God rested?
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He set not only the sun but the moon also in the sky to delineate time. two measures, each with a different cycle. two different periodic motions, not just one.
i wouldn't say "there is no time" without their observation or even without their existence. time exists independent of observation or of motion ((if time exists at all)) but human measures of time have them - both of them - as a basis.
i wouldn't say "there is no time" without their observation or even without their existence. time exists independent of observation or of motion ((if time exists at all)) but human measures of time have them - both of them - as a basis.
Yes one can observer and follow these things. But the "week of 7 days"
Who made this? There is nothing we observer above that say's "7 days a week".
How does man come-up with 7 days a week ? , unless God ordained from the start.
On the Seventh day , God rested by putting "His presence" in that day making it Holy.
At the Tower of babel, this dispersed the knowledge of the 7 day week in most languages.
Also God created time itself.
Who made this? There is nothing we observer above that say's "7 days a week".
How does man come-up with 7 days a week ? , unless God ordained from the start.
On the Seventh day , God rested by putting "His presence" in that day making it Holy.
At the Tower of babel, this dispersed the knowledge of the 7 day week in most languages.
Also God created time itself.
DO you believe the Bible is the Complete WORD of GOD...I DO!....Therefore, GOD tells us HE rested on the 7th day and was refreshed. He also called it the Sabbath which in itself means "REST"......
The WORD of GOD is very clear in this verse...DO NOT DOUBT IT! ".......He Rested and was refreshed" Exodus 31:17 (KJV)
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The WORD of GOD is very clear in this verse...DO NOT DOUBT IT! ".......He Rested and was refreshed" Exodus 31:17 (KJV)
Blade
God of course did not need to rest.. But He did so as a symbol of the rest that He would grant to us during the future reign of the Lord Jesus Christ.. This also symbolized the weekly sabbath rest day God would institute into the Law for the Hebrews..
So do not see the rest as being something needed.. See it as teaching by example and showing what was to be in the future for mankind..
So do not see the rest as being something needed.. See it as teaching by example and showing what was to be in the future for mankind..
Out of the 6 days of creation, there's day that God said, "let there be a day". Yes, God divided time into days and weeks and months and years and man divided it into minutes/seconds/nanoseconds. Yes God chose the seventh day because He completed His creation work on the 7th day but,
Time is measurement and subject to a conscious mind that is a result of allowing an observer on earth to SEE the sun. The main reason the sun is up there shining so bright is for the observer on earth to judge progression of events (in their mind) and thereby feel passage of time. I'll prove that:
Time is generally defined as 1. What a clock measures (Physics) & 2. Progression of events (Philosophy)
1. If an observer is put in a very dark room, they won't experience time even though there will be progression of events (like their heart beating). When they come out after a significant amount of time, they won't be able to tell if they have been there for hours or days or weeks.
2. If an observer is put in a rotating room, they won't experience time unless an object is stationery so that they can count how many times they come across it thereby creating a rate and a measurement within their mind.
This is exactly what God made- a very visible stationery object (sun) and an observer on a constantly rotating dwelling (Earth) so that the mind could create a rate from what it observes.
Time just like other measurements, doesn't have sub-particles and we can not say it was created at a certain 'time', it what the mind observes, without the mind, there's no time- it is nothing.
Time is measurement and subject to a conscious mind that is a result of allowing an observer on earth to SEE the sun. The main reason the sun is up there shining so bright is for the observer on earth to judge progression of events (in their mind) and thereby feel passage of time. I'll prove that:
Time is generally defined as 1. What a clock measures (Physics) & 2. Progression of events (Philosophy)
1. If an observer is put in a very dark room, they won't experience time even though there will be progression of events (like their heart beating). When they come out after a significant amount of time, they won't be able to tell if they have been there for hours or days or weeks.
2. If an observer is put in a rotating room, they won't experience time unless an object is stationery so that they can count how many times they come across it thereby creating a rate and a measurement within their mind.
This is exactly what God made- a very visible stationery object (sun) and an observer on a constantly rotating dwelling (Earth) so that the mind could create a rate from what it observes.
Time just like other measurements, doesn't have sub-particles and we can not say it was created at a certain 'time', it what the mind observes, without the mind, there's no time- it is nothing.
the period of the moon ((observed from earth)) is about 29.5 days -- it's close to 7 days ((about 7.3 or 7.4 days)) between each quarter-phase, for example from new moon to first 1/4, and 7 more after that to the full moon.
as Genesis 1:14-19 says, the sun and moon are set in place for marking days and months and years. Hebrews observed new moon festival, and marked the beginnings of months with it - which set the cycle for the sabbaths as well, the whole reason passover isn't on the same julian calendar day each year.
(1) if i count my heartbeats i can sure tell the difference between hours and days and weeks
(2) if the room is rotating i will experience a centrifugal force, and if i can measure the size of the room i can do some math to deduce the rotational velocity - which i can define in terms of my heartbeat
(3) all of our measures of time are with respect to change in relative positions of physical things, yes. it's not necessarily true that time doesn't exist simply because we don't measure it though. when you go to sleep, does time stop? there's a gap in your observation of it, but others are observing it while you don't. God observes all things - by Him they all things have their existence. QM in this sense actually reveals that God, the omniscient observer, must exist for the universe to exist, because substance takes wave or particle form without anyone other than Him observing, and kinetics occur in the absence of any other possible observer.
(2) if the room is rotating i will experience a centrifugal force, and if i can measure the size of the room i can do some math to deduce the rotational velocity - which i can define in terms of my heartbeat
(3) all of our measures of time are with respect to change in relative positions of physical things, yes. it's not necessarily true that time doesn't exist simply because we don't measure it though. when you go to sleep, does time stop? there's a gap in your observation of it, but others are observing it while you don't. God observes all things - by Him they all things have their existence. QM in this sense actually reveals that God, the omniscient observer, must exist for the universe to exist, because substance takes wave or particle form without anyone other than Him observing, and kinetics occur in the absence of any other possible observer.
it turns out to have been a very precise and apparently perfectly calculated 'bang' to have resulted in exactly this universe with exactly these fundamental constants, like mass of electron and speed of light, which in turn eventually form basis for how humans measure kilogram and volume.
as though it were pre-planned in some way, though it looks like an accident until very closely scrutinized
"subject to a mind" -- yes, His mind, which alone knows and observes all things. we're eventually arriving at that observational & theoretical science proves Colossians 1:17, that He originated the universe, upholds it, and all things have their substance and being in Him!
as though it were pre-planned in some way, though it looks like an accident until very closely scrutinized
"subject to a mind" -- yes, His mind, which alone knows and observes all things. we're eventually arriving at that observational & theoretical science proves Colossians 1:17, that He originated the universe, upholds it, and all things have their substance and being in Him!
For how long can you count your heart beat? And again, time is the interpretation of the mind- when you set your mind in counting your heartbeat, you'll experience passage of time.
It's a fact- if you are put in a dark room, you'll not experience time and when you sleep (have your mind switch off) a couple of times
We are on an earth that rotates very very fast, but we don’t feel it because everything moves at the same speed. In a speeding vehicle/train you won’t feel the inertia because you are also moving in the same speed. In fact it is the mind that interprets the speed at which we move based on the relative surroundings otherwise if the surrounding is also moving at the same speed then we are actually still (motionless). We will only experience centrifugal or inertia if the acceleration force becomes greater than gravity.
When one goes to sleep, time goes on because when they wake up they experience the change in events and also thanks to the clock, they can tell but when they die and are buried 6ft under, their time on earth is done not because their bones are not going to decay for years, but because their mind is no more on earth. Truly truly i tell you, the sun that you see above is for numbering your days on earth.
All existence is within God because God is a mind (spirit).
All immaterial things that make up physical conditions were not created at any time, these include; darkness/temperature/space/pressure/time/space. They are nothing outside a conscious mind but God being a conscious mind they have always been within Him. Man being a conscious mind tries to make sense of them by measuring- all measurements are a construct of the mind.
One question though, Does a liter exist or is it a measurement that only the mind knows its meaning?
The Eternal One is weary because of our sins:
Based on this, when we are deny ourselves, and take up our cross daily, and follow Jesus, He rests.
- "Thou hast not brought me the small cattle of thy burnt offerings; neither hast thou honoured me with thy sacrifices. I have not caused thee to serve with an offering, nor wearied thee with incense. Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities." (Isa 43.23,24).
Based on this, when we are deny ourselves, and take up our cross daily, and follow Jesus, He rests.
it turns out to have been a very precise and apparently perfectly calculated 'bang' to have resulted in exactly this universe with exactly these fundamental constants, like mass of electron and speed of light, which in turn eventually form basis for how humans measure kilogram and volume.
as though it were pre-planned in some way, though it looks like an accident until very closely scrutinized
"subject to a mind" -- yes, His mind, which alone knows and observes all things. we're eventually arriving at that observational & theoretical science proves Colossians 1:17, that He originated the universe, upholds it, and all things have their substance and being in Him!
as though it were pre-planned in some way, though it looks like an accident until very closely scrutinized
"subject to a mind" -- yes, His mind, which alone knows and observes all things. we're eventually arriving at that observational & theoretical science proves Colossians 1:17, that He originated the universe, upholds it, and all things have their substance and being in Him!
Physical science has the wrong foundation and so everything in it that is build on this foundation is a lie which people have blindly called the truth.
Let’s consider Light.
Does light even travel? I say NO, it doesn’t. To me, light is a field (always there) in which darkness is overcome. Light and darkness are of the same substance but on different ends of a spectrum.
For them to say that light travels, they first have to conclude/assume that darkness is nothing and usually nothing can not travel so darkness doesn’t travel.
I say NO. Darkness is something (even though immaterial), our mind experiences it and the body part responsible for this is the eye.
In the past you were told that we can see because light travels from an object to the eye, but I tell you nothing travels, light is a field and objects within this field create their own field which interacts with the field of our vision/eye making it possible for us to see (just my theory).
I have some questions sir:
- Does darkness exist? If it does, did also come out of the big bang?
- When we say it is dark, is it because we saw darkness or we didn’t see it because no light travelled in our eye?
- If we say it is dark because we can’t see, how can a negative attestation be proof of existence of something? In a court if a witness says they did not see him do it therefore he is the one who did it, will it be acceptable?
- If the eye is the body part that is used to detect darkness, does it have 2 functions – to see and not to see?
- Proof of darkness is- it is dark because you can’t see- consider a blind person (who doesn’t even have eyes), if they say darkness exists because they can’t see; what would be the difference between their attestation and your attestation (one who uses the eye to detect darkness). Are they the same?
I agree. 'Before' and 'After' is what the mind also differentiates to create the experience of time. A drunkard in his moment might not create this difference because his mind is interfered with therefore won't experience time even if they have a watch and events around are progressing.
All i'm against is the idea that time is an actual thing whose existence is independent, that came from big bang. Saying this, limits us to a lie. Can we not not say 'before' big bang coz apparently the before and after all came out of the bang?
Once we say before big bang, we are already implying there was time before big bang.
All i'm against is the idea that time is an actual thing whose existence is independent, that came from big bang. Saying this, limits us to a lie. Can we not not say 'before' big bang coz apparently the before and after all came out of the bang?
Once we say before big bang, we are already implying there was time before big bang.
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Can you guys explain below verse for me!
It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.
Exodus 31:17
How can God rest?
God rested from all that he created but continues to work it out in us, with us to give rest. This is every time a person hears his word and does not harden their heart. Hebrews 4 which defines the purpose says as long as today is today .Or as long as the sun and the moon remain as time keepers.
The word Sabbath simply mean rest. When we make it into a time sensitive as in most translation we loss the values of entering his rest daily. His rest/Sabbath in not limited to one day a week
Hebrews 4 King James Version (KJV)
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
How do we labor to enter His rest other than when we hear his voice we harden not our new hearts?