Exposing!! The Corrupt Counterfeit (NIV) Bible, Verses That Have Been Tamped With!!

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fredoheaven

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Hi fredoheaven,

It's my understanding of this verse

Psalm 119: 89 <LAMED> For ever, O Lord, your word is fixed in heaven.

Fixed, settled, preserved. Forever.
But why does the psalmist say in heaven? The implication I read in that is that God's word is not fixed settled preserved here on Earth. Not absolutely, not every word.
The same, got you into trouble with the word “settled”’, ever even didn’t make for any consideration of its CONTEXT wherein we can see the biblical meaning of the word “settled” as recorded in the scripture of truth which I hold in my hands. The Revelation of God came to us in different ways, generally speaking, it is derived from the natural things, his creation and in the special ways of God revealing himself. God’s revelation came to mankind through dreams (Gen. 37:5-10), through visions (Daniel 8:1), through Urim and Thummin, through audible voices (1 Sam 3:1-10), through animals (Number 22:28) or through Angels ( Luke 1:26-37) and the “crown of special Revelation” is that when the Word (the Son, our Lord Jesus Christ) came to earth. See John 1:14. The word spoken, heard by means of special revelation which was “established” in heaven was not of course “immobile” being placed in heaven for ever. The prophets of old says “Thus saith the Lord”, they heard the word, have come into vision or even heard from the angels and now they have spoken about that word is no longer being “placed, fixed” for ever in heaven. And when as Jesus on his earthly ministry said “Verily, verily I say unto thee” we count it that he is speaking without reasonable doubt, the word of God on earth with the mankind. Well, it did not end that way, the special revelation is completed in what we call the scripture, that what has been said was written by the Holy prophets and Apostles of God now “preserved” to us which is called the “BIBLE”.

To “settle” your issue.
  • This needs a proper understanding about the word “settled” as used in its context. The word means “established” and not “preserved”. It is not “fixed” i.e. “immobile” or “placed” in heaven for eternity. Of course, the verse, is talking of the unchanging nature of the word of God as it relates to “time” and not of “place”, hence “for ever”. For ever” is simply talking about the time and not certainly not a “place”.
  • You said absolutely, the “word of God” “not every word” is fixed/ settled on EARTH.” The logic seems illogical in the view of the incarnation of Christ and the scriptures written by Holy Prophets of God. They of course preserved to us by now by the faithful copies of copies of the original autographs and through translations that in some way we are quoting it.
  • The “All scripture”, the Holy Scriptures written on EARTH is absolutely "preserved" for ever and I got hold in it my hands, now in English the "BIBLE".
 

CS1

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Here’s Verse comparisons between the (KJV) bible and the faulty (NIV) bible.


(KJV)
Matthew 17:21
However, this kind does not
go out except by prayer
and fasting.

(NIV)
Matthew 17:21
ooopppss!! Zilch!! Whole verse
missing, why???

Here we see an entire verse missing from the NIV, why would you remove an entire verse out of the bible?
Perhaps the writers are trying 2 hide something? Looks very suspicious 2 me!! Bible says in deu 4:2 you
shall not add nor detract from the word of God.

(KJV)
Mark 9:29
And he said unto them, This kind
can come forth by nothing, but
by prayer and fasting.

(NIV)
Mark 9:29
He replied, “This kind can come out only by prayer.

Now this is the time in the bible where the apostles in the bible couldnt cast a demon out of a child
and then jesus came and cast it out of the child and the apostles then said 2 him how come we couldnt
cast the demon out of the child and he said 2 them dis kind comes out by prayer and (fasting). Now in
the (KJV) it also says prayer and (fasting) but in the (NIV) it says prayer only, why is dis?

If you look at all through out history monks, preists and other types of religious people would fast
mortify their flesh and 2 strenghen themselves spirituly so that it wud be easyer for them 2 open
themselves up 2 the spiritual relm and 2 communicate with God more effectivly without any interference
from any demonic forces then a person can perceive Gods word better.

When we fast we de-clutter our bodies and detoxify ourselves and drain away impurities from our systems
which hence frees up our minds and also allows the holy spirit 2 move through us more easily.

Fasting is quite a big part of christianity and walking in the spirit and also quite a big part of
deliverence ministry, jesus also said we must deny our flesh, Matthew 16:24 so why has the (NIV)
taken this out of the verse? its quite an important element. it raises alot of questions?

(KJV)
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to
them which are in Christ Jesus, (who walk
not after the flesh, but after the Spirit).

(NIV)
Romans 8:1
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those
who are in Christ Jesus,

See the difference? wheres the 2nd part of the verse in the (NIV) version? Well lets look at the 1st
part. (There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus). what does it mean
2 be in christ? does it mean 2 believe in him? well even the demons believe and tremble james 2:19.
does it mean 2 follow christ? well 2 follow jesus is 2 deny urself and take up ur cross stated again
in Matthew 16:24. or does it mean 2 walk as christ walked?

well the bible clearly shows that jesus walked in the spirit. Romans 8:8 Those controlled by the
flesh cannot please God. and we know that jesus pleased the father Matthew 17:5 "This is my beloved
Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him".and john 8:29 the father have not left me alone coz
i always do the things dat please him.

therefore we can conclude dat being in christ is 2 be in the spirit as he was, we must worship God
in spirit and in truth john 4:24 also pauls main enphesis through out the NT is to be born again
(circumcised in the heart) and 2 be in the spirit!! gal 5:16.

alot of people are being misslead by a tampering of the word and think their ok with God as long
as they just believe in christ without any form of repentence which is very evident in ur
avarage (so called christian) 2day! hence leaving dem with the idea dat they can also (sin) but
call on jesus and its ok! its because of deception like dis dat many people are dammed and on their
way 2 hell unfortunetly Matthew 7:13

(KJV)
Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and
hearing by the word of God

(NIV)
Romans 10:17
Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message,
and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

here we have 2 completley different paragraphs."faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God"
how does a person get saved? dont they have 2 hear the word!! and wat is the bible? isnt it Gods word?
and isnt jesus christ the word dat became flesh? so dat would make the bible all about christ!! so
why does the (NIV) say " hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ".

so wats dis so called message dat the (NIV) is talking about? i cant find it, i mean there are tones
of messages in the bible anyway, some of dem are prophecys of jesus christ!! some are parables and
some are just some other prophetic talk.

Anyway faith doesnt come by "hearing the message" faith comes by hearing the gospel which is the
(good news) and the whole word of God which is the bible. so once again another twisting of the
scriptures again!!
the New International Version pre 1984 is good.

the only reason why it is not there if you read the foot notes you will se it was added and known as a copyist discrepancies.

the only throng the NIV 1984 is doing is informing the reader of the truth :)
 

Dan_473

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The same, got you into trouble with the word “settled”’, ever even didn’t make for any consideration of its CONTEXT wherein we can see the biblical meaning of the word “settled” as recorded in the scripture of truth which I hold in my hands. The Revelation of God came to us in different ways, generally speaking, it is derived from the natural things, his creation and in the special ways of God revealing himself. God’s revelation came to mankind through dreams (Gen. 37:5-10), through visions (Daniel 8:1), through Urim and Thummin, through audible voices (1 Sam 3:1-10), through animals (Number 22:28) or through Angels ( Luke 1:26-37) and the “crown of special Revelation” is that when the Word (the Son, our Lord Jesus Christ) came to earth. See John 1:14. The word spoken, heard by means of special revelation which was “established” in heaven was not of course “immobile” being placed in heaven for ever. The prophets of old says “Thus saith the Lord”, they heard the word, have come into vision or even heard from the angels and now they have spoken about that word is no longer being “placed, fixed” for ever in heaven. And when as Jesus on his earthly ministry said “Verily, verily I say unto thee” we count it that he is speaking without reasonable doubt, the word of God on earth with the mankind. Well, it did not end that way, the special revelation is completed in what we call the scripture, that what has been said was written by the Holy prophets and Apostles of God now “preserved” to us which is called the “BIBLE”.

To “settle” your issue.
  • This needs a proper understanding about the word “settled” as used in its context. The word means “established” and not “preserved”. It is not “fixed” i.e. “immobile” or “placed” in heaven for eternity. Of course, the verse, is talking of the unchanging nature of the word of God as it relates to “time” and not of “place”, hence “for ever”. For ever” is simply talking about the time and not certainly not a “place”.
  • You said absolutely, the “word of God” “not every word” is fixed/ settled on EARTH.” The logic seems illogical in the view of the incarnation of Christ and the scriptures written by Holy Prophets of God. They of course preserved to us by now by the faithful copies of copies of the original autographs and through translations that in some way we are quoting it.
  • The “All scripture”, the Holy Scriptures written on EARTH is absolutely "preserved" for ever and I got hold in it my hands, now in English the "BIBLE".
Hi fredoheaven,


Lots of interesting points in your post, there!


Let's start with your last one:


'The “All scripture”, the Holy Scriptures written on EARTH is absolutely "preserved" for ever and I got hold in it my hands, now in English the "BIBLE".'


When you talk about the Bible that you hold in your hands, do you mean the KJV? If so, why did you pick that particular translation to be the absolute preserved word of God, every word?


What is the test that you used?