HANG ON, IT IS GOING TO BE A ROUGH RIDE!

[DJ2]

Yup! There is so much anger!

You mean hypocrisy.

 

[Denadii]

You mean hypocrisy.

Ok If you say so..You're a hypocrite too...Happy? Just stop that stupid fighting

 

[tanakh]

This afternoon I was listening to this Christian radio station, it is a good solid fundamental teaching station that has good people on it. Anyway, this lady Jan has this program and she is right on the scriptures except that she believes in the false pre-trib rapture. She has this fellow on the program who is speaking in passionate heavy tones about how only the pre-trib rapture is in the bible and it is the only one that is true. You know folks, I realize that messed up people who profess Christ as Savior can and will teach and promote some ridiculous things, however we are living in the time when true believers have rejected truth and accepted doctrines of demons, fables, stories that are make up and not even found in the bible. It is my personal belief that these people are under a deceiving spirit so that up looks down, and north looks south. They really believe what does not exist except in their imagination. For crying out loud, there is no such thing as a pre-trib rapture even in the bible, you can look up pre-trib rapture in the encyclopedia and it will tell you that it was created by John Darby around 1830, why he made it up, and how he spread it around, the evidence is overwhelming that this is a false teaching...why do good Christian folks keep hanging on to something that is so false it is laughable?

Many of the beliefs of Pre Tribbers stem from a book written by a Jesuit Priest called Manuel De Lacunza called The coming of the Messiah in glory and majesty. It was published in Spanish in 1811 under the pseudo name of Juan Josefat Ben Ezra
to fool Protestants into believing that it was written by a Jewish convert.( I have a Kindle copy of it ) A copy found its way into the Archbishop of Canterbury's library and a librarian called Maitland produced Pamplets based on extracts from it
It was from them that John Darby got his theology. The whole book was also translated into English by the Rev Edward Irving and published in 1827. Lacunzas book was based on Francisco Ribera's commentary on Revelation published in`1590 He wrote it to clear the Pope of the charge of being the Antichrist.

 

[WingsOfFidelity]

Why is this so important to you?

There are those who believe that they will not have their faith tested and will not be prepared for what is to come. Do you think it is important to help your fellow brothers and sisters to be prepared or let them sit on a false security?

 

[Rainrider]

This afternoon I was listening to this Christian radio station, it is a good solid fundamental teaching station that has good people on it. Anyway, this lady Jan has this program and she is right on the scriptures except that she believes in the false pre-trib rapture. She has this fellow on the program who is speaking in passionate heavy tones about how only the pre-trib rapture is in the bible and it is the only one that is true. You know folks, I realize that messed up people who profess Christ as Savior can and will teach and promote some ridiculous things, however we are living in the time when true believers have rejected truth and accepted doctrines of demons, fables, stories that are make up and not even found in the bible. It is my personal belief that these people are under a deceiving spirit so that up looks down, and north looks south. They really believe what does not exist except in their imagination. For crying out loud, there is no such thing as a pre-trib rapture even in the bible, you can look up pre-trib rapture in the encyclopedia and it will tell you that it was created by John Darby around 1830, why he made it up, and how he spread it around, the evidence is overwhelming that this is a false teaching...why do good Christian folks keep hanging on to something that is so false it is laughable?

I know that what you say is right. The bad thing about it is, that if a person follows teaching, they may well end up losing all faith. When they find they are still here, and face the things we all know are coming. For a teaching to pass muster, it must be in line with the Whole of the WORD. We have read how HaShem keep the people of Israel, from the plagues in Egypt. So why is it so hard to see that He can do the same for us? Does He not tell us that He has prepared a place for the women in wilderness where He will care for her?
Rev 12:6

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where God had prepared a place to care for her for 1,260 days.

Is this women not the church? Please by all means read that in context before you answer.

 

[RickyZ]

There are those who believe that they will not have their faith tested and will not be prepared for what is to come. Do you think it is important to help your fellow brothers and sisters to be prepared or let them sit on a false security?

And that is why Jesus clearly said that in those days many will turn away from Him... because they didn't think they would see it and therefore were not prepared to stand!