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Eternal security is a another gospel (FALSE gospel) and counterfeit grace message built upon partial truths and Scripture removed from context
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Eternal security is a another gospel (FALSE gospel) and counterfeit grace message built upon partial truths and Scripture removed from context
So eternal life is NOT eternal?

So we are saved not by grace but by works (Paul said it can be one or the other. but not both)

So we have to earn our salvation. which God calls a gift. which can never be earned.

and finally. So Christ's death on the cross is not sufficient?
 
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I know of a boy who got shot for not denying christ,he is safe with Jesus now n forever
 
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I know of a boy who got shot for not denying christ,he is safe with Jesus now n forever
wow...

Revelation 7

9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!”
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So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. 16 They shall neither hunger anymore nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any heat; 17 for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters.[c] And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”
 
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Salvation by works is a false gospel. it was tought by Babylon at the tower of babel, it was taught in the early church by some of the phariees who were converted, it was taught by Babylon (Papacy) in the dark ages, but the Bible says that Babylon is fallen from truth
 
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with all the false gospels out there to discuss.........the blessed hope is attacked?

My favorite quote from ole J Vernon "I believe in the eternal security of the believer and the eternal insecurity of the makebeliever"
 
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Salvation by works is a false gospel. it was tought by Babylon at the tower of babel, it was taught in the early church by some of the phariees who were converted, it was taught by Babylon (Papacy) in the dark ages, but the Bible says that Babylon is fallen from truth
Works Salvation. you mean Christ + circumcision ect... Yeah that is false
 

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Eternal life is eternal. The problem with eternal security is they do not understand when eternal life begins
it begins the moment you are Justified - NOT GUILTY, FULL AQUITTAL.
 

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Salvation by works is a false gospel. it was tought by Babylon at the tower of babel, it was taught in the early church by some of the phariees who were converted, it was taught by Babylon (Papacy) in the dark ages, but the Bible says that Babylon is fallen from truth
amen Lao....
 
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with all the false gospels out there to discuss.........the blessed hope is attacked?

My favorite quote from ole J Vernon "I believe in the eternal security of the believer and the eternal insecurity of the makebeliever"
yeah.... out of context??? well you can read the whole Bible or the chapter but here are a few verses....

John 3:14-16
New King James Version (NKJV)
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but[a] have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Luke 10
25 And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
26 He said to him, “What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?”
27 So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’[h] and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’”
28 And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.


Mark 10
29 So Jesus answered and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[e] or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel’s, 30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time—houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions—and in the age to come, eternal life

John 4:35-38
New King James Version (NKJV)
35 Do you not say, ‘There are still four months and then comes the harvest’? Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look at the fields, for they are already white for harvest! 36 And he who reaps receives wages, and gathers fruit for eternal life, that both he who sows and he who reaps may rejoice together. 37 For in this the saying is true: ‘One sows and another reaps.’ 38 I sent you to reap that for which you have not labored; others have labored, and you have entered into their labors.
 
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Abiding

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OK! I surly misunderstood. Ill lay low till I do :)
But I didnt say the return of Christ.
 
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Originally Posted by 4runner

Eternal life is eternal. The problem with eternal security is they do not understand when eternal life begins
it begins the moment you are Justified - NOT GUILTY, FULL AQUITTAL.
Eternal life begins when this life is over.....if you have endured until the end.
 
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Eternal life is eternal. The problem with eternal security is they do not understand when eternal life begins
ok clarify for us:

what do you think the term "eternal security" means?

Because to tell you the truth I thought "eternal security" meant having faith that no matter what Jesus had the power to save you if you place your heart and soul and life in His hands and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.

So if that isn't what you mean I would appreciate what exactly you are making a stand against as false gospel.
 
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poor you.
arminianism is a bummer.
Truth sets us free, the bummer would be living is deception, and even worse a sinner living is false security
 

zone

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Truth sets us free, the bummer would be living is deception, and even worse a sinner living is false security
ya....ok.
well, i hope your righteous rags are cleaner than mine.