late 1850's before we'd discovered any. We now have many thousands of specimens of proto humans, mapping out at least a dozen distinct subgroups. You've probably heard of some, like all the kinds of Australopithecus.
We have the fossils you think we'd need to confirm evolution
And we've confirmed it via other methods too, like genetics.
But most importantly, evolution ISN'T atheism!
God AND evolution are true, Genesis just isn't literal
I mean I'm sure you believe you believe that, but I can't imagine you've really thought about it, it's so clearly mostly allegory. Do you believe God was defeated by chariots made of iron? That he was worried a tall tower would reach up to him in heaven?Once you start learning about science and the scientific evidence for the history of life and the Earth and the universe, the Genesis creation account is a obviously literal as God being defeated by chariots made of iron.
And there are many many missing links between all the major families of life, showing them converging into basal forms in the past. Most people would call them transitional forms, and the term 'missing link' is specifically referring to human evolution, from the late 1850's before we'd discovered any. We now have many thousands of specimens of proto humans, mapping out at least a dozen distinct subgroups. You've probably heard of some, like all the kinds of Australopithecus.
We have the fossils you think we'd need to confirm evolution
And we've confirmed it via other methods too, like genetics.
But most importantly, evolution ISN'T atheism!
God AND evolution are true, Genesis just isn't literal
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Evolution being true would NOT disprove God!!!
It's not 'either young-Earth creationism or atheism', that is a false dichotomy. God can exist and evolution be true.
It takes no faith to believe in evolution, there's vast amounts of evidence, more than any one biologist could ever learn in a lifetime.
Evolution doesn't depend on the animal 'wanting' to change. It happens by variations between the mother and each baby in it's litter. You just haven't thought about this, remember, scientists think plants evolve too - it can't depend on them cognitively deciding to adapt if they have no brains.
It's about variation in the reproduction
It's not 'either young-Earth creationism or atheism', that is a false dichotomy. God can exist and evolution be true.
It takes no faith to believe in evolution, there's vast amounts of evidence, more than any one biologist could ever learn in a lifetime.
Evolution doesn't depend on the animal 'wanting' to change. It happens by variations between the mother and each baby in it's litter. You just haven't thought about this, remember, scientists think plants evolve too - it can't depend on them cognitively deciding to adapt if they have no brains.
It's about variation in the reproduction
I just can't believe you think the bible is 100% true I mean I'm sure you believe you believe that, but I can't imagine you've really thought about it, it's so clearly mostly allegory. Do you believe God was defeated by chariots made of iron? That he was worried a tall tower would reach up to him in heaven?
Once you start learning about science and the scientific evidence for the history of life and the Earth and the universe, the Genesis creation account is a obviously literal as God being defeated by chariots made of iron.
And there are many many missing links between all the major families of life, showing them converging into basal forms in the past. Most people would call them transitional forms, and the term 'missing link' is specifically referring to human evolution, from the late 1850's before we'd discovered any. We now have many thousands of specimens of proto humans, mapping out at least a dozen distinct subgroups. You've probably heard of some, like all the kinds of Australopithecus.
We have the fossils you think we'd need to confirm evolution
And we've confirmed it via other methods too, like genetics.
But most importantly, evolution ISN'T atheism!
God AND evolution are true, Genesis just isn't literal
I mean I'm sure you believe you believe that, but I can't imagine you've really thought about it, it's so clearly mostly allegory. Do you believe God was defeated by chariots made of iron? That he was worried a tall tower would reach up to him in heaven?Once you start learning about science and the scientific evidence for the history of life and the Earth and the universe, the Genesis creation account is a obviously literal as God being defeated by chariots made of iron.
And there are many many missing links between all the major families of life, showing them converging into basal forms in the past. Most people would call them transitional forms, and the term 'missing link' is specifically referring to human evolution, from the late 1850's before we'd discovered any. We now have many thousands of specimens of proto humans, mapping out at least a dozen distinct subgroups. You've probably heard of some, like all the kinds of Australopithecus.
We have the fossils you think we'd need to confirm evolution
And we've confirmed it via other methods too, like genetics.
But most importantly, evolution ISN'T atheism!
God AND evolution are true, Genesis just isn't literal
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Scientific models change when new evidence arises because that's the honest thing to do. To promise absolute certainty is to claim to know the future.
Do you claim to know the future? Are you infallible?
You're right, science doesn't provide absolute truth. It stays open to changing it's models, so it only ever gives 99.999% certainty, never 100%. But if you'll only give modern science a chance and get into learning about biology, you'll learn that evolution is one of the things we've confirmed up to 99.999%, like the existence of other galaxies, or of atoms, or germs.
Do you claim to know the future? Are you infallible?
You're right, science doesn't provide absolute truth. It stays open to changing it's models, so it only ever gives 99.999% certainty, never 100%. But if you'll only give modern science a chance and get into learning about biology, you'll learn that evolution is one of the things we've confirmed up to 99.999%, like the existence of other galaxies, or of atoms, or germs.
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I read a New King James Version, but I don't take it as dogmatic divine dictate, but as an inspiration that was interpreted by human minds.
I get lots of my information from my subscription to New Scientist magazine, and science books. I'm not formally educated in science, I'm just scientifically aware.
I get lots of my information from my subscription to New Scientist magazine, and science books. I'm not formally educated in science, I'm just scientifically aware.
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This is Why Every Scientist Accepts Evolution - YouTube
Here's a nice video by a Christian biologist I like, have patience through the boring minute on blastocysts near the beginning, and it really takes off after that.
He describes in great detail several of the many independent sciences that have mapped the family tree and come up with the same results
Here's a nice video by a Christian biologist I like, have patience through the boring minute on blastocysts near the beginning, and it really takes off after that.
He describes in great detail several of the many independent sciences that have mapped the family tree and come up with the same results