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Altair-786

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#61
Surely you know that the Bible is believed to have been written under Divine inspiration? Islam draws on Scripture, since Abraham was the father of Ishmael, whom Mohammed claimed as a forefather. (Whether that is true that Mohammed came from that line or not, I do not know.) Mohammed tried to put himself in the place of Jesus Christ, and equates himself with Jesus by calling Him a prophet and denying many things (such as the crucifixion and resurrection) that are in the very Scared book he says you should accept. Your book actually contradicts itself on that point, and Jesus is mentioned more often than Mohammed is. Also, Mohammed never heard from God. He was accosted by a jinn that he did not know who or what it was, and only later allowed his wife and another relative to convince him was the angel Gabriel. But verses had to be removed from the Qur'an because they were found to be Satanic in origin. Mohammed was deceived.
why are you telling me about the quran "your book" and comparing with the bible something i doubt


 
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atwhatcost

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#62
for a start, illegal occupation in the west bank n the siege on gaza
How is that illegal? Neither side owned that land in 1946. Since then, the Israelis own it. So much for unbiased news and knowing all about the country. lol

(I like you. You're fun.)
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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#63
wat proof is there that bible is even from God? hope this thread doesnt get me banned or sumthin
Ask yourself this: What proof is there that God exists?

The reason I say this, is because you must first answer the above before you can ask: Your question.

I hope it doesn't get you banned either. In fact, I wish/hope the admins re-invite those who have been banned (under conditions, of course).
 
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atwhatcost

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#64
so jesus died for all our sins, but for all humans or just guys who worship him cos they were brought up with christian belief or influenced by ppl around him/her
Holes getting deeper. I answered that one back on page one.
 
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Altair-786

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#65
People are the way they are because of their rebellion against God. But God loves us so much that He sent His own Self in the form of His Son (I know Islamists have a hard time with that one, but surely you should be able to acknowledge that a God Who created the universe out of nothing but His own will to do so can cause a virgin to conceive without the use of a man's seed?) to take the penalty for our sins. What you are calling hell is simply the resting place of the dead. It is four different words (Gehenna, Sheol, Tartarus, Hades) translated into one word, but all of them are simply a holding place until the judgment, and the dead know nothing. God is not a monster Who needs to torment or torture people for an eternity for refusing His offer of life extended through Jesus Christ. Life is found in Him and Him alone. If you reject the offer, you simply pass into the second death.

muslims would say christians and jews have rebelled against God, and then this jesus being son n dying for sins is a pagan belief added later when jesus message reached europe ... so really id rather trust non of them
 
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atwhatcost

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#66
Satan told him that, because Satan hates God's people.

so true, that satan spoke to me.. sometimes on watsapp, sometimes on fb, sometimes on skype... yeah for sure he told me that... and who said Israel are God's people lol arent they jews which basically r non believers for u guys
So, not so much interested in what we're saying as it is important to you to lay down every single silly excuse on your list, huh? The thought there is God has disappeared in you? Guess you didn't really care.

It was fun. You're not interested, so I just lost in interest in talking to you.

The hole is too deep now.
 
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Altair-786

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#67
Ask yourself this: What proof is there that God exists?

The reason I say this, is because you must first answer the above before you can ask: Your question.

I hope it doesn't get you banned either. In fact, I wish/hope the admins re-invite those who have been banned (under conditions, of course).

ok that is confusing, yeah theres no proof of God, and the bible isnt really proof its from God... if it really is than there would be more christians
 

Magenta

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why are you telling me about the quran "your book" and comparing with the bible something i doubt
So you believe more than you are even aware. You could do some homework on this, but nobody in your culture or religion will tell you the truth about these things, since speaking the truth about Mohammed is haram (blasphemy even) and punishable by death, as is leaving your religion, so you will not be supported by many in your quest for truth. Your religion teaches you to follow an adulterous war mongering pedophile, and that to acknowledge Who Jesus really is is to commit shirk.
 
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Altair-786

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#69
How is that illegal? Neither side owned that land in 1946. Since then, the Israelis own it. So much for unbiased news and knowing all about the country. lol

(I like you. You're fun.)

umm it was palestine like since salahudin freed it from crusades... until british came in ww1 palestine was free
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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#70
Matthew 6:33 ESV

But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

Philippians 4:5-6
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Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand; do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.

I'm going offline for a while, Altair, I hope to see you again sometime.

ok that is confusing, yeah theres no proof of God, and the bible isnt really proof its from God... if it really is than there would be more christians
Perhaps we can talk about this more, soon.

Sincerely,
PW
 

kodiak

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wat proof is there that bible is even from God? hope this thread doesnt get me banned or sumthin
Only a supernatural, omniscient God would be able to reveal the future very clearly and with perfect accuracy hundreds of times. The Bible has a couple thousand prophecies that have already been fulfilled. An example would be the death and resurrection of Jesus, which has evidence that it occurred as the prophecies stated other than other Biblical accounts. This is part of the evidence for the Bible being inspired by God.
The prophecy from the Koran is a self fulfilling prophecy by Mohammed, saying that he would return to Mecca. This is clearly different than the prophecies of the Bible. No other religion has any such prophesies as in the Bible.
 

blue_ladybug

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#72
You won't be here for too much longer. :/ If you don't believe in the bible or in Jesus, then why even bother to join a CHRISTIAN chat site? :confused:
 
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shotgunner

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#73
ok that is confusing, yeah theres no proof of God, and the bible isnt really proof its from God... if it really is than there would be more christians
Read the new Testament. Do it with an open mind. If you are truly seeking, God will reveal himself to you. I know Jesus is real because I have a real relationship with him. I know he is real because I see him in others, I've seen the change in them since accepting Christ.
 
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Altair-786

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#74
So you believe more than you are even aware. You could do some homework on this, but nobody in your culture or religion will tell you the truth about these things, since speaking the truth about Mohammed is haram (blasphemy even) and punishable by death, as is leaving your religion, so you will not be supported by many in your quest for truth. Your religion teaches you to follow an adulterous war mongering pedophile, and that to acknowledge Who Jesus really is is to commit shirk.

there is no truth, everything is permitted... everything is open to interpretation and that all interpretations are in a sense valid. Yet at the same time, maybe no interpretation is the true one as such a doesn't exist.... like there is no truth, anything is legal. So anything thing can be said without facts..thats what i think of religion..
 
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Altair-786

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#75
why r u guys suddenly insulting islam and its prophet?
 

Magenta

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why r u guys suddenly insulting islam and its prophet?
Why is telling the truth about who Mohammed was considered insults? He married a six year old and consummated the wedding when Aisha was nine. He made war on many people. He had more wives than anyone else was allowed. These are all well documented historical facts. Why do they offend you?
 
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Altair-786

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#78
Why is telling the truth about who Mohammed was considered insults? He married a six year old and consummated the wedding when Aisha was nine. He made war on many people. He had more wives than anyone else was allowed. These are all well documented historical facts. Why do they offend you?
say what you like about islam, it doesnt bother me......
 
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Is

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#79
Satan told him that, because Satan hates God's people.

so true, that satan spoke to me.. sometimes on watsapp, sometimes on fb, sometimes on skype... yeah for sure he told me that... and who said Israel are God's people lol arent they jews which basically r non believers for u guys
The Bible says Jews are Gods people.
 
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Altair-786

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#80
i dont like the idea of following something cos of wats written, r we sheep or sumthin? why do we have to be guided.. we should have faith in ourselves and see the world as it really is