God The Father

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p_rehbein

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Why is the Son called the Son when the term Son means to be born having a beginning, or else the term Son has no meaning.

But the Bible says that Jesus if from everlasting meaning He has no beginning, and God said there was no God formed before Him, and there shall be no God formed after Him, and Jesus is God manifest in the flesh.

Jesus is God that has no beginning, but Son means to be born, so there cannot be a God the Son, and the Bible says that the Son was made according to the flesh, and made of a woman, made under the law, and Jesus is the beginning of creation, although He was not born until 4000 years later.

Because the Son is the man Christ Jesus, and there is no God the Son.

The Bible says but to us there is but one God, the Father, and one God, the Father, who is above all, and through you all, and in you all.

And the Son shall be called the everlasting Father, for there is only one deity, the Father, who is a Holy Spirit, and the Father said He will reveal a new name to the Jews, and speak to them, which Jesus told Philip if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father, and the words that I speak are not My own, but the Father that dwells in Me, He does the works.

And Jesus was conceived by the Spirit, so why would the third person of a trinity be manifest in flesh, and not God the Son manifest in flesh.

One God who is a Holy Spirit, and Father is a title for God, and the Son is the man Christ Jesus.

God said thou shalt have no other gods before Me.

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him.

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The Bible only attributes the Father as being God, which the Jews knew the Father was a Holy Spirit.

The trinity is a pagan concept, and Jesus is the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, for Jesus said He came in His Father's name, and the Son inherited the name from the Father, and the Holy Ghost comes in the name of Jesus, and Jesus created all things, came in flesh, and dwells in the saints, for He said the Spirit is the Comforter, and He will not leave the disciples comfortless, but will come to them.

Jesus told the disciples when He resurrects to heaven to not ask Him anything, but ask the Father and He will do it, but in another scripture Jesus said when He resurrects to heaven to ask Him and He will do it.

They do not ask the man Christ Jesus, but they ask the Father, and there is only one God, the Father.

Father and Son, is God and man,
You are either doing a fanciful tapdance around denying the Deity of Christ, or something........hard to follow all the twists and turns in your comment.......lesse if we can kinda simplify it a wee bit?

God.......Christ.......Holy Spirit

Holy Trinity

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit

God OF man, God AS man, God WITHIN man

Yes...........?

No..........?

there..............
 

Nehemiah6

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Because the Son is the man Christ Jesus, and there is no God the Son.
I believe you are somewhat confused about the eternal Sonship of Christ. And you are denying what Scripture affirms. Not a good thing for a Christian.

GOD THE WORD = GOD THE SON = THE SON OF GOD = THE SON OF MAN = THE LORD JESUS CHRIST = GOD MANIFEST IN THE FLESH = THE LAMB OF GOD

The reason why Jesus is called *the only begotten* Son of God is because MONOGENES means *uniquely begotten*. Since there is no mother involved, it represents a unique Father-Son relationship from eternity past. Jesus did not become the only begotten Son when He was supernaturally conceived and born as the child Jesus. That was only His incarnation. But the Word (the Son) existed with God from eternity.
 

Noblemen

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I know, today is your 'silly' day.

I can't help it if you reject the Bible and Luke 3:38 . . . it's on you.
Wow unreal indoctrination, no discussion just pop off at anything that doesn't fit the pet doctrines, typical answer of mainline religion
 
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Wow unreal indoctrination, no discussion just pop off at anything that doesn't fit the pet doctrines, typical answer of mainline religion
Yea, that's pretty much it . . . I know what and in Whom I believe in and I'm not in the market for a new doctrine.