got another can of worms to open up. see if someone can 'splain this one to me...

[nathan3]

To : in-God-we-trust

You can believe like you want to for sure. I just wanted to make my stance on it, clear here. because of what I posted, some people think ; that I believe the theory of Evolution; but I don't believe evolution... So I just want to be clear to everyone what I believe. Nothing against you personally.......

Good scripture twofeet about, how it grieved God, that he had made man flesh also. like, also like the animals. He didn't want to have to do that.

 

[in-God-we-trust]

""Man starts from nothing. He begins in helplessness, ignorance, and inexperience. All his works, therefore, proceed on the principle of evolution. This principle is seen only in human affairs : from the hut to the palace ; from the canoe to the ocean liner ; from the spade and ploughshare to machines for drilling, reaping, and binding, etc. But the birds build their nests to-day as at the beginning. The moment we pass the boundary line, and enter the Divine sphere, no trace or vestige of evolution is seen. There is growth and development within, but no passing, change, or evolution out from one into another. On the other hand, all God's works are perfect. "" ( bullinger )""

Very good argument. But it is easy to contradict. Man was only subject to evolution till around 10'000 years ago. Until then man developed as slowly as the above mentionned birds.

But then man started to outpace the evolution. The progress that man made since then is a hundred or thousend times faster than the progress man made before. Since God has aspirated man with His Spirit man has made astonishing progress.

John 1

New International Version (NIV)

The Word Became Flesh

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [SUP]2 [/SUP]He was with God in the beginning. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. [SUP]4 [/SUP]In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. [SUP]5 [/SUP]The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[SUP][a][/SUP] it.

 

[GabrielleStarling]

I speculate that God created dinosaurs along with every other animals and they were all originally herbivores living in peace in the Garden of Eden. However the fall led to death, disharmony, and wickedness on earth, both man and beast were corrupt thus some dinosaurs probably became carnivores and so ferocious that they couldn't live alongside humans anymore and their ecological niche changed.

The end.

I like the way you think. Does anyone think it is also possible that the dinosaurs simply failed to board the ark?
Perhaps since they became so ferocious and large it would make sense if they were unable to fit, or their presence jeopardized other animals, or that they could not be persuaded to board for whatever reason... only problem with that theory is that there are many ferocious animals that still exist today, but maybe....

 

[in-God-we-trust]

To : in-God-we-trust

You can believe like you want to for sure. I just wanted to make my stance on it, clear here. because of what I posted, some people think ; that I believe the theory of Evolution; but I don't believe evolution... So I just want to be clear to everyone what I believe. Nothing against you personally.......

Thank you! I do also not have any special knowledge. If I know anything then I owe it to God only. I think we both have the Holy Spirit and we share our knowledge anyway. There is no use for boasting.

Galatians 6:14 May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ,[SUP][/SUP] through which[SUP][/SUP] the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.[SUP][/SUP]

I do also not believe the theory of Evolution. The only One I believe in is God!

But we should not despise human science either. Because:

proverbs 3:13 Blessed is the man who finds wisdom, the man who gains understanding, 14 for she is more profitable than silver and yields better returns than gold.[SUP][/SUP]15 She is more precious than rubies;[SUP][/SUP] nothing you desire can compare with her.[SUP][/SUP]16 Long life is in her right hand;[SUP][/SUP] in her left hand are riches and honor.[SUP][/SUP]17 Her ways are pleasant ways, and all her paths are peace.[SUP][/SUP]18 She is a tree of life[SUP][/SUP] to those who embrace her; those who lay hold of her will be blessed.[SUP][/SUP]19 By wisdom[SUP][/SUP] the LORD laid the earth's foundations,[SUP][/SUP] by understanding he set the heavens[SUP][/SUP] in place; 20 by his knowledge the deeps were divided, and the clouds let drop the dew.

 

[starfield]

I like the way you think. Does anyone think it is also possible that the dinosaurs simply failed to board the ark?
Perhaps since they became so ferocious and large it would make sense if they were unable to fit, or their presence jeopardized other animals, or that they could not be persuaded to board for whatever reason... only problem with that theory is that there are many ferocious animals that still exist today, but maybe....

Dinosaurs would have definitely been on the ark assuming they existed at that time because God instructed Noah to bring in representative land animals and they were obviously land creatures. Gen 6:20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.

The rooms that he made were most likely for caging wild animals so they won't endanger others. Gen 6:14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.

He probably took mostly young dinosaurs due to size constraints, they would be easier to tame, and adapt to the ark environment better than older ones.

 

[Elizabeth619]

I maintain that the theory of evolution by Charles Darwin proves correct.

That is not against the Bible, but maintains the Bible! On the contrary, it strengthens it, as all truth strengthens the believer! God is truth!

Wisdom and knowledge is better than gold and silver!

You may have evolved from a monkey, but my ancestors did not. Just sayin.

 

[Tintin]

Bahaha! Good one, Elizabeth.

In God We Trust, truth sustains and strengthens only when it is Truth. Provided that the THEORY of Evolution is True, your point stands. But as Evolution isn't truth, your post is nonsense.

 

[Bookends]

I'm sorry but mythology does not exist in the bible. The Bible is spiritual in all its content. The focus of the Bible is Jesus Christ and Him Crucified. Whenever the dragon is referred to be sure it is satan. The prophets of old were inspired by the Holy Spirit to say what they said. Even Daniel said Lord I don't understand what you have shown me. The lord said it's not for you but put in a book. For in the last day's knowledge will increase and people will be going to and fro. Wow is that happening now or what

Why do you assume Daniel was talking about human knowledge or 21st century worldly knowledge and not the true knowledge of God word, which is pure knowledge, which spread quickly during the time of Christ and mostly after Christ. This knowledge spread quickly threw out the whole earth (Land, region, inhabited or know parts of the world)

Colossians 1

[SUP]3 [/SUP]We give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, [SUP]4 [/SUP]since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of your love for all the saints; [SUP]5 [/SUP]because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, [SUP]6 [/SUP]which has come to you, as it has also in all the world, and is bringing forth fruit,[SUP][b][/SUP] as it is also among you since the day you heard and knew the grace of God in truth;
[h=3]Preeminence of Christ[/h][SUP]9 [/SUP]For this reason we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; [SUP]10 [/SUP]that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing Him, being fruitful in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; [SUP]11 [/SUP]strengthened with all might, according to His glorious power, for all patience and longsuffering with joy; [SUP]12 [/SUP]giving thanks to the Father who has qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light. [SUP]13 [/SUP]He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyedus into the kingdom of the Son of His love, [SUP]14 [/SUP]in whom we have redemption through His blood,[SUP][c][/SUP] the forgiveness of sins.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. [SUP]18 [/SUP]And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.
[h=3]Reconciled in Christ[/h][SUP]19 [/SUP]For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, [SUP]20 [/SUP]and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— [SUP]23[/SUP]if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.

Acts 2:5[SUP]5 [/SUP]And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven.

 

[trukin]

wow, i tolod u i was gonna open another can of worms...lol. i got a few more coming later...keep watching. maybe in a couple days

 

[JGPS]

It's not much of a can of worms. There are around three stances on the issue each with some variants. Young Earth Creationism, Old Earth Creationism, and Gap Theory. The only disagreement is because of the different stances clashing, but that's true with any topic with multiple stances...

All three of those positions where represented though, which is unsurprising and probably a good thing.

 

[cfultz3]

wow, i tolod u i was gonna open another can of worms...lol. i got a few more coming later...keep watching. maybe in a couple days

......eagerly waiting for the show.......

 

[RickyZ]

Ricky, the subspecies we have today probably weren't around back in Adam's day. Also, the Bible say that God brought them to him, so he wouldn't have had to wander the earth trying to find them. Needless to say, it would've taken a lot less time than we would first think.

You're right, I totally forgot that it was God that brought the animals to Adam. That's why I'm here... always honing the sword!

Thanks

 

[in-God-we-trust]

You may have evolved from a monkey, but my ancestors did not. Just sayin.

Matthew 3
9And do not think you
can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of
these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10The ax is already at
the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be
cut down and thrown into the fire.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Matthew 3
9And do not think you
can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of
these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10The ax is already at
the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be
cut down and thrown into the fire.

Your point?

 

[in-God-we-trust]

Bahaha! Good one, Elizabeth.

In God We Trust, truth sustains and strengthens only when it is Truth. Provided that the THEORY of Evolution is True, your point stands. But as Evolution isn't truth, your post is nonsense.

God is truth, He allone knows what is true and what is not!

Human science is just an effort of humans to find the truth. Wisdom and knowledge is commended by God (see proverbs, Salomon). Science is good. But whether what science discovers is really true, nobody ever knows for sure.

The physical theories of our scientists are theories which nobody knows whether they are true or not. But when we see airplanes flying and men sent to moon then they are obvious evidences that the underlying physical theories prove quite true.

So is it with the theory of evolution.

What are you dreading? The evolution is quite an established theory. Even thousends of years ago, people anticipated that man and animal must have common ancesters, when they compared their faces, limbs etc.

What are you dreading? You have to dread God only!

 

[hattiebod]

where did the dinosaurs fit in???? just out of curiosity.

I do not have an answer but have read a couple of interesting things regarding the question. Some suggest dinosaurs existed before the flood and that afterwards, the environment was changed and they did not survive. Also, reptiles continue to grow, so in Genisis, people lived so much longer than they do now....Galapagos turtles reach such huge sizes because they live for over 100 years. If a monitor lizard lived for 200 years it would be scarily massive <><

 

[in-God-we-trust]

Your point?

You know exactly what I mean!

You are like a pharisee that thinks he is of special origin and only he can be saved. I know what origin I am most probably from and what I am: an animal inspired by God. If God can raise up children for Abraham out of stones, then He can raise up surely as well children for Abraham out of animals!

 

[mercyyomieomieo]

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[kenisyes]

It's amazing how much we lost when CC converted to the new front end. I was going to direct you to threads where I posted all this before. So now, I'm going to have to answer all the questions again. Dinosaurs are the results of experiments conducted by the nephilim prior to producting the giants.

FAQ's:
Behemoth means "animal kind". It is the plural of the word for beast, not a specific animal.
There are only a handful of dinosaurs ever discovered; most are fantasy recreations by musem curators.
Nephilim is an office, not a creature. They made the giants as enforcers, such is the testimony of the ancient writers and archeological artifacts.

 

[RoboOp]

It's amazing how much we lost when CC converted to the new front end. I was going to direct you to threads where I posted all this before.

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Hey kenisyes...... all threads should be here, and with the same URLs. I'll pm you to request examples if that's not the case. Thanks