GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

Stunnedbygrace · Mar 5, 2018

Well, I got my answer from the question I asked in another thread!
My question was regarding romans 8.
The law is weak BECAUSE OF the flesh, it says.
So I asked, how exactly does what we know is spiritual and good become or be made weak because of flesh?

My flesh will die one day, because of sin. Its a condemned building.
Who demands that a condemned building be gotten up to code? It is condemned, to be torn down. Why rush about madly, trying to get up to code what will be destroyed?

So the law is spiritual. It is not FOR getting the building up to code. The building is already to be torn down.

Am I making sense to anyone?

PS · Mar 5, 2018

lightbearer said:

But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
(Mat 22:34-40 KJV)

Anything missing?

Are you going to murder; rape, steal, worship false god's etc. if you keep those two commandments?

Jackson123 · Mar 5, 2018

lightbearer said:

[h=1]Exodus 35:3 King James Version (KJV)[/h]3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

where say that in this

Dan_473 · Mar 5, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

amen to BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's Word!

PTL!

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Jackson123 · Mar 5, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

Hi Jackson, where does it say gas stove and driving a car is breaking God's LAW in God's Word?

If you are using a gas stove (or electric) to do cooking or working (Ex 35:1-3) I agree as this can be done on the preparation day.

All your other applications are simply made up and not biblical as we are living in the NEW Covanant not the OLD Covenant in Israel.

Good luck trying justify breaking God's 4th commandment and committing sin come judgement day Jackson. God's Word does indeed disagree with you.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
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In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

So simple logic you do not understand dear

let me ask you question,

[h=1]Exodus 35:3 King James Version (KJV)[/h]3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

you agree this verse or not?

Kindle fire is to do something that produce fire, do you understand?

if not let me know, I will try to explain more dear

Dan_473 · Mar 5, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

more details on Gal 4:4

looks to me that
Born Under the law refers to Jesus

because the verb Born is masculine

Galatians 4:4 Interlinear: and when the fulness of time did come, God sent forth His Son, come of a woman, come under law,

see those letters
V-APM-AMS?

Born is masculine in this verse

Greek Parsing: V-APM-AMS -- Verb - Aorist Participle Middle - Accusative Masculine Singular

Dan_473 · Mar 5, 2018

joefizz said:

true

that's why To them of old is probably a better way to translate it

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Dan_473 · Mar 5, 2018

PS said:

good point

looks like God wanted the law followed literally, physically by the Israelites (who lived in a warm climate)
but not by us today

Dan_473 · Mar 5, 2018

lightbearer said:

Here are how the Ancient Aramaic and Latin are translated.

You have heard that it was said to the ancients, 'Do not murder, and whoever murders is condemned to judgment.'
(Mat 5:21 FCAB [Aramaic])

You have heard that it was said to them of old: Thou shalt not kill. And whosoever shall kill, shall be in danger of the judgment.
(Mat 5:21 DRB [Latin])

These being prior to the KJV; should we use their witness in how we understand Matt 5:21?

And also an inscription was written over Him, in Greek and Latin and Hebrew letters: THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
(Luk 23:38 LITV-TSP)

Thx for the posts

i like the language details

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LoveGodForever · Mar 5, 2018

Stunnedbygrace said:

Hi SBG,

Nice to see you and very wecome here. Haven't said hello for a while I guess so nice to catch up. I am leaving the scripture references out. Can you find the scriptures in this post?

I love Romans 8 it is a beautliful chapter of the Born again Christian who ABIDES in Christ and walks in the Spirit. It is the demonstration of RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH in the WORD of God. We are his dwelling place through his Spirit for those who walk not be sight but by faith in his Word.

WE ARE HIS TEMPLE

Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

WHAT IS THE FLESH?

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, impurity, licentiousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, strife, jealousy, wrath, selfishness, divisions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and such like: of which I tell you beforehand, as I have also told you in time past, that they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

HOW DO WE DEFILE GOD'S TEMPLE?

Hear, and understand: It is not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but that which comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man. Are you also yet without understanding?

Those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man

Truly, truly I say unto you unless a man is BORN AGAIN he can in no wise see the KINGGDOM of HEAVEN. Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his nature remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil

ALL who defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. To defile God's temple is to CONTINUE in KNOW UNREPENTANT SIN.

ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Studyman · Mar 5, 2018

PS said:

One purpose and instruction regarding the Sabbath Jesus made for man is to work six days in preparation for the Sabbath, the 6th day being the "day of Preparation".

Ex. 16:22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

They were to prepare their food and make sure they had what they needed through the Sabbath. Symbolic of the true Christian walk in this time of testing in preparation for the return of Jesus and His 1000 year reign.

Of course we have the False preachers and mockers like the Pharisees who interpreted this to mean you couldn't take a walk on the Sabbath and eat a strawberry, and even today suggesting God didn't allow folks to keep a fire to warm themselves. But bringing the wood in for heat would be done on Friday. Preparing the food and cooking it would be done on Friday. Or making money to purchase gas would be done during the week.

The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

Jesus created His Sabbath for man, His Yoke is easy, His burden light. Those who follow Him and His Sayings know this. Those who don't Follow His Sayings do not know this and therefore preach that God's Sabbath is a burden. And to them it is.

But we are not to let them judge us or beguile us into rejecting the very instruction Jesus created for us.

Col. 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

If a person doesn't have enough trust and faith in Jesus to follow some simple instructions, why would we let that person influence us? Paul says not to let them influence us.

LoveGodForever · Mar 5, 2018

Dan_473 said:

Yes the interlinear agrees with what I have been sharing with you. The Woman was a sinner under the law not Jesus. It is saying Jesus was born of sinners. As shown earlier through the scriptures...

When you combine Gal 4:4 with Romans 3:19-23 it is very clear what the meaning is....

Romans 3
19, Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21, But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22, Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and on all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The scripture says the woman was under the law (sinner) not Jesus. So Jesus was born of sinners but did not sin. This is why he is our perfect sacrifice to those who believe.

Rom 2:12
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

Dan_473 said:

Yes Jesus was a man of course it is masculine. Thanks everything you have shown only agrees with what I have been sharing with you. If you are under the law you are guilty before God of breaking it. The scripture says the woman was under the law (sinner) not Jesus.

ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

PS · Mar 5, 2018

Studyman said:

One purpose and instruction regarding the Sabbath Jesus made for man is to work six days in preparation for the Sabbath, the 6th day being the "day of Preparation".

Ex. 16:22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

They were to prepare their food and make sure they had what they needed through the Sabbath. Symbolic of the true Christian walk in this time of testing in preparation for the return of Jesus and His 1000 year reign.

Of course we have the False preachers and mockers like the Pharisees who interpreted this to mean you couldn't take a walk on the Sabbath and eat a strawberry, and even today suggesting God didn't allow folks to keep a fire to warm themselves. But bringing the wood in for heat would be done on Friday. Preparing the food and cooking it would be done on Friday. Or making money to purchase gas would be done during the week.

The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

Jesus created His Sabbath for man, His Yoke is easy, His burden light. Those who follow Him and His Sayings know this. Those who don't Follow His Sayings do not know this and therefore preach that God's Sabbath is a burden. And to them it is.

But we are not to let them judge us or beguile us into rejecting the very instruction Jesus created for us.

Col. 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

If a person doesn't have enough trust and faith in Jesus to follow some simple instructions, why would we let that person influence us? Paul says not to let them influence us.

As I said, the law is ended apart from the two great commandments Jesus gave us in post 5922.

LoveGodForever · Mar 5, 2018

Jackson123 said:

Hello my friend,

It is very clear you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is or the NEW. It is sad for you Jackson. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand the NEW? For your own sake my friend turn to God. Seek him while he is near. Tomorrow may be too late.

ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Dan_473 · Mar 5, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

Yes the interlinear agrees with what I have been sharing with you. The Woman was a sinner under the law not Jesus. It is saying Jesus was born of sinners. As shown earlier through the scriptures...

When you combine Gal 4:4 with Romans 3:19-23 it is very clear what the meaning is....

Romans 3
19, Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21, But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22, Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and on all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The scripture says the woman was under the law (sinner) not Jesus. So Jesus was born of sinners but did not sin. This is why he is our perfect sacrifice to those who believe.

Rom 2:12
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

Yes Jesus was a man of course it is masculine. Thanks everything you have shown only agrees with what I have been sharing with you. If you are under the law you are guilty before God of breaking it. The scripture says the woman was under the law (sinner) not Jesus.

ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

no, Born under the law refers to Jesus

in Greek, word order isn't important like it is in English

the reader depends on things like gender to know what refers to what

born is masculine here

Yes, Mary was born under the law
but Jesus is the one being referred to here

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LoveGodForever · Mar 5, 2018

Dan_473 said:

Yes indeed of course Mary is being referred to as born under the law (a sinner) that is my point. I am not disagreeing that Jesus is being born he is a man and of course its reference is masculine in meaning that Jesus was born of sinners but was not one.

Gal 4:4 is talking about Jesus being born of sinners (mankind) not that he is a sinner. That is why Gal 4:4 connects very nicely with Romans 3:19-23 and 2:12 as shown in the forst post above.

Getting back to what we were originally talking about earlier and that is to be under the law means to be guilty of SIN (breaking it) in the context already shown in Romans.

Studyman · Mar 5, 2018

joefizz said:

The discussion about Matt. 5 is who was the "Them" Jesus was speaking about. Moses and the Prophets or the Jews that had corrupted His Word for centuries.

Here is an over view.

Matt.5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

It seems Jesus is settled that the Law and Prophets, as written, shall stand. No indication here that there is anything missing, or wrong with the Law and Prophets.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Again, Moses has already given the instructions from God. No indication that there is a problem accept if "MEN" teach folks to break it. Did Moses teach folks to break God's Laws? Did the Jews/Pharisees teach folks to break God's Laws? Jesus said they did and killed the Prophets of old time when He sent them to correct them.

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For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Again, these are the teachers of the Word that had corrupted the Word, and taught others to do the same. You know the scriptures.

21 Ye have heard that it was said by/to them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

So now, "many" who come in Christ's Name, would have me believe that Jesus just ignored everything He just said about those who are teaching about God's Word. The Scribes and Pharisees that He just rebuked. I am to believe that Jesus changed the subject completely, and is now setting about to change the Laws He just said not one jot or title would pass.

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

These "many", who come in Christ's Name, would have me believe that the Law and Prophets that He just stood by, is now being changed out of the blue. And that He isn't talking about "MEN" who had corrupted His Fathers commandments for centuries anymore, but instead contradicting Himself and now is saying you can't trust what is written by Moses, and He is changing the instruction to mean something God never told Moses.

But God did tell Moses. Lev. 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Moses taught this, but the "THEM" of old time did not. either those teaching the "Them of old time" , or the teaching of the "Them of old time", there is no difference, both translations are the same. They said one thing, and Jesus pointed out that He, before becoming a man, said something different as it is written.

So the truth is Jesus is speaking about the Jews who had corrupted God's Commandments by teaching parts of His Word, but omitting the "Weightier matters of the Law" like mercy, Faith, Judgment. He touched on this again in Matt. 23.

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

The preaching that Jesus was speaking about Moses and the Prophets and not the Scribes and Pharisees who had corrupted God's Word in Matt. 5 is a lie, a deception.

People use this lie to justify rejecting God's Instructions, mostly the Sabbath.

"Jesus changed adultery and murder, could He also change the Sabbath?

He didn't change the meaning of any of God's Instructions in Matt. 5.. The Law and the Prophets taught the very same things Jesus taught, but the Scribes and Pharisees did not.

He was correcting their teaching of the Jews that had deceived so many people for centuries, not God or Moses or the Prophets as some on this forum preach.

Stunnedbygrace · Mar 5, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

Hi SBG,

Nice to see you and very wecome here. Haven't said hello for a while I guess so nice to catch up. I am leaving the scripture references out. Can you find the scriptures in this post?

I love Romans 8 it is a beautliful chapter of the Born again Christian who ABIDES in Christ and walks in the Spirit. It is the demonstration of RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH in the WORD of God. We are his dwelling place through his Spirit for those who walk not be sight but by faith in his Word.

WE ARE HIS TEMPLE

Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

WHAT IS THE FLESH?

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, impurity, licentiousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, strife, jealousy, wrath, selfishness, divisions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and such like: of which I tell you beforehand, as I have also told you in time past, that they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

HOW DO WE DEFILE GOD'S TEMPLE?

Hear, and understand: It is not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but that which comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man. Are you also yet without understanding?

Those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man

Truly, truly I say unto you unless a man is BORN AGAIN he can in no wise see the KINGGDOM of HEAVEN. Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his nature remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil

ALL who defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. To defile God's temple is to CONTINUE in KNOW UNREPENTANT SIN.

ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Yes, hello again.

You cannot have it both ways. Is it what comes from out of a mans heart that defiles him or is it a lack of some outward display (such as not traveling to a church on Saturday) that defiles him?

The law is spiritual, not fleshual! My flesh has been condemned. It has died and is dying. Carrying on over a condemned building is worthless.

Studyman · Mar 5, 2018

PS said:

But without the instructions of how to follow these two Commandments you have what we have now. Hundreds of different religious franchises all teaching different ways to "Love the Lord thy God" and "Love thy neighbor as thyself". Confusion, Babylon.

Yes, you and the Pope believes He can create Law and Holy and Clean, and you might believe this. But the Pope didn't die for me, Jesus did. So I'm going to follow the instructions of Jesus on how to Love Him, myself, and my neighbor. And this instruction is given in the Law and Prophets that you and the Pope preach against.

The instructions you preach have ended are the very instructions that show us how to Love God. Why would you preach against them?

Jackson123 · Mar 5, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

My dear,

it it is simple what kindle mean.

kin·dle[SUP]1[/SUP]
ˈkindl/
verb

light or set on fire.
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[TR]
[TD="class: lr_dct_nyms_ttl"]synonyms:[/TD]
[TD]light, ignite, set alight, set light to, set fire to, put a match to"he kindled a fire"

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[/TR]
[/TABLE]
- arouse or inspire (an emotion or feeling).
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  [TD="class: lr_dct_nyms_ttl"]synonyms:[/TD]
  [TD]rouse, arouse, wake, awake, awaken; More
  [/TD]
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- (of an emotion) be aroused.
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  [TD]rouse, arouse, wake, awake, awaken; More
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Old and New Testament use a written word, so you have to know what the word mean dear.

Kindle is simple word dear

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GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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