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16 places in the N.T where Hell is listed and tied to fire, destruction, torment and warning...so if you guys choose to reject these you say at least three things....
1. Jesus was ignorant and didn't know what he was talking about
2, The other men who wrote of it were not inspired
3. By number two above you call God a liar as he testifies of INSPIRATION and the MEN who wrote the scriptures
To ignore, trivialize away and to reject the above truths prove that you are not being honest with the scriptures and are indeed following fables and lies...so...keep rejecting the word...doesn't matter to me.....!
1. Jesus was ignorant and didn't know what he was talking about
2, The other men who wrote of it were not inspired
3. By number two above you call God a liar as he testifies of INSPIRATION and the MEN who wrote the scriptures
To ignore, trivialize away and to reject the above truths prove that you are not being honest with the scriptures and are indeed following fables and lies...so...keep rejecting the word...doesn't matter to me.....!
I guess if Lazarus and the rich man is a actual event then only poor beggars go heaven and the rich suffer in torment. Funny thing is Jesus didn't even say if Lazarus was believer or not, nor the rich man for that matter. I guess everyone needs to sell everything they have and find a corner on which to beg.
Boy this comment shows biblical maturity for sure.....blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven and woe unto the rich for they have their reward......
Really dude......!
Not to mention the fact that actual parables did not CONTAIN the actual NAMES of men......! Show me where it says before Luke 16 and the LAZARUS/RICH MAN event where he said...and he spake a parable unto them........!
Really dude......!
Not to mention the fact that actual parables did not CONTAIN the actual NAMES of men......! Show me where it says before Luke 16 and the LAZARUS/RICH MAN event where he said...and he spake a parable unto them........!
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Why don't you present those 16 passages one at a time and we can address them?
I could say the same thing about presenting Lazarus and the rich man as proof that people suffer ECT. Jesus told us where the wicked will be burned, it's Gehenna. Yet, in the story of Lazarus and the rich man, the rich man is in Hades. surely Jesus knows the difference, so say the rich man is suffering ECT make Jesus' statements contradictory. Since we know they are not contradictory, the only conclusion is that the rich man was not suffering ECT.
I could say the same thing about presenting Lazarus and the rich man as proof that people suffer ECT. Jesus told us where the wicked will be burned, it's Gehenna. Yet, in the story of Lazarus and the rich man, the rich man is in Hades. surely Jesus knows the difference, so say the rich man is suffering ECT make Jesus' statements contradictory. Since we know they are not contradictory, the only conclusion is that the rich man was not suffering ECT.
An argument from silence is a logical fallacy. However, you could address the evidence that has been presented. Why is the rich man in Hades? Why is Lazarus in Abraham's bosom? Where in this passage does it say that the rich man will burn forever.
For that matter where does it say anywhere in Scripture that people will burn forever?
For that matter where does it say anywhere in Scripture that people will burn forever?
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Heya guys, brothers? Title of this thread is something the devil likes and keeps his tricks trying to treat people to his ways of destruction. A lot of people don't believe a devil exists, or demons, or he'll for that matter. Even the pope know it does and believe in exorcism. The point here is this. There is a devil and a place called hell. There would of been no reason for Christ to show up on this earth, but there was he loved us and dosnt want us to end there. Go yo any mental hospital or insane asylum and those people are possessed. Mant have tried to kill others or themselves, there is no sanity or soundness in those who are demon possessed,especially no love. At this time of when satanists are taking life either animal or humans there is no respect for life since God is the creator of it back in Genesis. Satan fills mans hearts with envy jealousy lies slander as we well know his character and the scripture that Satan is the accuser of the brethren he accuses those who want to live godly. Rev. 12;10 Says that That Satan is the accuser he is the slanderer, and let's not forget that the power of our Lord and savior Yeshus the Anointed one will destroy those who fight against us as it is written he destroys the wicked and they shall be no more. I know this ver well what it says and had written this in many many of my posts here. We don't fight against flesh and blood it says vengeance belong etch to the Lord and he does his job without our human help. Just a reminder that he causes division among the brethren and does not believe in forgiveness for there is no love in him how could there be, only God is love sinne then he has rejected Jesus as Lord and exalted himself don't be divided here. Praise him 
Heya guys, brothers? Title of this thread is something the devil likes and keeps his tricks trying to treat people to his ways of destruction. A lot of people don't believe a devil exists, or demons, or he'll for that matter. Even the pope know it does and believe in exorcism. The point here is this. There is a devil and a place called hell. There would of been no reason for Christ to show up on this earth, but there was he loved us and dosnt want us to end there. Go yo any mental hospital or insane asylum and those people are possessed. Mant have tried to kill others or themselves, there is no sanity or soundness in those who are demon possessed,especially no love. At this time of when satanists are taking life either animal or humans there is no respect for life since God is the creator of it back in Genesis. Satan fills mans hearts with envy jealousy lies slander as we well know his character and the scripture that Satan is the accuser of the brethren he accuses those who want to live godly. Rev. 12;10 Says that That Satan is the accuser he is the slanderer, and let's not forget that the power of our Lord and savior Yeshus the Anointed one will destroy those who fight against us as it is written he destroys the wicked and they shall be no more. I know this ver well what it says and had written this in many many of my posts here. We don't fight against flesh and blood it says vengeance belong etch to the Lord and he does his job without our human help. Just a reminder that he causes division among the brethren and does not believe in forgiveness for there is no love in him how could there be, only God is love sinne then he has rejected Jesus as Lord and exalted himself don't be divided here. Praise him