Faith

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timps

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ForestGreenCook said:
The FAITHFULNESS of Christ is the means by which we are eternally delivered. We do not have spiritual faith until after we have been regenerated, by God's grace, and have been given the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, in which spiritual faith is a fruit of. Our spiritual faith, once we have been regenerated, can deliver us many times as we sojourn here on earth. but it is not the means of our eternal salvation (deliverance). Salvation, according to Greek interpretation means "a deliverance".
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Yes that worked @timps it gave me a notification at the top right of the screen.

I'm working on the post, about halfway done but it's going to be a bit scattered ;)
 
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ForestGreenCook said:
The FAITHFULNESS of Christ is the means by which we are eternally delivered. We do not have spiritual faith until after we have been regenerated, by God's grace, and have been given the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, in which spiritual faith is a fruit of. Our spiritual faith, once we have been regenerated, can deliver us many times as we sojourn here on earth. but it is not the means of our eternal salvation (deliverance). Salvation, according to Greek interpretation means "a deliverance".
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Yes there is a clear difference in faith and spiritual faith. I actually like how faith is the same as muscle memory or just how the human body works in general.
Faith like our body begins small and frail but upon practice trial and error the tearing breaking down and rebuilding of our body and if faith was a muscle.

Spiritual faith is the result of salvation and like anything in life it requires practice the building tearing and regenerating until it becomes almost instinctive. I think God knew exactly what he was doing when he made the human body
 
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timps

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Blain said:
Yes there is a clear difference in faith and spiritual faith. I actually like how faith is the same as muscle memory or just how the human body works in general.
Faith like our body begins small and frail but upon practice trial and error the tearing breaking down and rebuilding of our body and if faith was a muscle.

Spiritual faith is the result of salvation and like anything in life it requires practice the building tearing and regenerating until it becomes almost instinctive. I think God knew exactly what he was doing when he made the human body
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timps

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You start with an assumption that there is a thing called faith.
 
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seed_time_harvest

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Mii said:
Yes that worked @timps it gave me a notification at the top right of the screen.

I'm working on the post, about halfway done but it's going to be a bit scattered ;)
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Why do I get the feeling he Is telling us by not writing a response but a blank page that he Is telling us that we should use faith to understand his post without seeing It.😂
 
Blain

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seed_time_harvest said:
Why do I get the feeling he Is telling us by not writing a response but a blank page that he Is telling us that we should use faith to understand his post without seeing It.😂
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I don't know why he is having issues repling it could be a bug or something but hey if your right I did say it was believing in the unseen XD
 
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timps

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You are the one who believes in faith. Where is your evidence? I believe in something because it has a repeated and reliable result and outcome.
 
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It might be easier for you to not press reply and just post something like @ Blain and then type a post as you normally would
 
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ForestGreenCook

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Why do you not respond to a post with a return post, instead of just posting the post given to you again?
 
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I'm not an apologetics expert. If you doubt if the Bible is the inspired Word of God pray for insight, wisdom and discernment and a good teacher would be a good idea.
 
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timps

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@Blain
You are the one who believes in faith. Where is your evidence? I believe in something because it has a repeated and reliable result and outcome.
 
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timps said:
You are the one who believes in faith. Where is your evidence? I believe in something because it has a repeated and reliable result and outcome.
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...... You do realize in this single post you only made my entire point on my first post on this thread right?

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timps said:


What is faith?

To believe in the unseen to have hope where there is none to refuse to bow to uncertainty but it also far more than that.
Faith in itself is not normal, our brains are hardwired to be more prone to reason and logic we have an instinctive nature that helps us to survive we require proof to walk off a ledge reasured that we will be caught upon doing so however faith opposes that and the one who believes walks off the edge without seeing at all any evidence of being caught.
Faith also is not simply in believing in the unseen it also is have believe in a person or yourself, anyone who has ever donee anything great in history had three certain traits- firstly they were in no way normal. Anyone who did anything great was not normal they were seen as odd abnormal or straight out crazy. Second they didn't care what society said or thought of them they walked their own path and dared to do what the norm opposed and third the6y believed in themselves having faith that eventually they would achieve their endeavers they had no real evidence of it but they saw something others didn't a dream a vision and believed in it and themselves.
 
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timps said:
You are the one who believes in faith. Where is your evidence? I believe in something because it has a repeated and reliable result and outcome.
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So do you expect the scientific method that God is real? Have fun with that.
 
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timps

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Mii said:
Err, from what I think you added, was this all for the two posts? Again, not trying to be exasperating.



A believer would most likely tell you that their relationship with God is quite real much like emotions. Whether it is on the same level is probably not accurate.

Consider precognition then. Or even premonitions...those can't be empirically verified AT ALL and yet they exist. There is no proof that they occurred. Or at least the user that experienced them cannot "prove" that they experienced such an event unless they were able to set-up a controlled test and whatever the reason (most likely that no higher spiritual force desires to at present) these type of phenomena are not "proof friendly".
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I think I am figuring out all this works. Let me know if you get this the correct way.
 
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