But this is not what is said, It said that the people of daniel will at that time finish transgression.
Does it say that?
24 Seventy weeks are determined
upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
No it doesn't.
That's ridiculous.
Have you finished transgressing? Have you stopped all sin?
Or did Christ make an end of sin on your behalf, bringing in
everlasting righteousness (His) for you?
4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
Did Jesus reconcile Israel who believed(s) to God on the Cross?
to make reconciliation for iniquity
How are YOU saved? In any way different from how Israel who believed were and are saved? No.
That whole passage is about Jesus DOING all that for them (and us).
When He decreed desolation on Jerusalem, and when He said it is Finished did He seal up Daniel's vision and prophecy?
to seal up the vision and prophecy
Was Jesus the Most Holy Who was anointed?
and to anoint the most Holy
Of course He was.
So how can you reverse that and say because unbelieving anybody is still sinning means He didn't accomplish it?
Are you saying no people of Israel received the Messiah? Or that because all didn't then it means He didn't accomplish everything in Daniel? Was Isaiah not their own prophet who foretold what He would do?
Isaiah 53:12
Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
The above prophecy EXACTLY matches what Daniel saw, and what Jesus did.
He makes intercession for the transgressors - that's what this says:
to finish the transgression
Romans 10
The Word of Faith Brings Salvation
1Brethren, my heart’s desire and my prayer to God for them is for their salvation. 2For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge. 3For not knowing about God’s righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
5For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. 6But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ down), 7or ‘WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).” 8But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.” 12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”
14How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? 15How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, “HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!”
16However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, “LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?” 17So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
18But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have;
“THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH,
AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.”
19But I say, surely Israel did not know, did they? First Moses says,
“I WILL MAKE YOU JEALOUS BY THAT WHICH IS NOT A NATION,
BY A NATION WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WILL I ANGER YOU.”
20And Isaiah is very bold and says,
“I WAS FOUND BY THOSE WHO DID NOT SEEK ME,
I BECAME MANIFEST TO THOSE WHO DID NOT ASK FOR ME.”
21But as for Israel He says, “ALL THE DAY LONG I HAVE STRETCHED OUT MY HANDS TO A DISOBEDIENT AND OBSTINATE PEOPLE.”
Why is Paul saying here in Romans 10 that they DID HEAR? Notice he is saying they did hear, but not all received. Exactly according to God's purposes in preserving a remnant. Why is he saying they need the Gospel if they are totally blinded until some time our future?
11For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.” 12
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”
14How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? 15How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, “HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!”
16
However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, “LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?” 17So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
18
But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have;
“THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH,
AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.”
When did THIS happen?
18
But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have;
“THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH,
AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.”
Acts 1:8
But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
Acts 2
The Day of Pentecost
1When the day of Pentecost had come,
they were all together in one place. 2And suddenly there came from heaven a noise like a violent rushing wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3And there appeared to them tongues as of fire distributing themselves, and they rested on each one of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance.
5
Now there were Jews living in Jerusalem, devout men from every nation under heaven. 6And when this sound occurred, the crowd came together, and were bewildered because each one of them was hearing them speak in his own language. 7They were amazed and astonished, saying, “Why, are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 8“And how is it that we each hear them in our own language to which we were born? 9“
Parthians and Medes and Elamites, and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10
Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, 11Cretans and Arabs—we hear them in our own tongues speaking of the mighty deeds of God.”
Acts 2:4
All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
Acts 2:32
God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact.
Acts 4:33
With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all.
Romans 10:18
But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did: "Their voice has gone out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world."
5 Now there were Jews living in Jerusalem, devout men from every nation under heaven
Ez 37 says there will be a time God brings both tribes or kingdoms of Isreal together and at that time, Isreal will worship him, They will no longer transgress. Same things. It is Isreal that finishes the transgressions against God. Not God removing the penalty of sin
Does it? Does Ezekiel really say that?
If your future scenario (for Israel) is true, why do you still transgress? Are there 2 Gospels - one of works for them and grace for you?
Do you have to be actually and literally in yourself without sin and transgression to be saved? Is that the Gospel?
yet Isreal and daniels people are still in sin, Thus daniels prophesy could not be fulfilled. Or they would have made an end of transgressions agianst God.
If Daniel's prophecy is not fulfilled, we are all as blind and dead in trespasses as unbelieving jews.
Again, Christ died for everyone, Daniels prophesy concerns only the nation of Isreal.
How can you hold two opposing ideas like that?
Christ came FIRST for Israel (and many believed on Him and were (and are) saved.
Then the Gospel went to the Gentiles.
Romans 10
11For the Scripture says, “
WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.” 12
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”
Why does paul mentions jews (israel) and greeks if they couldn't call upon the Name of the Lord and be saved in his day?
2. Daniels prophesy concernied the nation of Isreal only. Not any gentile.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes,
to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
The naiton of Isreal is
1 Still in sin
2. Still transgrressing against God
3. Still commiting the harlot
4. Still without a king
5. Still doing what they were doing in Daniels' time, and have been doing since that time, thats why Jeruslaem is still being trampled under foot by Gentiles. .
I thought you said you didn't know WHO was living in the State of Israel?
Jerusalem is being trampled underfoot by gentiles? No, Jerusalem in under the control of jews.
They are only without a King...why?
until these things are fulfilled. Daniels prophesy is not fulfilled.
False teaching.
