Good Monday morning... :) Quick simple question for ya...

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ramx2016

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Will we have freedom of choice in Heaven?

Okay, have fun.

Thanks,

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Ugly

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You mean like how Lucifer did when he was in heaven?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Yeah,

And based on what we did on earth, and what CHrist did, We will never chose to do anything against God, or not trust him again..
 
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ramx2016

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Ugly said:
You mean like how Lucifer did when he was in heaven?
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Exactly!! I don't want it! Just tell me what to do, where to be and how to get there... :)
 
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Ugly

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You don't want free will in heaven?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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ramx2016 said:
Exactly!! I don't want it! Just tell me what to do, where to be and how to get there... :)
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How would that give you faith to trust God then?
 
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Part of GOD's demonstration of love is giving us the right to choose; as long as GOD is love, we will have the right to choose.
 
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For this corruptible must put on incorruption,
and this mortal must put on immortality.

And hast made us unto our God kings and priests:
and we shall reign on the earth.
 
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ramx2016

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NO!! I struggle daily dealing with all kinds of temptation... and I'm sick and tired of it!!!!!!!!!

I simply want to be with Jesus and be happy... case closed...

It does scare me that even Angels can fall as did lucifer and his gang.... :(

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ramx2016

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eternally-gratefull said:

How would that give you faith to trust God then?
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I see what you are saying... but with the fall of lucifer.... one is led to believe there IS sin in heaven ... and I want to be free from temptation... does that make sense?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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ramx2016 said:
NO!! I struggle daily dealing with all kinds of temptation... and I'm sick and tired of it!!!!!!!!!

I simply want to be with Jesus and be happy... case closed...

It does scare me that even Angels can fall as did lucifer and his gang.... :(

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after what they saw Christ do.

do you think an angel could fall today? if so why?
 
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ramx2016

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eternally-gratefull said:

after what they saw Christ do.

do you think an angel could fall today? if so why?
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I really don't know... I'll be the FIRST to admit I'm still very ignorant of the Word...

So you are saying that the fall of lucifer was required for creation?
 
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Birds fly south in the winter, no?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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ramx2016 said:
I really don't know... I'll be the FIRST to admit I'm still very ignorant of the Word...

So you are saying that the fall of lucifer was required for creation?
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No, And I am not trying to be tricky. I just asked a simple question.

If you saw all that was against God And all the lies against the character of someone, And you saw the love of the one who was sinned against. who gave his life for the ones he loved, who were his enemy.

could you ever believe that lie again?
 
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ramx2016

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eternally-gratefull said:
No, And I am not trying to be tricky. I just asked a simple question.

If you saw all that was against God And all the lies against the character of someone, And you saw the love of the one who was sinned against. who gave his life for the ones he loved, who were his enemy.

could you ever believe that lie again?
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Oh I know ... I wasn't trying to imply anything....:) Just trying to figure out things in my own head....
 
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eternally-gratefull

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ramx2016 said:
Oh I know ... I wasn't trying to imply anything....:) Just trying to figure out things in my own head....
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So, If you saw the worse And saw what it really did to people (we can only fathom now.. We will KNOW when we are in heaven)

WOuld we ever chose to do bad again? could we?
 
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ramx2016 said:
I see what you are saying... but with the fall of lucifer.... one is led to believe there IS sin in heaven ... and I want to be free from temptation... does that make sense?
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We cannot sin when we get to heaven

1. At salvation we are given a new, godly nature (2 Peter 1:4)

2. One aspect of this nature is that we will not sin (1 John 3:5-6, 9)

3. Upon death, this new nature becomes dominant in the believer (Romans 6:4-7)

We have the very nature of Christ imputed to us. If Christ cannot sin - neither can we, once we shed this mortal flesh with it's sinful nature.
 
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Gr8grace

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ramx2016 said:
Exactly!! I don't want it! Just tell me what to do, where to be and how to get there... :)
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You will have put on the incorruptible. You will be living in the new creation in Christ that cannot sin. You won't be able to fall, but I believe you will be able to choose to go to your cabin on Neptune or your favorite fishing spot on the new earth if you want.:D
 
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