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I understand completely, being from california it's easy to forget, not everywhere do people see same sex couples holding hands and kissing in public. Long Beach, Orange County and San Diego all have small but noticable neighbor hoods where gays are the majority and straights are the minority and Vegas come on nearly anything goes. They've always been here and much stronger during the Greco/Roman empires, heck they used to have temple prostitutes that collected monies for the temples by turning tricks inside the temples. It's even in the levitical laws not to be one or accept tithes from them. We have agnostic laws now days, gay cops too.
I don't think it's going to change in my life time and I've learned to live amoung it without being part of it. It's just another sign post that society is decline, again.
I don't think it's going to change in my life time and I've learned to live amoung it without being part of it. It's just another sign post that society is decline, again.
What I am saying that without being called by God and given the Holy Spirit, you will always stumble around in the darkness. The Satan you deny exists would have it no other way.
John 6:44 "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."
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What I am saying that without being called by God and given the Holy Spirit, you will always stumble around in the darkness. The Satan you deny exists would have it no other way.
John 6:44 "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."
No, I am not. Here I will give you what I posted in another thread:
Everyone is arguing over which medieval man's doctrine to follow. While they both carried out of the Catholic Church most of the errant doctrines of the harlot. Predestination is real, so is choice. Just because God knows the future doesn't negate our choices. We would be better off to forget about the predestination and get on with life. God is not "trying" to save as many as He can.
Jesus Christ sacrificed His life for the sins of the whole world not just the few He has chosen now. In order to understand scriptures like John 3:16, you will have to look at God's entire plan for salvation. The end result of what He is doing will enlighten all these misunderstood scriptures.
Everyone is arguing over which medieval man's doctrine to follow. While they both carried out of the Catholic Church most of the errant doctrines of the harlot. Predestination is real, so is choice. Just because God knows the future doesn't negate our choices. We would be better off to forget about the predestination and get on with life. God is not "trying" to save as many as He can.
Jesus Christ sacrificed His life for the sins of the whole world not just the few He has chosen now. In order to understand scriptures like John 3:16, you will have to look at God's entire plan for salvation. The end result of what He is doing will enlighten all these misunderstood scriptures.
Yeah, I can see that I'm particularly open-minded about gay people. Homosexuality is not healthy and it's not OK because the Bible says so. There is a difference between a person and their sin. To hate sin doesn't mean to hate people ... and I can't say I "hate" the sin of homosexuality because I don't feel that level of aversion to it ... but I do think it is parasitic. It's not OK ... so I hope that everyone here can be OK with me knowing that it's not OK without me feeling a violent level of aversion to it. "Hate" is a strong word. Hate is what I've felt in my life in other areas and I don't want to feel hatred ever again, but I won't deny that I'm capable of it. To be against something is all I'm OK with, but not hatred.
My kids will likely be adopted, if I ever give birth. That said, I want nothing to do with babies/kids. I have my own personal reasons for not liking kids. Do I want them to be gay? No, of course not. One reason is that they will be hated, but the other reason is that it's a parasitic way of life. Of course I don't condone homosexuality. At the same time, I won't fall prey to hatred either. That isn't helpful if you want to help a gay person. Again, a person is a person and sin is sin.
Many types of people can be charismatic and intelligent. It doesn't mean that I should hate them.
I can't speak on whether or not someone can stop being gay. Christ can change any person's heart. There is no argument against that. All I'm saying is that since I have no personal experience as being a gay person, I can't speak towards that particular experience. Sex isn't even something I really like ... so while this thread may not even be for me ... it is about people who are gay and they exist in the lives of Christians as well. Will my uncle ever not be gay? I have no idea. Hopefully, if Christ puts it in my heart to pray for him to no longer be gay and turn to Christ, then it will reap positive results. Other than that, all I can say is that they are people and they should be seen as people and not their sin. Seeing someone as a person does not mean condoning their sin.
There is a small level of apathy that I have for sexuality because of the fact that I'm not inclined towards it, in any way shape or form, but I do see how homosexuality afflicts people. It's unavoidable. It's a sin, and that's all there is to it. It's not OK.
Wow, I'm not violating His commandments? Hating sin is sometimes correlated with hating the sinner. A lot of Christians do this and it's sad. The OP mentioned hating gays (if I read it correctly). Hopefully me not hating someone who is gay doesn't suddenly make me less of a Christian.
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. . . I mentioned having a gay uncle for the sake of bringing up how he's a person that God created in order to love, despite his sin. It doesn't automatically condone or erase his sin for him to be a creation of God. That's not what I'm eluding to. There are Christians who hate gays to hate gays and then there are Christians who either hate homosexuality or are against it. I don't go so far as to say I "hate" it. "Hate" is a powerful word. Unfortunately (???) I don't feel that strongly. . . . I'm sorry?
My kids will likely be adopted, if I ever give birth. That said, I want nothing to do with babies/kids. I have my own personal reasons for not liking kids. Do I want them to be gay? No, of course not. One reason is that they will be hated, but the other reason is that it's a parasitic way of life. Of course I don't condone homosexuality. At the same time, I won't fall prey to hatred either. That isn't helpful if you want to help a gay person. Again, a person is a person and sin is sin.
Many types of people can be charismatic and intelligent. It doesn't mean that I should hate them.
I can't speak on whether or not someone can stop being gay. Christ can change any person's heart. There is no argument against that. All I'm saying is that since I have no personal experience as being a gay person, I can't speak towards that particular experience. Sex isn't even something I really like ... so while this thread may not even be for me ... it is about people who are gay and they exist in the lives of Christians as well. Will my uncle ever not be gay? I have no idea. Hopefully, if Christ puts it in my heart to pray for him to no longer be gay and turn to Christ, then it will reap positive results. Other than that, all I can say is that they are people and they should be seen as people and not their sin. Seeing someone as a person does not mean condoning their sin.
There is a small level of apathy that I have for sexuality because of the fact that I'm not inclined towards it, in any way shape or form, but I do see how homosexuality afflicts people. It's unavoidable. It's a sin, and that's all there is to it. It's not OK.
Wow, I'm not violating His commandments? Hating sin is sometimes correlated with hating the sinner. A lot of Christians do this and it's sad. The OP mentioned hating gays (if I read it correctly). Hopefully me not hating someone who is gay doesn't suddenly make me less of a Christian.
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. . . I mentioned having a gay uncle for the sake of bringing up how he's a person that God created in order to love, despite his sin. It doesn't automatically condone or erase his sin for him to be a creation of God. That's not what I'm eluding to. There are Christians who hate gays to hate gays and then there are Christians who either hate homosexuality or are against it. I don't go so far as to say I "hate" it. "Hate" is a powerful word. Unfortunately (???) I don't feel that strongly. . . . I'm sorry?
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G-d did not create a gay..."in order to love his sin".....
G-d hates sin...as a Christian we must hate sin. G-d expects us to.
Sorry to us is not appropriate...speak to G-d about your feelings.
Preston, if you carefully read through Candie's post about gays she was right on about not condoning their ways. She just stated her past experiences with hate and that she stays away from that. I agreed with her when I said:
"Amen to this Candie, I do not hate anyone. I don't even necessarily hate the sin they fall into, because they are usually deceived. The only sin I hate is my own."
Sure God hates sin, but he loves the sinner. If it weren't for His love, we would all be just as deceived as the gays are. Maybe not about that particular sin, but I am sure we would be into self-justification about some other sins.
"Amen to this Candie, I do not hate anyone. I don't even necessarily hate the sin they fall into, because they are usually deceived. The only sin I hate is my own."
Sure God hates sin, but he loves the sinner. If it weren't for His love, we would all be just as deceived as the gays are. Maybe not about that particular sin, but I am sure we would be into self-justification about some other sins.
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No, I am not. Here I will give you what I posted in another thread:
Everyone is arguing over which medieval man's doctrine to follow. While they both carried out of the Catholic Church most of the errant doctrines of the harlot. Predestination is real, so is choice. Just because God knows the future doesn't negate our choices. We would be better off to forget about the predestination and get on with life. God is not "trying" to save as many as He can.
Jesus Christ sacrificed His life for the sins of the whole world not just the few He has chosen now. In order to understand scriptures like John 3:16, you will have to look at God's entire plan for salvation. The end result of what He is doing will enlighten all these misunderstood scriptures.
Everyone is arguing over which medieval man's doctrine to follow. While they both carried out of the Catholic Church most of the errant doctrines of the harlot. Predestination is real, so is choice. Just because God knows the future doesn't negate our choices. We would be better off to forget about the predestination and get on with life. God is not "trying" to save as many as He can.
Jesus Christ sacrificed His life for the sins of the whole world not just the few He has chosen now. In order to understand scriptures like John 3:16, you will have to look at God's entire plan for salvation. The end result of what He is doing will enlighten all these misunderstood scriptures.
Based on what you believe, can one know whether they are saved or not?
No, I am not. Here I will give you what I posted in another thread:
Everyone is arguing over which medieval man's doctrine to follow. While they both carried out of the Catholic Church most of the errant doctrines of the harlot. Predestination is real, so is choice. Just because God knows the future doesn't negate our choices. We would be better off to forget about the predestination and get on with life. God is not "trying" to save as many as He can.
Jesus Christ sacrificed His life for the sins of the whole world not just the few He has chosen now. In order to understand scriptures like John 3:16, you will have to look at God's entire plan for salvation. The end result of what He is doing will enlighten all these misunderstood scriptures.
Everyone is arguing over which medieval man's doctrine to follow. While they both carried out of the Catholic Church most of the errant doctrines of the harlot. Predestination is real, so is choice. Just because God knows the future doesn't negate our choices. We would be better off to forget about the predestination and get on with life. God is not "trying" to save as many as He can.
Jesus Christ sacrificed His life for the sins of the whole world not just the few He has chosen now. In order to understand scriptures like John 3:16, you will have to look at God's entire plan for salvation. The end result of what He is doing will enlighten all these misunderstood scriptures.
...."Dangling participles"..... here.....maybe you could detail for us...?
