Proof?
What does God's knowing Abe have to do with Jews being elect becs Abe obeyed God? Proof for that one?
NKJ Genesis 26:1 There was a famine in the land, besides the first famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went to Abimelech king of the Philistines, in Gerar.
2 Then the LORD appeared to him and said: "Do not go down to Egypt; live in the land of which I shall tell you.
3 "Dwell in this land, and I will be with you and bless you; for to you and your descendants I give all these lands, and I will perform the oath which I swore to Abraham your father.
4 "And I will make your descendants multiply as the stars of heaven; I will give to your descendants all these lands; and in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed;
5 "because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws." (Gen 26:1-5 NKJ)
But knowledge has content. Of course God is omniscient and has always known all before there were things that creatures might know. The question is what was it in God's foreknowledge according to which He chose/elected? I don't think it is revealed.
That is the point of my post. Proginosko means to know before, ie. in the past. God proginosko (before knew) Abraham and made promises to him. He made promises to Abraham and his seed.
35 "To you it was shown, that you might know that the LORD Himself is God; there is none other besides Him.
36 "Out of heaven He let you hear His voice, that He might instruct you; on earth He showed you His great fire, and you heard His words out of the midst of the fire.
37 "And
because He loved your fathers, therefore
He chose their descendants after them; and
He brought you out of Egypt with His Presence, with His mighty power,
38 "driving out from before you nations greater and mightier than you, to bring you in, to give you their land as an inheritance, as it is this day.
39 "Therefore know this day, and consider it in your heart, that the LORD Himself is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other. (Deu 4:35-39 NKJ)
11 "Then the LORD said to me,`Arise, begin your journey before the people,
that they may go in and possess the land which I swore to their fathers to give them.'
12 "And now, Israel, what does the LORD your God require of you, but to fear the LORD your God, to walk in all His ways and to love Him, to serve the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul,
13 "and to keep the commandments of the LORD and His statutes which I command you today for your good?
14 "Indeed heaven and the highest heavens belong to the LORD your God, also the earth with all that is in it.
15
"The LORD delighted only in your fathers, to love them; and
He chose their descendants after them, you above all peoples, as it is this day. (Deu 10:11-15 NKJ)
7
"You are the LORD God, Who chose Abram, And brought him out of Ur of the Chaldeans, And gave him the name Abraham;
8 You found his heart faithful before You, And made a covenant with him To give the land of the Canaanites, The Hittites, the Amorites, The Perizzites, the Jebusites, And the Girgashites--
To give it to his descendants. You have performed Your words, For You are righteous. (Neh 9:7-8 NKJ)
God before knew Abraham.
The scripture is clear that election/foreordination was "according to foreknowledge" and that everyone foreknown was foreordained.
I think you're referring to 1 Peter here. I would submit that firstly, 1 Peter is addressed to Jewish believers, so they were the seed of Abraham. However, I would also submit that the word order has been changed in that verse. I suspect it's to fit the theology of the translators. If you look at the Greek text you find that it does't say elect according to foreknowledge. Here is Young's literal translation.
YLT 1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the
choice sojourners of the dispersion of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2 according to a foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, to obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace be multiplied! (1Pe 1:1-2 YLT)
The word "choice" in verse one is the word "eclectos". The passage says to the elect sojourners not elect according to forknowledge. Here is is the Greek text.
BGT 1 Peter 1:1 Πέτρος ἀπόστολος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ
ἐκλεκτοῖς παρεπιδήμοις διασπορᾶς Πόντου, Γαλατίας, Καππαδοκίας, Ἀσίας καὶ Βιθυνίας,
2 κατὰ πρόγνωσιν θεοῦ πατρὸς ἐν ἁγιασμῷ πνεύματος εἰς ὑπακοὴν καὶ ῥαντισμὸν αἵματος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, χάρις ὑμῖν καὶ εἰρήνη πληθυνθείη. (1Pe 1:1-2 BGT)
Notice elect is in the first verse in both Young's translation and the Greek text.
The time of the "fore-" is before creation of the world.
Eph 1
'he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, to the praise of the glory of his grace,'
The chosing was according to foreknowledge.
This is talking about choosing not foreknowledge. However, this passage is part of a Hebraism. Verses 3-12 are a Hebrew Praise to God. Paul is praising God for what He has done for the Jewish people. He not talking about the Gentiles here. He says that God had foreordained them to adoption. In Romans 9 Paul says that the adoption belongs to the Jews.
I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: {accursed: or, separated}
4
Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; {covenants: or, testaments}
5
Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
(Rom 9:1-5 KJV)
that verse is #5 on my list.