God's 7000 Year Plan for Mankind - And a Timeline!

[Omegatime]

You've got it wrong. The covenant was made when Abraham was 75 years old, and 430 is the time period between that covenant and the law which Moses received on Mount Sinai. Nowhere does it say that it starts to count from Abraham's death. Besides, how could it be more than 100 years apart from the other count, that he begot Isaac at 100 and his descendants in foreign land - Egypt and Canaan - for 400 years?

Yes the Othodox jews would agree with you saying the covenant was made when Abraham was 75 years old. Now the real funny part is they use the same Masorectic texts we do in our english versions but they certainly don't believe they were in Egypt for 430 years. They say 215 years in Cannan and 215 years in Egypt. Dont really understand what they are trying to hide

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Yes the Othodox jews would agree with you saying the covenant was made when Abraham was 75 years old. Now the real funny part is they use the same Masorectic texts we do in our english versions but they certainly don't believe they were in Egypt for 430 years. They say 215 years in Cannan and 215 years in Egypt. Dont really understand what they are trying to hide

Don't point finger at me or "Othordox Jews". You said it's both "Cannan and Egypt" in Septuagint, and so does my bible commentary, and that is obviously proven in the rest of Genesis story. I don't know why you have a problem with that. The only possible problem I spotted is that Cainan is missing between Arphaxad and Salah in Gen 11:12-13 in that genealogy, that may have caused about 60 missing years.

 

[p_rehbein]

So far this is the most convincing theory about the time of the second coming, it's solidly based on the Scripture and perfectly consistent with God's six-one operation pattern.

I read this far, then stopped. I seem to remember Jesus said:

NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY! pretty sure that includes the time, date, or general targeted belief........

NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY!

yeah, I'm going with Jesus onn thissin'

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

I read this far, then stopped. I seem to remember Jesus said:

NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY! pretty sure that includes the time, date, or general targeted belief........

NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY!

yeah, I'm going with Jesus onn thissin'

Didn't I make the disclaimer at the very beginning? No man knows the day because we're not using God's calendar. Which day is the Day of Atonement before a Jubilee year? No one knows. Any effort to pin that day on the calendar is futile.

Besides, most people don't understand this saying. This is a call for a sense of urgency, Jesus never wanted us to be ignorant and clueless of his coming, otherwise why would he bother to give this longest speech in the entire gospel? He said that because
all the church will be spiritually asleep like a baby even though they SHOULD'VE been ready and expecting as the DAY approaches, not because they have absolutely no idea when that is at all like fools!

 

[Journeyman]

Yeah, the 7th day is the millennial sabbath. And that one missing year doesn't matter. You see, by the definition of Jubilee cycle in Lev. 25, one cycle is always counted from Tishri to Tishri on civil calendar, which is in fall season. It's also a common belief that Jesus will return in a Tishri to fulfill the three fall feasts. But if the first Year of Man is counted from Nissan, the first month, than there's half a year between Nissan and Tishri, and that's the one "missing" year.

We should understand the feast days in Christ now. Remembering him for all he has done (blow the horn), being forgiven by him, being aflicted ourselves (atonement) and living in temporary shelters (tabernacles) as we gather in the harvest. They're all current realities in Christ.

Which is another reason why the saints reign with Christ Jesus in Heaven in the 7th mill.

Dominion belongs to Gods' people now, but as our King showed, we govern by the attributes of his Spirit.

 

[Nehemiah6]

We don't know if it's already been over 6000 years or not, because as I pointed out, the calendar system is different, besides the final 2000 years start to count from the resurrection, not the nativity, so the final millennium starts from at least 2030. This timeline is just a rough estimate, the Day of the Lord could be anywhere between 2028-2042.

This is all speculation. Bible chronology is embedded in the Bible and we do not need to look at any calendar system. You should study Martin Anstey's The Chronology of the Old Testament. He has even adjusted for Ptolemy's error.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

We should understand the feast days in Christ now. Remembering him for all he has done (blow the horn), being forgiven by him, being aflicted ourselves (atonement) and living in temporary shelters (tabernacles) as we gather in the harvest. They're all current realities in Christ.

No we shouldn't. Crucifixion on Passover, burial on Unleavened Bread, resurrection on First Fruit, birth of the Church on Pentecost, all took place LITERALLY on these feasts. Why should the rest three be symbolical?

This is all speculation. Bible chronology is embedded in the Bible and we do not need to look at any calendar system. You should study Martin Anstey's The Chronology of the Old Testament. He has even adjusted for Ptolemy's error.

This is just a rough ESTIMATE, man. No one knows "The Day or the Hour". Jesus didn't say season or decade. Read the parable of the wicked servant, he obviously had some idea of the schedule of the master's arrival.

 

[Chester]

Well, the best dividing line is the word of God itself. If it is not found clearly in the word by at least two or three witnesses, then better to shelve it.

And so the thread goes on assuming things not clearly taught in the Word - it may be interesting and informative, but it is of a much different nature than the inspired Word of God.

 

[soberxp]

I agree with you.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

In summary, 7 days in the creation week foreshadow 7000 years of human history, 4000 years from Adam to Christ, 2000 years from Christ's ministry to the second coming, and 1000 years of millennial kingdom.

Yeah, the 7th day is the millennial sabbath.

Pretty much agree with these parts ^ (as I mentioned in a previous post the other day).

All old testament saints knew what Martha also knew well, that they would be "resurrected IN the LAST DAY" (John 11:24; see also Job19:25-27... and Dan12:13 where "at the END of the days [the 'days' referred to in THAT CONTEXT]," essentially brings one to [see it is speaking of] the END of the TRIB yrs, aka the START of the EARTHLY MK age, i.e. "THE LAST DAY" or 7th Millennium). That is when all OT saints will be "RESURRECTED" (which is defined as "to stand again [on the earth, bodily--after having died]"... they will be "like the angels" in that they will not marry nor reproduce / bear children [only the "still-living" saints (at the time) who enter the MK age in their mortal bodies will have that capacity... as will their children, grandchildren, etc...])


It seems that Paul was given the task of disclosing something that hadn't yet been disclosed ("Behold, I SHOW *you* A MYSTERY..."), which has to do with the fact that, as far as in the "days of creation" go, Genesis 2:22 says (re: the events of the SIXTH day), "and [He] brought her UNTO THE MAN"... which reminds me of the following quote:



[paragraph excerpt from "The Coming Kingdom: An Outline of the Revelation" by G V Wigram]

"The first Adam in Eden pointed like a finger post to Him that was to come, was a type of Him as the last Adam, and yet He who was the last Adam existed before the first, even in eternity. In the garden of Eden, Adam was created first, and out of a crooked rib taken from his side while he slept Eve was formed.' In its separation from the human body, such a thing would be in itself most unsightly, yet God built it up into Eve as a companion and helpmeet for him. The last Adam will have a bride, the confidante of His love, the church formed by the Holy Spirit a new creation in Christ Jesus."

--GV Wigram, Bible Truth Publishers



Genesis 2 -

21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep, and while he slept, He took one of the man’s ribs and closed up the area with flesh. 22 And from the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man, He made a woman and brought her to him. 23 And the man said:

“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for out of man she was taken.”




Luke 24:39 - [Jesus, on His Resurrection Day... later that same evening, after the Jn20:17 thing]

"See My hands and My feet, that I am He. Touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see Me having."

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Pretty much agree with these parts ^ (as I mentioned in a previous post the other day).

All old testament saints knew what Martha also knew well, that they would be "resurrected IN the LAST DAY" (John 11:24; see also Job19:25-27... and Dan12:13 where "at the END of the days [the 'days' referred to in THAT CONTEXT]," essentially brings one to [see it is speaking of] the END of the TRIB yrs, aka the START of the EARTHLY MK age, i.e. "THE LAST DAY" or 7th Millennium). That is when all OT saints will be "RESURRECTED" (which is defined as "to stand again [on the earth, bodily--after having died]"... they will be "like the angels" in that they will not marry nor reproduce / bear children [only the "still-living" saints (at the time) who enter the MK age in their mortal bodies will have that capacity... as will their children, grandchildren, etc...])


It seems that Paul was given the task of disclosing something that hadn't yet been disclosed ("Behold, I SHOW *you* A MYSTERY..."), which has to do with the fact that, as far as in the "days of creation" go, Genesis 2:22 says (re: the events of the SIXTH day), "and [He] brought her UNTO THE MAN"... which reminds me of the following quote:



[paragraph excerpt from "The Coming Kingdom: An Outline of the Revelation" by G V Wigram]

"The first Adam in Eden pointed like a finger post to Him that was to come, was a type of Him as the last Adam, and yet He who was the last Adam existed before the first, even in eternity. In the garden of Eden, Adam was created first, and out of a crooked rib taken from his side while he slept Eve was formed.' In its separation from the human body, such a thing would be in itself most unsightly, yet God built it up into Eve as a companion and helpmeet for him. The last Adam will have a bride, the confidante of His love, the church formed by the Holy Spirit a new creation in Christ Jesus."

--GV Wigram, Bible Truth Publishers



Genesis 2 -

21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep, and while he slept, He took one of the man’s ribs and closed up the area with flesh. 22 And from the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man, He made a woman and brought her to him. 23 And the man said:

“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for out of man she was taken.”




Luke 24:39 - [Jesus, on His Resurrection Day... later that same evening, after the Jn20:17 thing]

"See My hands and My feet, that I am He. Touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see Me having."

The millennial kingdom is not New Heaven and New Earth, though. According to pastor Brandon of Roch Harbor church, even in this literal utopia of everlasting peace and prosperity, there are still some bad apples seeking to rebel like those grumpy Israelites in the wilderness, and at the end they will join Satan when Satan is released.

Also, this Millennial-Day theory is more just a timeline, it shows a clear 6-1 PATTERN. Throughout the entire Bible, a lot of things can be fit into this pattern, and some major events is each millennium can be traced back to the corresponding day in the creation week. Follow this pattern, a lot of foggy mysterious will suddenly become clear.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

And so the thread goes on assuming things not clearly taught in the Word - it may be interesting and informative, but it is of a much different nature than the inspired Word of God.

Psalms 90:4For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

On top of these, the most convincing one is as I said in the OP, God warned Adam that the DAY you eat of it you shall SURELY die. So why didn’t he die on that day? Either God was lying or Satan was. In Gen 5 it says that Adam died at 930 in the first millennium, that is the DAY. There you have it, three witnesses.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

According to pastor Brandon of Roch Harbor church, even in this literal utopia of everlasting peace and prosperity, there are still some bad apples seeking to rebel like those grumpy Israelites in the wilderness, and at the end they will join Satan when Satan is released.

Right. And in my view, the "still-living saints" who ENTER the earthly MK age (in mortal bodies) will reproduce / bear children, who are not "BORN automatically RIGHTEOUS"... and, by the end of the MK age, humans will [be, as Rev20:8 says of them] "the number of whom are as the sand of the sea" (lotsa ppl).


So, yeah, I'm not saying there won't be mortals in the MK age ("the seventh millennium" we're discussing here); we likely differ as to who it is that will ENTER the MK age (in mortal bodies); Matthew 25:31-34 and context is just one of MANY passages showing this (same as Matthew 13:24,30,39,40,49-50), as well as Dan12:12 (along with about 8 other "BLESSED" passages speaking to this point)

[as I see it, "saints" ONLY--no "unsaved" persons will ENTER the MK age as it commences upon His "RETURN" to the earth]

 

[Journeyman]

No we shouldn't. Crucifixion on Passover, burial on Unleavened Bread, resurrection on First Fruit, birth of the Church on Pentecost, all took place LITERALLY on these feasts. Why should the rest three be symbolical?

Theyre not just symbolic, but very personal to each of us,

And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them,Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mk.8:34

Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 1Cor.5:8

Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures. Jas.1:18

We're being made in his image. It's when, but also how.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

This idea is held by many people, and it is based on the Bible verse which says that God regards a thousand years as one day, and vice versa. If we accept the fact that the age of the earth is slightly over 6,000 years, then we should have already been within the final Millennium. Which would mean perfect peace and righteousness on earth right now. Since we see the exact opposite all around us, we cannot really apply this theory to God's time frame.

I disagree that it is "based on" only that text (and thus, that this would be the result of that idea)... because Hosea 5:14-6:3's "after TWO DAYS" and "IN the THIRD DAY" (and pertaining to "Israel" and particularly Israel's "future" ) are factored (per that text) from the point in time of His ASCENSION... so "2 days [/2 thousand years]" would be factored from 32ad (when He ascended)... and that point has not quite yet arrived.






[and, as you know, would be referring to the start of the earthly MK age, not "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]" which would be even PRIOR TO that point (by SEVEN YEARS)]

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Theyre not just symbolic, but very personal to each of us,

And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them,Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mk.8:34

Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 1Cor.5:8

Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures. Jas.1:18

We're being made in his image. It's when, but also how.

“We're being made in his image. It's when, but also how”

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”

‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:22-24‬ ‭

“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭12:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:9-10, 12-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Edify]

Just puttong a monkey wrench in the middle of this dicussion.
How many know that most OT prophecies were told under the order of a Jewish calendar?
If we went by a Jewish calandar, I wonder what millenium we'd be in currently?
BTW, I don't believe in numerology.

 

[ChristianSubMissionary]

And so the thread goes on assuming things not clearly taught in the Word - it may be interesting and informative, but it is of a much different nature than the inspired Word of God.

Yet, I provided all the scriptures in my links and images. Start there. Any questions, ask me. Be glad to show you from scripture.

 

[ChristianSubMissionary]

We should understand the feast days in Christ now. Remembering him for all he has done (blow the horn), being forgiven by him, being aflicted ourselves (atonement) and living in temporary shelters (tabernacles) as we gather in the harvest. They're all current realities in Christ.

Unfortunately, no, as that Catholic teaching, would violate the type, and season, timings and items (like Ark in Heaven) and beings (like scapegoat and high priest). The Feasts of Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles could not, and did not take place at Calvary, neither at Pentecost. There are time prophecies linked to the last 3 feasts in scripture as my links and images detail. God is the God of order, not of confusion. God set the seasons and times specifically, though there is that false system that thinks to change times and laws. If you would like details, let me know.

 

[ChristianSubMissionary]

Dominion belongs to Gods' people now, but as our King showed, we govern by the attributes of his Spirit.

Unfortunately, no, as that Catholic teaching violates what scripture says in several places that "and shall reign" (future tense, 1000 years heaven), & "we shall reign" (future tense, after 1000 years in heaven coming back to earth, to be remade new and reign for ever and ever). I have the texts if you need. Jesus said that his kingdom is not of this world. We are Kings and Priests, but Jesus holds our crowns until that day of his return.

You might consider this study on Dominion:

https://archive.org/details/dominion_202005

https://archive.org/details/dominion_202006

https://www.bitchute.com/video/zGKREMDKqEM9/