Are you saying that there are not those who claim to be Christians who are wicked?
I find that there are those who purport faith in Christianity who do not live up to the name of Christian. I'm not just talking failings here and there; I am talking about blatant sin.
Does not the law give us the knowledge of sin (Romans 3:20) and is not sin the transgression of the law (1 John 3:4)?
As Christians we are commanded not to sin (1 Corinthians 15:34, Ephesians 4:26).
And it remains that those who are born of God cannot sin (1 John 3:9); and that therefore, it seems to me, that if I am justified (born again) it will result in my being obedient to the law; since sin is the transgression of the law (1 John 3:4).
I am not justified through my law-keeping; but I keep the law because I have been justified.
It is simply important not to put the cart before the horse.
lol no , I was showing you repeatedly what Paul was saying about the law me I see you have skipped over that part ? What did you get from all those scriptures ? Does it sound like he’s explaining we need to keep the law ? Or is he explaining those things won’t help ?
Christians are these folk
“And he said unto them,
Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
that doesn’t have anything to do with Moses law it means we have to believe the gospel and get baptized for remission of sins
did you notice this part ?
“Wherefore then serveth
the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.”
Galatians 3:19
the law was meant to last until Christ was come to preach the gospel which was the promise made to abrahams seed which is Christ Jesus
“Now
to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to
thy seed, which is Christ.”
Galatians 3:16 KJV
That kips over the law did you notice ? It goes from abrahams promise , to the coming of Christ the messiah his seed
Christ is the end of the law for all who accept the gospel and believe
“For
Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”
Romans 10:4 KJV
to be right with God we have to move out from the law of Moses me move into the doctrine of Jesus Christ it’s better ot remits our sins where as the law imputes every transgression for the purpose of making us guilty
“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
Romans 3:19-20 KJV
once you understand your a sinner d sinners are all under the sentance of death that’s all the law can do it leads us to where we need a savior and we have one now the law lasted until Jesus died and rose at that point Gods doctrine is Jesus word forever the law has a function but it’s meant to bring us to Christ that’s all It was meant to do last until the promised seed came
all
I was saying was look at what Paul teaches about the law in every epistle it’s consistent and really super clear once we get that part we can understand this is our law be its life rather than death like the law of Moses
“And
why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Whosoever cometh to me, and
heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and
could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
But he that
heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately
it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
Luke 6:46-49
You see ? We aren’t lawless we have Gods true law the word of Christ , not the one that came because of sin that was until he came , but one that came to offer remission of sins and the righteousness of God the one offering life
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
that is different than this
“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.”
Galatians 3:10-12 KJV
one is faithful one is not it’s based on
Mans ability to be holy and no one has been a holy man wouldn’t need the law but he would keep it perfectly because it wouldn’t even apply to him it’s for sinful people who rebel and don’t repent that’s why they all died even Moses because of his sin
I was just showing you more of what Paul was saying though please don’t reframe it just of you care to read it and your welcome tomskip
Over my words and just check out what Paul was saying look also at the context around what I quoted it makes it even clearer paul Was a Pharisee kept the law he says “faultlessly “ but he then says compared to the gospel it’s as dung to him
his keeping of the law that’s pretty powerful stuff Paul’s the best place to
Learn about the law and it isn’t that it’s for us that he teaches