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You are talking about the original scrolls and what the say, yet now you are saying you don't have them.

In other words you are just making it up as you go along. I hope your weird cult doesn't have many members.
No I am not making it up,it is what was revealed in the book of Revelation, the 7 thunderings that were sealed. It was also revealed in Rev 11, and as I've already explained, in the fact that Saul Paul says one thing, and then another that is not in agreement. It is also revealed in his own writings, telling Timothy not to forget the parchments. When you discover who the Harlot is, you will know who has the originals.

It's clear that people will not believe here. It's because first of all, they are not seeking the kingdom, and second of all, for what reason should I be believed, since many of you do not even know that there is the restorer of all things.

Therefore, you should seek and discover it for yourself, then you will know it without having to believe someone else.
 

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Can you point me to a place where saul paul said the same things that HE said?
Sure. Jesus said the Holy Spirit would teach believers all things. Paul said the Holy Spirit was teachimg him,

we speak the wisdom of God, hidden in a mystery....God has revealed these to us by the Spirit 1Cor.2:7,10

Ok?
 

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regarding the time the GOD put him to sleep to take a rib from his body.
what about the time Abraham tried to shoo away birds until God put him in a deep sleep and Himself passed between the parts, sealing the covenant of promise?
 
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what about the time Abraham tried to shoo away birds until God put him in a deep sleep and Himself passed between the parts, sealing the covenant of promise?
Wonderful question. This is a similitude. You may have read about similitudes in the bible. What it means is that Abraham, called the Father of Many, was in the shoes of Father Adam, who is the father of the Mankind Race. There are other diginitaries in the shoes of the Father Adam. Samson, King David, Job are all in the similtiudes of Father Adam.

That deep sleep, where Abraham saw that is people would be slaves in Egypt for 400 years, was pointing to Father Adam, who knew the LOGOS of GOD, who saw his bride while in a deep sleep. The Bride is the church. And the proof is, that when he awoke from his deep sleep, and he saw Mother Eve, he did not ask her where she came from. Rather, he Prophesied saying: This is bone of my bone, and flesh of my flesh. She shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man. And he also said to her: Thou shalt be called eve because thou art the mother of all the living. This is where Father Adam Prophesied that they would begin procreation.

Here is my question for you to answer: How did Adam know who Eve was, and even that she was taken from his body, if he was in deep sleep?
 
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Sure. Jesus said the Holy Spirit would teach believers all things. Paul said the Holy Spirit was teachimg him,

we speak the wisdom of God, hidden in a mystery....God has revealed these to us by the Spirit 1Cor.2:7,10

Ok?
Then why did he call 1 Cor 15 :50-56 a mystery? This revealed that it is a mystery to him. If GOD was speaking to him, would he not have known this in details? How shall we all be changed? And he said not all will die, but in Hebrews he said every man must die. Yet, Enoch and Elijah were changed, they were transfigured in life, without dying at all. How did they do it?

Then in Rev 10:7, it is written:
When the 7th trumpet shall begin to sound, the mystery of GOD shall be finished...

It is the 7th Angel of the 7th Church that will finish the mystery, which reveals that saul paul didn't. So how is it the Most Holy Spirit that led saul paul into all truth?
 

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In that bible, saul paul said that it is appointed unto man once to die, and then the judgement.

yet, in 1 Cor 15, he says: Behold we shall not all sleep...

How do you explain this?

and my second question... Who was the Prophet that led them to put the bible together, to include, and reject books based on the assumption that they are not Holy Spirit Inspired? And who was it that Jesus His Pre-Eminence charged with putting the bible together?
Who has given these people the authority, to decide what is biblical, and to translate the Gospel many times, to the point that we now have Literal version.

If you can answer these questions, backed up by the Law, the Word and the Prophets, I will agree with you..
The bible uses ' sleep ' for believers.
 
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Why do you think they said ' sleep ' instead of ' died ' ?
Because its pointing to the children of the kingdom, that is the Spirit Being of the person programed in the soul, that is immortal and cannot die. While the physical body that is mortal dies, the Spirit Being programmed in the soul cannot die. So it was called sleep, because those that detatched from their physical body (died) shall be resurrected at the first, or second resurrection. And what is resurrected, is the physical body, not the Spirit Being of the person.

And the reason why it was called sleep, is because it is pointing to the state of the person, where the person as a ghost in a sub conscious state. This is the same as when we sleep. It is not until the person has their physical body, that they are in a concious state.

Spirit Being without the soul is in an unconscious state.
Spirit Being programmed in the soul is in a sub conscious state (this is when the person has become a ghost and goes to Abrahams Bosom to await resurrection)
And the Spirit Being, programmed in the soul and immsered or baptized into the physical body is in a conscious state.

That is why Jesus His Pre-Eminence, who is the GOD of Creation, called death, sleep.
 

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John 14: 25-26
25These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

This is what Jesus His Pre-Eminence said about the comforter, who HE called the Holy Ghost, and that he will bring all things to your rememberance, whatsoever HE has said to you. Jesus His Pre-Eminence preached the Gospel of the kingdom, the Gospel of Ever Lasting Life. HIS messages are so wonderful, yet they are coded. They are spoken in parables to conceal the mysteries of the kingdom.

If it is true that the comforter mentioned here, is the Most Holy Spirit of GOD, then why do you look to Saul pauls writings for guidance? Do you know the Gospel that Jesus His Pre-Eminence preached?

HE said: 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Do you know noah was called comfort?

Gen 5
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed.

Have you really looked into what Jesus His Pre-Eminence preached? Do you know the mysteries of the kingdom? Have you really seeked the kingdom?
Rejecting Paul today is the equivalent of rejecting Moses back then .
 
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Rejecting Paul today is the equivalent of rejecting Moses back then .
No it isn't. And this is the error of the church, because they rejected the gospel. Moses is the Law, Elijah is the Prophet, Saul paul is neither...
 

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No it isn't. And this is the error of the church, because they rejected the gospel. Moses is the Law, Elijah is the Prophet, Saul paul is neither...
Then your are lost without Jesus s teachings to Paul .
 

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Verily, verily, I say unto you, that you shall not enter the kingdom except thy righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees.
Let's apply the observation questions.
Who ,what, where, when , why , what .
1) who is Jesus speaking to ?
2) what is he speaking about ?
3) Where ?
4) When ? Is it under the law ? Is it before the cross ect
ect ,ect

This applys to writers intent , Central theme of the text. Who's the intended audience ect
 
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Let's apply the observation questions.
Who ,what, where, when , why , what .
1) who is Jesus speaking to ?
2) what is he speaking about ?
3) Where ?
4) When ? Is it under the law ? Is it before the cross ect
ect ,ect

This applys to writers intent , Central theme of the text. Who's the intended audience ect
Lets look at what was written, Saul paul is a pharisee.
 

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Verily, verily, I say unto you, that you shall not enter the kingdom except thy righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees.
Let's apply the observation questions.
Who ,what, where, when , why , what .
1) who is Jesus speaking to ?
2) what is he speaking about ?
3) Where ?
4) When ? Is it under the law ? Is it before the cross ect
ect ,ect

This applys to writers intent , Central theme of the text. Who's the intended audience ect

So with this in mind let's look at the text .
Verily, verily, I say unto you, that you shall not enter the kingdom except thy righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees.

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Verily, verily, I say unto you, that you shall not enter the kingdom except thy righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees.
So who is Jesus speaking to?
20For I say unto YOU , That except YOUR righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees,YE shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.