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It does not matter what I believe only that I believe it . Same goes for you and everyone else.
Not true. At all.

There is one Gospel that saves people.

Gal 1:8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 
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Not true. At all.

There is one Gospel that saves people.

Gal 1:8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
??And your point ??🤔
 
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??And your point ??🤔
You asked me a question I gave you my answer as I Believe it and you tell me not true and quote me scripture . That had nothing to do with the question you asked
 

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??And your point ??🤔
That what you said, "It does not matter what I believe only that I believe it." is not true.

The Pharisees strongly believed what they did, and thought they were doing God's will in having Jesus Christ crucified.

It didn't matter? The Pharisees will be saved anyway? The ones Jesus called children of the devil?
 
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You asked me a question I gave you my answer as I Believe it and you tell me not true and quote me scripture . That had nothing to do with the question you asked
Do you have a cross on your back have you sacerficed your self for me
 
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Do you have a cross on your back have you sacerficed your self for me
You asked me if I believed there was a truth God wants us to know that was asking me What I believe about what God wants I gave you my answer are you looking for a debate of some kind or a mutual exchange of hope blessing and faith
 
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According to the Bible, people become saved when they hear the Gospel and decide to believe it.

Salvation is not God's Lotto system.
This means you saved yourself when you chose to believe. Only those who don't believe must choose to believe, and that's not real faith.
 

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This means you saved yourself when you chose to believe. Only those who don't believe must choose to believe, and that's not real faith.
Nobody can save themselves. God saves people when they choose to believe the Gospel. See Eph 1:13; Acts 16:30-31.
 
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Nobody can save themselves. God saves people when they choose to believe the Gospel. See Eph 1:13; Acts 16:30-31.
If you don't choose will you be saved? = you trust in yourself for salvation, not Christ.
 
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No. See Eph 1:13; Acts 16:30-31.


No. When people choose to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, God saves them.
“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,” Ephesians 1:13 (KJV 1900)

“And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:30–31 (KJV 1900)

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,” Galatians 5:22 (KJV 1900)

This means God alone saves because you must be saved, have the Holy Spirit before you can believe.
 

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“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,” Ephesians 1:13 (KJV 1900)

“And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:30–31 (KJV 1900)

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,” Galatians 5:22 (KJV 1900)

This means God alone saves because you must be saved, have the Holy Spirit before you can believe.
Read Eph 1:13 again. People are sealed with the gift of Holy Spirit after, or when, they believe. And in Acts 16, the jailer asked what he had to do to become saved. Once a person is born again, his faith increases, but Gal 5:22 does not say people do not, or can not, have faith before getting born again.
 
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Read Eph 1:13 again. People are sealed with the gift of Holy Spirit after, or when, they believe. And in Acts 16, the jailer asked what he had to do to become saved. Once a person is born again, his faith increases, but Gal 5:22 does not say people do not, or can not, have faith before getting born again.
But it includes faith itself generated by the Holy Spirit. It means OSAS.
 

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But it includes faith itself generated by the Holy Spirit. It means OSAS.
People must have faith before they receive the Holy Spirit. See Eph 1:13-14.

I believe OSAS is true. Salvation for Christians is permanent. That salvation is acquired when a person chooses to believe the Gospel.
 
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People must have faith before they receive the Holy Spirit. See Eph 1:13-14.

I believe OSAS is true. Salvation for Christians is permanent. That salvation is acquired when a person chooses to believe the Gospel.
“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,” Ephesians 1:13 (KJV 1900)

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” Romans 10:17 (KJV 1900)

“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” 1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV 1900)


It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.” John 6:63–65 (KJV 1900)
 
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Read Eph 1:13 again. People are sealed with the gift of Holy Spirit after, or when, they believe. And in Acts 16, the jailer asked what he had to do to become saved. Once a person is born again, his faith increases, but Gal 5:22 does not say people do not, or can not, have faith before getting born again.

It would seem your understanding of faith is upside down . Who it, as it is written belongs to and what kind of power it works in us must be considered .The it speaks of the one source of faith Christ's in us.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Romans 3 has all the information needed.

No man of his own volition can seek out in order to understand God not seen who lives in us. Working his labor of love called a work of faith with us.

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Romans 3: 1-11

He does the drawing so that then we can seek to understanding

Before a person does become born from above they are reckoned as have "no faith" .not little none .

The faith is that of God it works in those who believe. They have little faith .God has the whole measure which he measure out

In the opening statement in Romans 3 the Holy Spirit acknowledges it (His faith) . He say what if some do not believe God, execute a faith coming from another not seen. That will work make the work of his faith that he words in us without effect? If we have any witness of God its from our Father in heaven .

Romans 3: 3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief (no faith) make the faith of God without effect?

The witness of men is of another kind of faith. Yes Dear; I will be right with you.