Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

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Should we Do what Paul did?

Act 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia,
and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and sat down.

Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles
besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

-- here was A perfect chance to tell gential's not to follow the commandments,
but here he was teaching new gentials on the Sabbath, who never before keep it.

Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews
and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them,
persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.

Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together
to hear the word of God.

why Did he not preach the next day, why wait a whole week before speaking.
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Act 16:12 And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of
Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days.

Act 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side,
where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto
the women which resorted thither.


The Sabbath was a day for pray and worship , go anywhere worship was to be had.
 
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Should we Do what Paul did?

Act 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia,
and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and sat down.

Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles
besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

-- here was A perfect chance to tell gential's not to follow the commandments,
but here he was teaching new gentials on the Sabbath, who never before keep it.

Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews
and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them,
persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.

Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together
to hear the word of God.

why Did he not preach the next day, why wait a whole week before speaking.
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Act 16:12 And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of
Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days.

Act 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side,
where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto
the women which resorted thither.


The Sabbath was a day for pray and worship , go anywhere worship was to be had.
Indeed Prove-all, nice scriptures. PAUL worshipped with both Jew and Gentile believers on the Sabbath. Jesus is also our example and he kept the Sabbath teaching us how to keep it the way he made it and led by example.
 

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Interesting that there is over 40 verses about how circumcision was changed.
But not one scripture that says the 7th day Sabbath of Gods is gone.


But Jesus also says the law was not going away,then He says
if you teach that they are done away you will be ........
 

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PAUL worshipped with both Jew and Gentile believers on the Sabbath.
No,

He went to where the Jews, his people, were at the time that they were there. Acts does not at all say he went there to worship, but that he went there and proclaimed Christ and preached the gospel.
 

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"But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call
heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things
which are written in the law and in the prophets:"

If Paul taught against the law (which is not true) then he certainly wouldn't have
worshiped by believing those things written therein. Paul was not a deceiver by
opposing his own beliefs that he taught to others.

Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come.
For which hope's sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews. after Acts 13, Acts 26:7

-here Paul says that his hope to come, is in the promises given to the twelve tribes.

4Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants,
and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; Romans 9:4

-the promises and the covenants of God, all the sonship and the glory, belong to Israel.

Jer 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that
I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

-No burnt offerings or sacrifices orginally given, but to obey his voice.

Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets,
neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

-no good standing with our Savior if you do not believe Moses and the prophets.



1. Paul was a Pharisee. A teacher of God's law. He continued to
call himself a Pharisee even after joining the church. (Acts 23:6)

Then Paul, knowing that some of them were Sadducees and the others Pharisees,
called out in the Sanhedrin, "My brothers, I am a Pharisee, descended from Pharisees.
"I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead."

2. Paul loved God's law. It was a delight to him.
(Romans 7:22) For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being,

3. Paul called God's law holy.
(Romans 7:12) So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy,
righteous and good.

4. Paul knew that breaking God's law is the very definition of sin.
(1 John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:
for sin is the transgression of the law.

5. Paul said that we don't nullify the law of God by our faith in Jesus Christ.
(Romans 3:31) Do we nullify the law by this faith? By no means! Rather we uphold the law.

6. Paul often read from the scriptures on the sabbath (which is kept by the apostles 84
times in the book of Acts). And the only scriptures at that time was the old testament.

(Acts 17:2) As was his custom, Paul went into the synagogue,
and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures.

7. Paul was accused of forsaking the law of Moses when he first joined the church.
(And ironically, he's still being accused today.)

(Act 21:21) They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among
the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children
or live according to our customs.

8. These accusations were shown to be false.

(Acts 21:24) Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses,
so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know there is no truth
in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the law.

9. When Paul was accused of forsaking the law of Moses, he always denied this,
and said he does live according to the law.

(Acts 24:14) But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call
a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law
and written in the Prophets,

10. Paul said that those who refuse to submit to the law are "carnal minded"
and hostile to God.
(Romans 8:7-8) The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit
to God's law, nor can it do so. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

11. Paul continued to travel to Jerusalem to celebrate God's feast days
after joining the church.
(Acts 18:21) But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that
cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.


12. Paul often quoted from Moses's writings, and cited it as authority.
(1 Corinthians 9:9-10) Do I say this merely on human authority?

Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? For it is written in the Law of Moses:
“Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.” Is it about oxen that God
is concerned? Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he? Yes, this was written for us,
because whoever plows and threshes should be able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest.

13. Paul claimed that ALL scripture is good for instruction in righteousness,
and given through inspiration of God. He never singled out Moses' writings.
(2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness,

14. Paul mentions that priests are still offering sacrifices to God
even after Christ's death on the cross.
(Hebrews 8:3-4) Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices,
and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer.

If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests
who offer the gifts prescribed by the law.

15. The most well known teaching in Paul's letters is the one where he says
"you are not under law but under grace".
Millions of people quote this scripture, they almost always leave out the scripture
that immediately follows it. Watch what happens when you add the context....

(Romans 6:14-16) For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under
the law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law
but under grace? By no means! Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to
someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey--whether you are
slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

16. Paul told the Colossians not to let anyone judge them because they were observing
God's sabbaths and feasts because these appointed times are "a shadow of things to come".
Meaning they reveal future events, just like the passover foreshadowed Christ's
sacrifice on the cross.(Colossians 2:16-17)

17. Paul never repremanded anyone for obeying God's law. Instead, he repremanded
new gentile converts, the Galatians, who were trying to be justified by the law,
instead of faith in Jesus Christ.
(Galatians 2:16) Know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith
in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by
faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

18. The Galatians, who Paul was repremanding for trying to be justified by the law,
were going back to serving other gods after they were circumcised. This is why Paul
had to explain that the works of the law can't earn your salvation.
(Galatians 4: 8-11) Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those
who by nature are not gods. But now that you know God—or rather are known by God
—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces? Do you wish
to be enslaved by them all over again? 10 You are observing special days and months
and seasons and years! I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.

- those weak and miserable forces where not Gods convocation

19. Paul understood that obedience to God's law is a natural result of salvation.
Once you become a true christian, God writes His law on your heart and mind,
and causes you to walk in them.(Hebrews 10:16)

(Hebrews 10:16) "This is the covenant I will make with them after that time,
says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds."

20. Paul's letters come with a warning label attached to them.
(2 Peter 3:16-17) He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these
matters.His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant
and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.


Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you
may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.
 

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Interesting that there is over 40 verses about how circumcision was changed.
But not one scripture that says the 7th day Sabbath of Gods is gone.


But Jesus also says the law was not going away,then He says
if you teach that they are done away you will be ........
So ask yourself, what does it mean that circumcision - also His law - is very clearly countermanded by obedience according to the spirit and no longer by the letter?

Methinks the point is sailing straightway oer thy head.
 

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Paul, who loves God's law, clearly taught against circumcision.

You gonna have to deal with that intellectually.
 

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No,

He went to where the Jews, his people, were at the time that they were there. Acts does not at all say he went there to worship, but that he went there and proclaimed Christ and preached the gospel.
Paul taught jews and gentials on the Sabbath,
the gentials even begged to be taught more,
but Paul did not teach sunday school, but waited for the next Sabbath day.
Eight places the first day of the week mentioned, it was a work day.
 
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there is no difference, circumcision - of the 'heart and of the mind are exactly the same...
it's a matter of accepting His Holy Love...
 

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Paul, who loves God's law, clearly taught against circumcision.
You gonna have to deal with that intellectually.


We have verses that changed circumcision, but no verses that changed the days of the week.
Jesus changed to, we can do good on the Sabbath, so if ox or car fell in a ditch, you could help.
 
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We have verses that changed circumcision, but no verses that changed the days of the week.
Jesus changed to, we can do good on the Sabbath, so if ox or car fell in a ditch, you could help.
We have verses that clearly say we are not under law, and that the Sinai covenant is annulled. But people ignore them anyway.

You're dodging: how is physical circumcision taken away, when it is the sign of a covenant greater than Sinai, and it is also part of the self-same Sinai marriage covenant by which the sabbaths are given?
How does Paul justify it?

Sinai covenant is annulled, but covenant with Abraham remains. How is circumcision no longer required in the flesh? Even called antichrist?

Not one jot or tittle removed! But circumcision is certainly jots and tittles!

How?
 

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We have verses that changed circumcision, but no verses that changed the days of the week.
Jesus changed to, we can do good on the Sabbath, so if ox or car fell in a ditch, you could help.
Christ didn't *change* sabbath ritual observation to allow good to be done. He chastised them for not doing this already, and pointed out that the priests profaning it weekly as a matter of their duties, and circumcision taking place ((on 8th day)) superseding sabbath rites should have taught them this already.
 

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The curse of the law

Many believe the law itself is “the curse” but scripture tells us Gods law is holy, just, and good
in Romans 7:12 “Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.”

So what was the curse? The curse of the law came in by 2 ways, the first is shown here in
Deuteronomy 27:26 “Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them.
And all the people shall say, Amen.”

The first part of this curse has to do with sin as it is written in Romans 7:10-11 “And the com.,
which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.11 For sin, taking occasion by the com. ,
deceived me, and by it slew me.” Again we see the law was ordained unto life, but the curse came
when man could not keep the law because of the weakness of his flesh and sin. So who’s the bad
guy here, the law, or sin? If you answered sin then you would be correct.

Now for the second part of the curse, which is swearing to the oath. It is written Galatians 3:10
“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every
one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.”

After Moses had read the law, all the blessings and the curses, the people then bound themselves
to the oath by agreeing to keep everything that was written in the law. The word oath in Hebrew
can also be defined and shown as the word curse in scripture.

And swearing to an oath can also be shown as binding ones soul to a curse as in Neh 10:29
“They clave to their brethren, their nobles, entered into a curse,and into an oath, to walk in
God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the com-
mandents of the Lord our Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;”


“Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice;
therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant
of God, because we have sinned against him.” Daniel 9:11

And here is where the curse came in by swearing themselves to the oath in Numbers 30:2
“If a man vow a vow unto the Lord, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall
not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.”

And so being unable to perform the vow to God to keep the whole law, because of the weakness
of the flesh and of sin, then the curses mentioned in the law were put into effect.


Jesus said in Matthew 5:33-37

“Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself,
but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven;
for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city
of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white
or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these
cometh of evil.”

And here again also in James 5:12 “But above all things, my brethren, swear not,
neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your
yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.”

And a word to the wise, if you ever have to go to court and are asked to forswear
yourself to an oath, or any other vow or oath for that matter…don’t do it! Peace.
 

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Christ didn't *change* sabbath ritual observation to allow good to be done.

Of how much more value then
is a man than a sheep?
Therefore
it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
 
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No,

He went to where the Jews, his people, were at the time that they were there. Acts does not at all say he went there to worship, but that he went there and proclaimed Christ and preached the gospel.
So in your view PH;

PAUL was breaking God's Sabbath when he was keeping the Sabbath with both Jews and Gentiles?

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Acts 13
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And when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
15, And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, You men and brethren, if you have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.

42, And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. <Why wait till the next Sabbath?>
43, Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
44, And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

Acts 16
13,
And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a riverside, where prayer was accustomed to be made; and we sat down, and spoke unto the women who met there.

Acts 17
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Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews:
2, And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

Acts 18
4,
And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
5, And when Silas and Timothy were come from Macedonia, Paul was pressed in the word, and testified to the Jews that Jesus was the Christ.

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Seems God's Word disagrees with you PH. Paul as his manner was kept the Sabbath with both Jews and gentile believers.

Paul preached the Gospel everyday of the week this does not mean he broke it. He also Kept God's Sabbath as the scriptures say above with both Jews and Gentile believers.

Paul was the Apostle of the Gentiles not the Jews, so why did he keep the Sabbath with the Jews as well as the Gentile believers if he was teaching against God's Sabbath?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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Should we Do what Paul did?

Act 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia,
and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and sat down.

Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles
besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

-- here was A perfect chance to tell gential's not to follow the commandments,
but here he was teaching new gentials on the Sabbath, who never before keep it.

Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews
and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them,
persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.

Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together
to hear the word of God.

why Did he not preach the next day, why wait a whole week before speaking.
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Act 16:12 And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of
Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days.

Act 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side,
where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto
the women which resorted thither.


The Sabbath was a day for pray and worship , go anywhere worship was to be had.
Sure,
like pointing out to those still in bondage that by Him all that believe are justified from all things, from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses?

Acts 13:38-39
Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: 39And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
 

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Of how much more value then
is a man than a sheep?
Therefore
it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
Is this a *change*?

Was man less valuable than a sheep, previously?

;)

You prove my statement, thank you
 

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How is circumcision become symbolic of heresy at worst and meaningless at best, when it is commanded in the Law and it is the sign of a covenant which supercedes that of Sinai? A covenant that remains even while Sinai is made void?

Why is it that circumcision - on the 8th day - rakes precedence under the Law of the Sinai covenant over sabbath observation?
 
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How is circumcision become symbolic of heresy at worst and meaningless at best, when it is commanded in the Law and it is the sign of a covenant which supercedes that of Sinai? A covenant that remains even while Sinai is made void?

Why is it that circumcision - on the 8th day - rakes precedence under the Law of the Sinai covenant over sabbath observation?
Because on the importance scale circumcision was more important AND one couldn't even observe the Sabbath in a valid manner without being circumcised & in fact, under the old Covenant, God Himself nearly killed Moses over [lack of]circumcision.

Humanity was intended by God to perpetually live in His Rest ( Sabbath ) therefore the Sabbath wasn't a 12 hour period of time that cycled on & off - it was to be forever.

Sin entered and our 1st Parents were expelled from God's Rest ( Sabbath ). The Gospel is about how we can get back into that Rest of God through Christ ( who is the Sabbath for those who come to Him ).
 

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To say that the Ten Commandments and all the other laws are all the same is very wrong.

Think of the shadow of a pole in the afternoon. You can use the shadow to see what the pole looks like and if you follow it you will come too the base of the pole. All the laws that were shadows of the death and resurrection of Jesus finished, when they meet the real thing. No need to practice the sacrifice anymore because Christ is that sacrifice. But the Sabbath was set up before Christ was even needed to be our rest. Given before sin entered. The reason for keeping the sabbath is in remembrance of creation, The Sabbath is not a shadow of anything it is still the 7th day of the week which has not changed.

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, ....
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

How does Christ bring this to an end? We still have the 7th day each week.
 
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