Hermeneutics: Interpreting Scripture

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posthuman

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It certainly seems to compare to allowing men to choose. I guess some of the discussion has been whether or not having to let them go can include assisting them to go where they want to go.
my intuition -- thinking of what is good hermeneutic vs poor, yay, on thread topic hahaha - - is to immediately ask, do we see this behavior in the Bible, and then, if we do, collect every OT and NT reference together, lay them all out on the table like puzzle pieces, and start looking for patterns.

one of the first things coming to mind is Judas.
do we see evidence Christ actively tried and failed to convert Him?
"have I not chosen you, and one of you is a devil?"
"what you have to do, do quickly"

:coffee::unsure:
 

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one of the first things coming to mind is Judas.
do we see evidence Christ actively tried and failed to convert Him?
"have I not chosen you, and one of you is a devil?"
"what you have to do, do quickly"

:coffee::unsure:

@studier i notice you questioned @GWH over his usage of the novel term 'omnilove' - - i looked over this, but it's a fair point. those who went before us recognize three 'omnis' concerning God: omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence.

my reasoning was that i have no argument with 'God is love' - - i suspected rather that our friends in the discussion are using their personal, human ideas about love, rather than letting the scripture inform us what true love is.

what is worth investigating is whether God, in His love, patiently allows those who hate Him to go on hating Him, or if He actively frustrates their efforts to hate Him at every step. i think in the case of Judas that's clear: He did not seek to prevent him.

Revelation 22:11​
He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.
 

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Biased towards what you deem right reasoning.

God is ruling a creation of good and bad. He desires the good but has allowed the bad and allows men to choose good and bad. Based upon who He is He must deal with the bad as well as the good.

Earlier I said I think you're unbalancing perfectly balanced divine essence.

Now I think you're inserting desire where it does not belong and thereby creating the illogical conclusion:
  • Where does it say or who has said that Jesus did not desire people to LGW so He taught in parables?
    • There is also a subtle nuance of this that can be discussed.
Or you're misconstruing the interaction of desire and attributes, and thereby creating the illogical conclusion.
  • Because He is Righteous and Just and is dealing with bad, with sin, it His will/desire to display His wrath (Rom9:22), meaning His will is in conformance to the outworking of His attributes. Paul is dealing with this in the same context of His hardening of Pharaoh and of the Potter and the Clay.
  • Jesus can will that all LGW while at the same time submitting to what He sees the Father doing and thereby to the Father's will to do what provides greater understanding to those who have not closed their eyes and simultaneously what does not provide understanding to those who have closed their eyes.
I'd like to explain this better, but I think you're creating a faulty premise and trying to reach a logical conclusion.
Re "Biased towards what you deem right reasoning.": You are equally such, but logical thinking is not a bad bias.

Re "Where does it say or who has said that Jesus did not desire people to LGW so He taught in parables?": Not I.

Jesus agrees with God's will--and so do I!
 

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Re "Biased towards what you deem right reasoning.": You are equally such, but logical thinking is not a bad bias.

Re "Where does it say or who has said that Jesus did not desire people to LGW so He taught in parables?": Not I.

Jesus agrees with God's will--and so do I!
Looks to me like you've conceded the point. We Christians all desire all men to be saved. We all desire all men to LGW. We know some men will choose not to be saved and will not LGW. We desire God deal with them according to His perfect will according to His Perfect Righteousness and Justice and harden them and judge them accordingly as it is clear from His Word this is what He does. We all desire to have what God desires - a land where righteousness dwells. We trust Him for this telos.
 

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@studier i notice you questioned @GWH over his usage of the novel term 'omnilove' - - i looked over this, but it's a fair point. those who went before us recognize three 'omnis' concerning God: omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence.

my reasoning was that i have no argument with 'God is love' - - i suspected rather that our friends in the discussion are using their personal, human ideas about love, rather than letting the scripture inform us what true love is.

what is worth investigating is whether God, in His love, patiently allows those who hate Him to go on hating Him, or if He actively frustrates their efforts to hate Him at every step. i think in the case of Judas that's clear: He did not seek to prevent him.

Revelation 22:11​
He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.

I get the application but think we need to be careful with such things. Here are a couple more "God is" statements:
For our God is a consuming fire (Heb. 12:29- NKJ) - the verb is elided which could even be intensifying this statement.​

God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. (1 Jn. 1:5 NKJ)​
These are just a few but enough to ask how many "omnis" do we want to start making up? With just these 2 we can balance the omnilove with omnilight & omnijustice. We can go back and say He's omnijealous, etc... And maybe we have to do this because inserting omnilove requires some balance, so we don't start forgetting His other attributes. As you mention, so we don't misunderstand His love.

Your Rev22:11 mention is a good one which I was going to repeat from you elsewhere, so now am doing so.
 

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Interpretation is simply hearing God reveal the hidden truth.

On this forum however, interpretation is how one personally believes.
 

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I get the application but think we need to be careful with such things. Here are a couple more "God is" statements:
For our God is a consuming fire (Heb. 12:29- NKJ) - the verb is elided which could even be intensifying this statement.​

God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. (1 Jn. 1:5 NKJ)​
These are just a few but enough to ask how many "omnis" do we want to start making up? With just these 2 we can balance the omnilove with omnilight & omnijustice. We can go back and say He's omnijealous, etc... And maybe we have to do this because inserting omnilove requires some balance, so we don't start forgetting His other attributes. As you mention, so we don't misunderstand His love.

Your Rev22:11 mention is a good one which I was going to repeat from you elsewhere, so now am doing so.

Actually, there is scriptural justification for affirming God as omnitemporatl, omnilove, omnilight/truth and omnijustness/fire:

3. Omnipotence is connected with omnitemporality (in RV 1:18): “I am the Apha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” Romans 1:20 refers to God’s “eternal power”, and Jeremiah 10:10&16 names God “the Lord Almighty”, who is true, living and eternal.

In addition to the omni-attributes related to power, Paul referred to God’s “nature” (in RM 1:20), which may be described in three ways: love, truth and justice. These often are called the moral attributes of God.

5. The Bible says that God is love and true love comes from God (1JN 4:7-21, RM 5:5), so volitional creatures or souls can love only by reflecting, imitating or cooperating with the Creator’s love. Although the Bible speaks of God hating Esau (ML 1:3) and other evil people (HS 9:15), Jesus’ teaching of love for enemies (MT 5:44) reveals that God loves all creatures including Satan but hates their sinful choices.

It seems logical to assume that the all-loving God would create the best possible world or one in which the greatest percentage of persons may attain ultimate joy (1TM 2:3-4, 2PT 3:9). God may have created all possible kinds of worlds simultaneously: the world of dead matter, the world of living plants, the world of intelligent animals, and the world of morally accountable souls/humans. God’s world/way is best.

6. The Bible teaches that God is truth (JN 1:17, 8:40, 15:26, 17:17), so all truth is from God and manifests God’s Spirit. If any atheists are truthseekers, then they are not far from the kingdom of God (MK 12:34, 2THS 2:10, JN 18:37), because Jesus promised that those who seek will find (LK 11:9&13). Of course, if the truth is that there is no God or heaven, then what we believe is no more significant than the ideology of a rock or some other evolved collection of atoms (ECC 3:20)! Truth or God’s Word is represented in the Bible as light (JN 1:1-9), which also signifies God’s glory (LK 2:9).

7. The Bible also teaches that God is justness or righteousness (RM 3:25-26, 9:14, 2THS 1:6). This doctrine is called theodicy. It means that we should be careful lest our explanations of God’s will seem unloving or unfair. If a person cannot explain how a loving God could order the execution of babies (JSH 6:17, 8:2), then possibly He did not do so. Another synonym for justness is goodness (IS 5:16).

Atheists have a negative or evil conception of God, which may be caused or reinforced by the words and deeds of those who claim to be theists (RM 2:24, 2PT 2:2). Who would want to believe in such a God? Rather than reject a caricature of God, an atheist should imagine the most perfect, loving and just God that he/she can, and choose to disbelieve in that benevolent Being, if good reason to do so can be found. God is NOT demonic!

What a person believes about the moral attributes of God affects how he or she interprets God’s Word in the Bible, which is called “hermeneutics”.
 

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Title, Post #, Scripture - The Parable of the (Hidden) Treasure (#146), MT 13:44

Meaning – field = world, man = soul seeking salvation, treasure = KOH/salvation; Learning how to be saved is worth every earthly thing.

Purpose – (unstated but per v.34-35) To fulfill PS 78:2 re parables used to reveal what has been hidden, which is the Gospel per TOP #2 (God offers salvation to the Gentiles, cf. ACTS 13:47, IS 49:6, EPH 3:1-9).

Interpretation(s):

1. Jesus did not want some souls to find the hidden treasure and understand that salvation is more valuable than material wealth.

2. Jesus hoped that everyone would find the hidden treasure and value salvation more than material wealth.


Title, Post #, Scripture - The Parable of the Pearl (#146), MT 13:45

Meaning – pearls = teachings, merchant = soul seeking best teaching, pearl of great value = God’s teaching re His POS.

Purpose – (per v.34-35) To fulfill PS 78:2 re parables used to reveal what has been hidden.

Interpretation(s): Same as in the Parable of the Treasure.
 

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Actually, there is scriptural justification for affirming God as omnitemporatl, omnilove, omnilight/truth and omnijustness/fire:

3. Omnipotence is connected with omnitemporality (in RV 1:18): “I am the Apha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” Romans 1:20 refers to God’s “eternal power”, and Jeremiah 10:10&16 names God “the Lord Almighty”, who is true, living and eternal.

In addition to the omni-attributes related to power, Paul referred to God’s “nature” (in RM 1:20), which may be described in three ways: love, truth and justice. These often are called the moral attributes of God.

5. The Bible says that God is love and true love comes from God (1JN 4:7-21, RM 5:5), so volitional creatures or souls can love only by reflecting, imitating or cooperating with the Creator’s love. Although the Bible speaks of God hating Esau (ML 1:3) and other evil people (HS 9:15), Jesus’ teaching of love for enemies (MT 5:44) reveals that God loves all creatures including Satan but hates their sinful choices.

It seems logical to assume that the all-loving God would create the best possible world or one in which the greatest percentage of persons may attain ultimate joy (1TM 2:3-4, 2PT 3:9). God may have created all possible kinds of worlds simultaneously: the world of dead matter, the world of living plants, the world of intelligent animals, and the world of morally accountable souls/humans. God’s world/way is best.

6. The Bible teaches that God is truth (JN 1:17, 8:40, 15:26, 17:17), so all truth is from God and manifests God’s Spirit. If any atheists are truthseekers, then they are not far from the kingdom of God (MK 12:34, 2THS 2:10, JN 18:37), because Jesus promised that those who seek will find (LK 11:9&13). Of course, if the truth is that there is no God or heaven, then what we believe is no more significant than the ideology of a rock or some other evolved collection of atoms (ECC 3:20)! Truth or God’s Word is represented in the Bible as light (JN 1:1-9), which also signifies God’s glory (LK 2:9).

7. The Bible also teaches that God is justness or righteousness (RM 3:25-26, 9:14, 2THS 1:6). This doctrine is called theodicy. It means that we should be careful lest our explanations of God’s will seem unloving or unfair. If a person cannot explain how a loving God could order the execution of babies (JSH 6:17, 8:2), then possibly He did not do so. Another synonym for justness is goodness (IS 5:16).

Atheists have a negative or evil conception of God, which may be caused or reinforced by the words and deeds of those who claim to be theists (RM 2:24, 2PT 2:2). Who would want to believe in such a God? Rather than reject a caricature of God, an atheist should imagine the most perfect, loving and just God that he/she can, and choose to disbelieve in that benevolent Being, if good reason to do so can be found. God is NOT demonic!

What a person believes about the moral attributes of God affects how he or she interprets God’s Word in the Bible, which is called “hermeneutics”.
Then I think you should consider all the omni's when you consider the purposes for parables. It's not just omnilove.
 

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Title, Post #, Scripture - The Parable of the Net (#146), MT 13:47-50

Meaning – net = judgment (per v.49), lake = world, fishermen = angels (per v.49), fish = souls; At the Judgment saved souls will be kept, but unsaved souls will be cast into hell. This is the same meaning as the Parable of the Weeds but substituting fish.

Purpose – (per v.34-35) To fulfill PS 78:2 re parables used to reveal what has been hidden, perhaps especially regarding the Judgment.

Interpretation(s): 1 & 2. Same as for the Parable of the Seeds & Weeds, with #2 applying Scriptures (MT 23:37, MT 22:39, JN 3:16, RM 5:6-8, 1TM 2:3-4) teaching that God/Jesus loves everyone to view parables as a means of pre-sifting souls (before Judgement Day) according to who would understand/believe or not, and lamenting that many would not.

Note that the fourth simile in v.52 (a teacher of the law who becomes a disciple in the KOH is like a homeowner who has both old and new treasures in his storeroom) is stated as a conclusion derived from the preceding parable(s) rather than as a new parable.


Title, Post #, Scripture - The Parable of the Lost Sheep (#177), MT 18:10-14

Meaning – sheep = believers in Jesus (per v.10), man = Jesus, stray = in danger of becoming lost; God does not desire for any saved soul to perish (which would be via apostasy per HB 6:4-6).

Purpose – Unstated but presumably the same as in MT 13:34-35, to fulfill PS 78:2 re parables used to reveal what has been hidden.

Interpretation(s): Similar to the preceding parables, but relevant or applied only to believers.
 

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Title, Post #, Scripture - The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant (#183), MT 18:21-35

Meaning – king = God, servants = souls who claim to believe, bags of gold = what is owed, canceling the debt = forgiveness or mercy, prison = punishment or hell; God desires believers to be merciful without abetting sin, so unforgiveness by souls claiming to be Christians may indicate lack of saving faith.

Purpose – Unstated but presumably (per v. 21) to answer the question of Peter regarding how many times believers should forgive their fellow believers

Interpretation(s):

1. Unstated, but perhaps Jesus did not want some believers to understand his parable.

2. Jesus wanted all believers to realize that following Jesus is manifested by obeying his command to love one another (per MT 5:7, 6:14-15 & 7:21). The punishment of torture until the debt is repaid sounds like hell.
 

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Title, Post #, Scripture - The Parable of the Workers (#187), MT 20:1-16

Meaning – landowner = God, workers = souls who claim to be servants, vineyard = world, wages = heaven, day = duration of life, times = moments of conversion; Saved souls will be rewarded with the same heaven.

Purpose – Unstated, but saying the first = the last (v.30) teaches equality in heaven.

Interpretation(s):

1. Perhaps Jesus did not want some believers to understand.

2. Jesus probably wanted all believers to learn not to envy or compete for status.


Title, Post #, Scripture – The Parable of the Two Sons (#197), MT 21:28-32

Meaning – man = God, sons = Jewish leaders (per v.23), vineyard = world, tax collectors & prostitutes = sinners who repent (per v.31); Repentant sinners will be saved or inherit the KOG as righteous sons.

Purpose – Apparently to teach who qualifies for heaven or satisfies GRFS.

Interpretation(s):

1. Perhaps Jesus did not want some of the priests and elders to understand and repent.

2. Jesus probably wanted all of the Jewish leaders to understand and repent.
 

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Title, Post#, Scripture - The Parable of the Tenants, (#110), MT 21:33-46

Meaning – landowner = God, vineyard = world, tenant farmers = Jewish leaders, fruit = folks who repent and accept Christ, servants = prophets or angels, son/stone = Jesus; Anti-Christians will have a wretched end (per v.41) or be refused entry into the KOH and be crushed (per v.43-44).

Purpose – Apparently the same as for the Parable of the Two Sons, although v.45 says “when the chief priests and the Pharisees heard Jesus' parables, they knew he was talking about them, so they looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the people, because they believed he was a prophet.”

Intepretation(s): The same as for the Parable of the Two Sons


Title, Post #, Scripture - The Parable of the Wedding Banquet, (#212), MT 22:1-14

Meaning – king = God, wedding banquet = heaven, invitees = Jewish leaders, servants = prophets, army = angels, street people = sinners including Gentiles, guests = those who repent and believe, man without proper clothes = fake convert manifested by wrong fruit, darkness = hell; Many/all are invited to be saved, but few accept or cooperate with GRFS.

Purpose – Apparently the same as for the previous two parables about the Jewish leaders.

Interpretation(s):

1. The same as for the previous two parables.

2. The same as for the previous two parables, which is why the Pharisees plotted to entrap Jesus (per v. 15).
 

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Title, Post #, Scripture - The Parable of the Ten Virgins (#219), MT 25:1-13.

Meaning – virgins = invitees, lamps = faith, oil = HS, bridegroom = Jesus, wedding banquet = heaven, door = entryway; Be ready for the Judgment (per v.13) by having saving faith in Jesus that cooperates with God’s will or manifests the fruit of God's Spirit.

Purpose – Seems to apply to all who claim to believe in God/Jesus.

Interpretation(s): 1. The same as previous. 2. The same but applied to all who claim to believe.


Title, Post #, Scripture - The Parable of the Talents/Bags of Gold (#246), MT 25:14-30

Meaning – rich man = God, servants = seekers, theists & Christians, talents/bags of gold = God’s word/will, master’s happiness = heaven, interest = good works, outside = hell; Faith not followed by works is false or not salvific.

Purpose – same as for the Parable of the Virgins.

Interpretation(s): Same as for the Virgins, but it may indicate the basis of God's just judgment.
 

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Summary of the Parables in Matthew

[#250, 116] 1. The...Seeds, MT 13:1-23:

Meaning - He who believes in Jesus and cooperates with GW/HS is saved.
Purpose - to fulfill IS 6:9-10 per v.13-14 & PS 78:2 per v.34-35.
Interpretation - Either Jesus wanted to conceal/hide GW/GRFS from some, or (applying GW re divine love for all, cf. #4) Jesus pre-sifted souls, lamenting that some would not hear/understand. The latter view is supported by HB 4:7b, “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts.”

[#252, 122] 2. The...Weeds, MT 13:24-30:

Meaning – Saved souls will be separated from evil souls at the Judgment (end of the age), when those who are of the devil will be cast into hell. Purpose – same as for the Seeds. Interpretation - to conceal to some or to reveal to all what was hidden re Judgment.

[#253] 3. The...Mustard Seed, MT 13:31-32:

Meaning – the KOH will fill (& salt per MT 5:13-16) the world. Purpose – The same as for previous parables.
Interpretation
– to conceal or reveal God’s “catholicism” or desire for everyone in the world to cooperate with His Gospel/POS.

[#253] 4. The...Yeast, MT 13:33: Meaning – same as Mustard; the KOH will fill the world (because God loves everyone per MT 5:44&48, JN 3:16, RM 5:6-8 & 1TM 2:3-4). Purpose - same as Mustard. Interpretation – conceal or reveal God’s “catholic” love and desire.

[#268, 146] 5. The...Treasure, MT 13:44: Meaning – the KOH is most valuable “possession”. Purpose – Ditto.
Interpretation – conceal or reveal this truth.

[#268, 146] 6. The...Pearl, MT 13:45: Meaning – same as the Treasure. Purpose – ditto. Interpretation – same as the Treasure.

[#270, 146] 7. The...Net, MT 13:47-50: Meaning – same as the Weeds. Purpose – ditto. Interpretation – same as the Weeds.

[#270, 177] 8. The...Lost Sheep, MT 18:10-14: Meaning – God wants every believer not to stray (via apostasy per HB 6:4-6).
Purpose – ditto. Interpretation – Similar to previous but applied to believers, so perhaps “conceal” is not meant.

[#271, 183] 9. The...Unmerciful Servant, MT 18:21-35: Meaning – the sign of saving faith is mercy for spiritual brethren.
Purpose - ditto. Interpretation - the same as for the Lost Sheep.

[#272, 187] 10. The...Workers, MT 20:1-16: Meaning – believers should not envy or compete for status in heaven.
Purpose – ditto. Interpretation – ditto.

[#272, 197] 11. The...Two Sons, MT 21:28-32: Meaning – repentant sinners will inherit the KOG. Purpose – ditto.
Interpretation – Same as for #1&2, especially re pre-sifting.

[#273, 110] 12. The...Tenants, MT 21:33-46: Meaning – anti-Christians will not enter the KOH. Purpose – ditto.
Interpretation – same as for the Two Sons.

[#274, 219] 13. The...Virgins, MT 25:1-13: Meaning – readiness for Judgment is via faith & fruit. Purpose – ditto.
Interpretation – essentially the same as #11 & 12.

[#274, 246] 14. The...Talents, MT 25:14-30: Meaning – cooperate with GW as given or revealed. Purpose – ditto.
Interpretation – conceal or reveal the basis of divine just judgment.

Comments and/or corrections?
 

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The Doctrine of Parables

In order to develop a doctrine regarding the parables of Jesus, I led us in a systematic study that included every parable in the order they are recorded in the gospel of Mathew. The goal was to learn their meaning and purpose. The first parable was The Parable of the Seeds in MT 13:1-23, which set the stage for all of the others, so let us review it.

In this parable a farmer sowed seed on four types of soil: a path, rocky ground, thorny ground, and fertile soil--with appropriate results. Discerning the meaning involved understanding the metaphors that were used, most of which were explained by Jesus in v.18-23: seed = GW re the KOH, understands = believes, healed = saved, ears = normal adult souls, hear = be good seed. The apparent meaning of the parable per v. 9 is thus, “Let all accountable souls be allowed to hear and be saved.”

However, this meaning is made problematic by what Jesus told his disciples between relating the parable and then explaining its meaning (v.10-11) regarding his purpose of speaking in parables: “The knowledge of the secrets of the KOH has been given to you (disciples), but not to them (the rest of the people).” Jesus said (in v.14-15) the people fulfilled IS 6:9-10, which says in part, “you will be ever seeing but never perceiving, for this people’s heart has become calloused… Otherwise they might… turn, and I would heal them.” In v.12 Jesus said, “Whoever has will be given more... and whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them."

A person might interpret what Jesus said regarding the secrets to mean that he wanted them to remain unknown except by his disciples, but a few verses later in MT 13:34 it says that Jesus spoke in parables in order to fulfill “what was spoken through the prophet: I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter things hidden since the creation of the world”, which implies that he wants to share the secrets with the people.

Thus, unless these statements (MT 13:10-17 & 13:34-35) can be harmonized, one must choose between two contradictory interpretations: 1. Jesus purposefully hid knowledge from some while revealing it to others according to His will, or 2. Jesus allowed souls to reject saving knowledge or to accept it and be his disciples. Deciding which understanding to adopt necessitates considering the second parable of Jesus, The Parable of the Weeds in MT 13:24-30.

In this parable a man sowed wheat seeds in his field, but his enemy came while folks were sleeping and sowed weeds among the wheat. When it became apparent that the field was contaminated, the owner's servants asked whether they should pull up the weeds, and he told them to wait until the harvest, at which time the weeds should be burned and the wheat gathered into his barn.

Later in the privacy of a house Jesus explained the meaning of this parable, saying that the good seed was sown by the Son of Man, the field is the world, the good seed stands for those who belong to the kingdom, the weeds are those who belong to the evil one, the enemy who sowed the bad seed is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. At the end of the age the Son of Man will send angels to weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and everyone who does evil and throw them into the blazing furnace where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, while the righteous will shine in the kingdom of their Father. Jesus concluded by saying, "Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear."

The mention of Judgment and the opposite destinies of happiness or hell indicates that Jesus employed parables as a means of pre-sifting souls by showing who would understand/believe or not. Some people opine that God/Jesus causes people to believe or not, but notice that in MT 13:10-15 Jesus did NOT say that he prevents people from becoming his disciples or that he causes people's hearts to be calloused, so let us be careful not to pre-sift ourselves by projecting our own hatred onto the all-loving Christ. Understanding God/Christ to be all-loving is gained by searching the Scriptures for insight rather than implicitly accusing Jesus of hating his enemies, which borders on blasphemy against the loving Holy Spirit. The omnilove of Jesus is indicated by such Scriptures MT 23:37, in which Jesus lamented over Jerusalem’s lack of repentance or rejection of his preaching (cf. MT 22:39, JN 3:16, RM 5:6-8, 1TM 2:3-4).

We can see that deciding which understanding of the purpose of parables to adopt involves rejecting or accepting Scriptures teaching that God loves everyone, not only the elect or disciples of Jesus. Thus, the doctrine of parables is related to the doctrine of election as a subcategory. I choose to accept the teachings that God is omnilove or loves everyone and wants all to be saved but allows volition and thereby moral accountability to exist, so that souls may reject the Gospel and put faith in I-dolatry. I note that Jesus explained the Parable of the Seeds in plain language, and that the Parable of the Tenants passage indicated his enemies understood he was being critical of them.

Some folks cite EX 10:1 as relevant for understanding the doctrine of parables: "Then the Lord said to Moses, 'Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the heart of his officials so that I may perform these miraculous signs of mine among them... that you may know that I am the Lord.'" To them I would suggest the following:

1. God's hardening does not abrogate moral free will in a way that prevents anyone from being saved, but rather by this means God tweaks the river of history so that it flows in accordance with His Plan of Salvation, causing someone to be stubborn/obstinate without condemning them to hell for that reason.

2. OT writers did not distinguish between God's intentional and permissive wills very clearly, so that IS 6:10 says, "Make the heart of this people calloused... otherwise they might... understand with their hearts and turn [repent] and be healed", whereas when Jesus cited this passage in MT 13:15 he changed the wording to "For this people's heart has become calloused... otherwise they might... understand with their hearts and turn and I would heal them."

Amen. May all be healed!
 

GWH

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Well, the study of parables was interesting and I learned how it is related to the doctrine of election in some folk's minds.

Thanks to everyone who contributed, and I have updated my website with this information.

Any suggestions about another topic to study systematically rather than simply trade prooftexts?
 

GWH

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Would "the use of figurative language in Scripture" be an interesting topic to study systematically?
 

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It's a big study that must include things from the Hebrew mindset and take into account how Paul for example was chosen to work on integrating 2 vastly different cultures while also transitioning into the new Spiritual era.
 

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It's a big study that must include things from the Hebrew mindset and take into account how Paul for example was chosen to work on integrating 2 vastly different cultures while also transitioning into the new Spiritual era.
True. Perhaps we should limit the study to the NT and the OT passages to which they may refer, and of course we can merely mention the study of the parables that was just conducted.

A reason the topic might be edifying is because some people blithely say that the Bible is literally true and may be unaware that literal truth often is conveyed using figurative language, such as the ironic metaphor Jesus used in MT 11:14 and simile in 11:16-17, which seemed surprising to some folks.