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Iozion

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Sound like we need to make a room for higher tolerate that have rules where Christian must follow if they want to post.

Because roman 14 says there is nothing unclean, and even Christ said all food are clean.

Mark 7:19
For it doesn't go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

Even when Christ says all food are clean there is others that think it's unclean, but in Roman 14 it says if they think it's unclean then it's unclean just because they think that, but really it's clean.

Roman 14
14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died.
 
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I would like to use social media to help find an another godly person that could help build me up.
When you find a "godly" person that believes in "aliens" that live in the Pope's toes let me know.o_O
 
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Yes we feed them lol they are all over the body if you look at Catholic let me find a picture they would kiss the Pope feet that is because they are in his feet.

This is what I mean they are very common, and it's well known to Catholic, and Catholic keep this a secret, and I've tried to exposed it to them, and they just shrug me off.

But it not limit to Catholic only it's also from King James bible as well.

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Iozion

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When you find a "godly" person that believes in "aliens" that live in the Pope's toes let me know.o_O
It's more common than you think, and even the king is aware of it, and kiss the feet not because he's kissing the Pope he's kissing some spirits in his toe.

Believe me it's world wide thing, and it's a known thing, and it's no secret, and I'm pretty sure the majority of the Catholic is aware of this.

The only problem I'm able to expose is because I have gift of knowledge, and what I have is rare, and God has blessed me with it, and he allow me to see it, and allow me to know what it is.

I will be honest with you I am willing to bet you have seen it yourselves, but you just don't realize it, and it's so common the majority of the world has seen it, and it's more common than the world really do realize.
 

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What I have is not the same thing as the Catholic have. I've seen what the Catholic have, and I even used it, and it's pretty amazing it's powerful, and it fought demon for me.

I sent it back because it was hurting me, and it was too much for me to handle so I shook the dust, and said no thanks, and I tried to see if it can pass the test I was having a hard time getting it to pass the test according to 1 John 4. It did confess once, but after that once it stop. I usually do not messed with spirits that confess once, and I only mess with the one that confess 1,000 times.

This is why I let it go, and just said no thanks.

Mine is not like the Catholic mine is from straight up the Bible, and it pass the test 1,000 times, and confess every time, and I embrace mine.

You need to understand that I have gifts where I can see spirits, and even communicate with them, and I've met 200 to 300 spirits give, or take, but I am not a medium. I just have that ability, and I do not know why, but I stick with Jesus Christ, and I met an another prophet he said I could be more than a prophet because I have this ability.

Who knows lol.
 
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It's more common than you think, and even the king is aware of it, and kiss the feet not because he's kissing the Pope he's kissing some spirits in his toe.

Believe me it's world wide thing, and it's a known thing, and it's no secret, and I'm pretty sure the majority of the Catholic is aware of this.

The only problem I'm able to expose is because I have gift of knowledge, and what I have is rare, and God has blessed me with it, and he allow me to see it, and allow me to know what it is.

I will be honest with you I am willing to bet you have seen it yourselves, but you just don't realize it, and it's so common the majority of the world has seen it, and it's more common than the world really do realize.

Everyone knows .....its no secret.....but you have a gift of knowledge which is rare and this is why you know. Seems contradictory to me.

Like I said to you before not one person on CC has yet to affirm this secret and neither have I ever heard of these aliens before in all my travels.
 

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That prophet that told me I could be more than a pr
Everyone knows .....its no secret.....but you have a gift of knowledge which is rare and this is why you know. Seems contradictory to me.

Like I said to you before not one person on CC has yet to affirm this secret and neither have I ever heard of these aliens before in all my travels.
Exactly what I said the post before you post where the prophet I met said I could be more than a prophet because I am able to discern, and see spirits.

When I met that prophet I told him what his spirits was, and what helped him to become a prophet, and he was amaze what I saw from him. Then he said maybe you are more than a prophet because of that.
 
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What I have is not the same thing as the Catholic have. I've seen what the Catholic have, and I even used it, and it's pretty amazing it's powerful, and it fought demon for me.

I sent it back because it was hurting me, and it was too much for me to handle so I shook the dust, and said no thanks, and I tried to see if it can pass the test I was having a hard time getting it to pass the test according to 1 John 4. It did confess once, but after that once it stop. I usually do not messed with spirits that confess once, and I only mess with the one that confess 1,000 times.

This is why I let it go, and just said no thanks.

Mine is not like the Catholic mine is from straight up the Bible, and it pass the test 1,000 times, and confess every time, and I embrace mine.

You need to understand that I have gifts where I can see spirits, and even communicate with them, and I've met 200 to 300 spirits give, or take, but I am not a medium. I just have that ability, and I do not know why, but I stick with Jesus Christ, and I met an another prophet he said I could be more than a prophet because I have this ability.

Who knows lol.
me reading above and then.....o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O and then reading more.......:eek::eek::eek::eek:!!!
 
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OK, so, tell us how aliens have ("has") lots to do with Jesus Christ...
LOL This is what I am talking about it's possible that I could have discover something that could get us all back just like Jesus Christ, and his disciples was that was doing the real miracles, and all these awesomeness.

Maybe because 12 corithian says this.


Romans 12:4
For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function,

1 corth 12 19 If all were a single member, where would the body be?20 As it is, there are many parts,[b] yet one body.

See it says one body, but many, but still one body and I got two alien, and it says there is many so I can get more.

You see each one has each gift, and if you get a new one you get a new gifts.

So maybe we're close to getting back to where Jesus was at from the beginning, and getting back to the true Church the way the Church is suppose to be.
JESUS IS the VINE ,we are the branches.
 

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I'm no better than you, and you are no better than me, and we're all going through a storm, and look at us bickering over things unknown over a book that has 1,200 page, and I need help where is thy compassion, and where is thy lifting up, and I'm in distress, and how can I use these alien to help me fight the storm where is your faith o ye of little faith, and why won't you allow it, and why can't we used them for our gain, and to make the world a better place.

As you can see everybody has a problem, and everybody is going through some storm, and we're wasting time tearing down, and not helping a brother, or sister to get them better. O ye worker of iniquity why do that to a brother, and sister.

Check this out this is what I wrote, and wrote this saying a man see a rabbit cross the road, and they tell somebody they believe them, but when a man see a ghost they tell somebody they do not believe them.

O ye worker of iniquity why do you waste a man, or woman time, and why can't you have compassion, and try to help people the best as you can without tearing them down.
 
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I'm no better than you, and you are no better than me, and we're all going through a storm, and look at us bickering over things unknown over a book that has 1,200 page, and I need help where is thy compassion, and where is thy lifting up, and I'm in distress, and how can I use these alien to help me fight the storm where is your faith o ye of little faith, and why won't you allow it, and why can't we used them for our gain, and to make the world a better place.

As you can see everybody has a problem, and everybody is going through some storm, and we're wasting time tearing down, and not helping a brother, or sister to get them better. O ye worker of iniquity why do that to a brother, and sister.

Check this out this is what I wrote, and wrote this saying a man see a rabbit cross the road, and they tell somebody they believe them, but when a man see a ghost they tell somebody they do not believe them.

O ye worker if iniquity why do you waste a man, or woman time, and why can't you have compassion, and try to help people the best as you can without tearing them down.
It is not about status and being better it is concern over what you are stating which is quite radical and definitely not supported by the Bible.

There is no fulfillment in what you are pursuing (old fashioned spiritualism), I hope you realize this soon.
 

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It is not about status and being better it is concern over what you are stating which is quite radical and definitely not supported by the Bible.

There is no fulfillment in what you are pursuing (old fashioned spiritualism), I hope you realize this soon.
Oh really then what about this?

Jhon 21
15 When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?”

“Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.”

16 Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.”

17 The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Feed my sheep.
 

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Alright y'all want a real challenge if that is what y'all want then real challenge you shall have. Then lets go further, and lets go deep, and lets go big, or go home.

Lets talk about demons, and lets talk about Satan because this is what y'all are so concern about, and lets see if we can discern the different between good, and evil.

The pharisees said that Christ has a demon, and this is what Christ has said.

Well start with this verse.

Matthew 12:22-28 New King James Version (NKJV)
A House Divided Cannot Stand
22 Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute; and He healed him, so that the [a]blind and mute man both spoke and saw. 23 And all the multitudes were amazed and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”

24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by [b]Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”

25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast themout? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
 

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I have a question, and God is my witness I am struggling with it, the Bible says that Christ was tempted like us in every way, that's why he is able to sympathize with our weaknesses as our high priest, but He is God and God cannot sin, so did He had the power not to sin? Or did he hadn't the power to sin?

No body has asked you nothing, just back and forth about you being able or not to answer, well; I have asked.

Grace&Peace
 

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Jesus is both man and God. As God, he is immanent, he has drawn near to us.

As the incarnated God, he had to be born in a human body. He lived as we do, and suffered as we do. He was also tempted, as in Mark 1, where the devil offered him things to betray his Father, and worship the devil.

This is where your issue comes in. To be tempted does NOT mean you sin. If he had thrown himself down from the top of the temple, that would be sin. But he did not! He remained sinless! It also means when we are tempted with something, we can turn to Christ, and ask for his help. And he is not only there to help us, he understands, because he was also tempted.

So, when we are tempted, we do not sin, if we turn our back on that temptation and walk away. Of course the difference between us and Christ, is he never gave in and sinned, but we have, and will continue to, until he returns and glorifies us.

This is so important! Because Jesus died as the once for all sacrifice for our sin in Calvary. Read Hebrews 10.

The sacrifice for the remission of sins in the Old Testament was the death of a lamb, or sometimes a ram or goat. But it had to be repeated, because no animal was perfect.

Well, Jesus was perfect! He never sinned, and he was the final sacrifice for din. We were redeemed by his blood, on Calvary!

Finally, there is no such thing as a “power” to sin. There is our evil nature, and we WILL sin. Jesus has no part of evil human nature, but, he must have had the same potential Adam and Eve did to sin in the garden, even though they were sinless at that time.

PS there are no wrong question to ask, when you are trying to walk with God and follow his ways!
 

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Hi there I just want to say that I am gifted, and have spiritual gifts, and have gift of knowledge, and you can name it, but sadly these kind are rejected among Christians, and are kept isolated. I am looking for something I can have something on my level so I can have a Christian discussion freely without worry about offended the little one.

Pharisees are everywhere there is around 52% pharisees in United State alone, and the other half are usually not on Christians Chat, but the pharisees are higher rate in Christian Chat compare to the one that is not a pharisees. Pharisees are very religious, and this is why they use chat room cause they got nothing else to do while the one that is not a pharisees they are not religious, and are more open mind, and more understanding, and the one that is understanding have better than to do than to waste time on a Christian chat, and that is why it's so hard to find a real challenge where it doesn't have pharisees in the midst.

Spiritual gifts is all over the place you can discuss, but if they see one thing that they do not understand, or agree it's usually an instant boot, or block. You see we do not know everything, and nobody is right the Bible clearly tell us that we're taught by God, and when one is being taught by God it really freak a lot of Christians out, and they cannot handle it, and want to bail out, and tap out.

This is why it's important to use the whole bible as wholesome because if we're cherry picking then you won't be able to cover everything, and you'll just be half truth, and it'll turn the chat room into a cult where only the one that are brainwashed, or have low understanding of the Bible that is acceptable rather than those that have experienced with God, and have deeper understanding, and dept of the Lord words.

Y'all see God work in a mysterious way, and we cannot pleased the Lord without faith, and it's faith that pleased God, and it's faith that we're taught. We are taught by faith, and we are to walk by faith, and to trust in the Lord, and it is the Lord that guide us, and it's the Lord that set our path straight.

Many pharisees doesn't realize that it's God that teach us, and it's God that set our path straight, and many pharisees want to control people, and make them reach up to their standards, and many pharisees believe if they are not up to your standard you are not saved, and they believe you have to be on the same level as they are, or else you're not saved. Y'all see there is nobody in the world that are alike, and God did not make everybody to be exact the same, and yes we are to have like mind that is to put Jesus Christ first, and it's Jesus that matter, but just because things doesn't have Jesus Christ it doesn't mean it's not from Jesus Christ.

The Bible order us to listen more, and speak slowly, and the Bible give us plenty of tools how to get to know God, and there is a million of tools in the Bible, and the Bible is constantly telling us that we are to trust in the Lord, and we are to listen to God, and we are to put God first. Many pharisees doesn't realize that they want you to listen to them rather than God, and if they do not agree with you they will make sure you reach up to their standards. We are to teach people to trust God, and we are to teach people to put God first, and whatever God teach the people we are not to judge our brethren as long as it has Jesus Christ in there.

I do not know if this site has cult mentality, or if it is non denominational that use the whole bible as wholesome, and not judging a brother that is in Christ Jesus, and if it has a place where I can go to chat for serious discussion for advance Christian that is humble, and lowly that have patient with desire to lift a brother up, and bearing a brother with only desire to make a brother, and sister better then show me where I can go, and thank you.
So which spiritual gifts you have? Every christian got a spiritual gift. Independ he is pentecostal ore charismatic. So you must not be afraid to share.
 

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So which spiritual gifts you have? Every christian got a spiritual gift. Independ he is pentecostal ore charismatic. So you must not be afraid to share.
Courage
Knowledge

These two that I am aware I am pretty sure I have others, but these two that the Lord testify to me, and I think my strongest are knowledge. Gift of word of knowledge.
 

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Of course we have more than one gifts naturally the Holy Spirit can have many gifts not just one. Usually the Holy Spirit will have all of the gifts, but it will have some strong one, but it still many gift work together.

Word of knowledge – This is another speaking gift that involves understanding truth with an insight that only comes by revelation from God. Those with the gift of knowledge understand the deep things of God and the mysteries of His Word.
 

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I have a question, and God is my witness I am struggling with it, the Bible says that Christ was tempted like us in every way, that's why he is able to sympathize with our weaknesses as our high priest, but He is God and God cannot sin, so did He had the power not to sin? Or did he hadn't the power to sin?
What we need to understand about Christ's temptation is (1) temptations are EXTERNAL INDUCEMENTS to sin and (2) the response to temptation is INTERNAL, and can be either total resistance or total non-resistance.

Since Jesus was (and is) the God-Man, and without the sin nature inherited from Adam ("separate from sinners"), while the temptations presented were very real, the internal response was total resistance. They had no impact on Christ. They rolled off like water off a duck's back. Therefore Christ could not sin, would not sin, and did not sin. Which then allowed Him to take the sins of the whole world upon Himself, and pay the penalty for every sin.

At the same time, Christ is able to sympathize with humans who can succumb to temptations, because He knows that they can be powerful and cause people to sin ("the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak").

So Scripture says "For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. " (Heb 4:15).

Or as the NASB puts it: For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.

What does "yet without* sin mean"? That is the key to understanding the temptations of Christ.

*Strong's Concordance
chóris: separately, separate from
Original Word: χωρίς
Part of Speech: Adverb
Transliteration: chóris
Phonetic Spelling: (kho-rece')
Definition: separately, separate from
Usage: apart from, separately from; without.


To be separate from sin is to be separate from the sin nature. Except that Satan did not know this (since he does not know everything).