History of the Sabbath - Have you been tricked?

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PaulMack

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You may be keeping the Ten Commandments but just from listening to both of you, its seems neither one of you are keeping the Great Commandments of God.

Matthew 22:36-40
[SUP]36 [/SUP]“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” [SUP]37 [/SUP]And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ [SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the great and foremost commandment. [SUP]39 [/SUP]The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ [SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

Great Commandment: “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’

Great Commandment: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’

I see no Love for those who do not follow you in what you teach. I see no Love. So how can either one of you say you are keeping the Commandments???
 
disciplemike

disciplemike

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PaulMack said:
You may be keeping the Ten Commandments but just from listening to both of you, its seems neither one of you are keeping the Great Commandments of God.

Matthew 22:36-40
[SUP]36 [/SUP]“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” [SUP]37 [/SUP]And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ [SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the great and foremost commandment. [SUP]39 [/SUP]The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ [SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

Great Commandment: “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’

Great Commandment: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’

I see no Love for those who do not follow you in what you teach. I see no Love. So how can either one of you say you are keeping the Commandments???
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you mistake love for compromise.
 
Yonah

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IN the law the text says.... hmmm
 
Yonah

Yonah

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PaulMack said:
You may be keeping the Ten Commandments but just from listening to both of you, its seems neither one of you are keeping the Great Commandments of God.

Matthew 22:36-40
[SUP]36 [/SUP]“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” [SUP]37 [/SUP]And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ [SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the great and foremost commandment. [SUP]39 [/SUP]The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ [SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

Great Commandment: “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’

Great Commandment: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’

I see no Love for those who do not follow you in what you teach. I see no Love. So how can either one of you say you are keeping the Commandments???
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you don't even know me and have never heard me... have you even asked me why I believe what I believe? see prov. 18:13
 
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Vdp

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You have already shown us what you believe Yonah and you believe only what the O.T. says. You need to read the N.T.
 
GandalfTheWhite

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PaulMack said:
You mistake Grace.

You demand instead of Loving.
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So you are advocating cheap grace... a free for all buffet where you can pick and choose what you would like to do, no Biblical point of reference needed?

This does not sound like the God of order but the god of chaos.
 
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garee

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disciplemike said:
the term "ceremonial law" was probably made up by some proud xtians who could admit we have been tricked.
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No tricks just shadows as signs.

Ceremonial laws govern festive activities. Ceremonial laws were made for man to remind them of Christ coming, and not man for the ceremonies

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

As a shadow the temple was used along with its entire furnishings candlestick, tables, gold censers, etc. They all represented something about the suffering of Christ who indwelt the believer and the glory that followed.

Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what “manner of time” the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1Pe 1:10-11

They foreshadowed his coming of the gospel as the golden thread woven throughout scripture, announcing:; "Christ is coming" in the flesh, Christ is coming in the flesh, Christ is coming in the flesh .

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:Which was a figure(parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until “the time of reformation”. Heb 9:8

The veil represented the flesh of Christ who promised to come and was used to signal the time of reformation had come. Christ did come in the flesh. It provided a way to try the spirits to see if they were of God or men. The purpose from the beginning when he first instructed the Levi’s

2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that “Jesus Christ is come in the flesh”. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Moral laws can aid in governing during the ceremonies. Ceremonial laws have nothing do with governing morals. They govern eating drinking and fasting on appointed Sabbath days.

The moral law encompasses regulations on justice, respect, and sexual conduct, Moral law “does not point people to Christ” ; it merely illuminates the fallen state of all mankind.
 
TMS

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garee said:
No tricks just shadows as signs.

Ceremonial laws govern festive activities. Ceremonial laws were made for man to remind them of Christ coming, and not man for the ceremonies

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

As a shadow the temple was used along with its entire furnishings candlestick, tables, gold censers, etc. They all represented something about the suffering of Christ who indwelt the believer and the glory that followed.

Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what “manner of time” the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1Pe 1:10-11

They foreshadowed his coming of the gospel as the golden thread woven throughout scripture, announcing:; "Christ is coming" in the flesh, Christ is coming in the flesh, Christ is coming in the flesh .

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:Which was a figure(parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until “the time of reformation”. Heb 9:8

The veil represented the flesh of Christ who promised to come and was used to signal the time of reformation had come. Christ did come in the flesh. It provided a way to try the spirits to see if they were of God or men. The purpose from the beginning when he first instructed the Levi’s

2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that “Jesus Christ is come in the flesh”. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Moral laws can aid in governing during the ceremonies. Ceremonial laws have nothing do with governing morals. They govern eating drinking and fasting on appointed Sabbath days.

The moral law encompasses regulations on justice, respect, and sexual conduct, Moral law “does not point people to Christ” ; it merely illuminates the fallen state of all mankind.
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i agree with what you said, there are many spiritual lessons in the shadows and types given.
They pointed to Christ or the plan of salvation.
But Why should we obey God? We can find reasons to obey or not to obey. If God tells us to do something, it doesn't matter what the reasons are, i can choose to obey or disobey, and i can find reasons justify doing doth.
By faith and because we love God we should obey. If the Sabbath is moral or not does not change the fact that He said "remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy".
 
disciplemike

disciplemike

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garee said:
No tricks just shadows as signs.

Ceremonial laws govern festive activities. Ceremonial laws were made for man to remind them of Christ coming, and not man for the ceremonies

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

As a shadow the temple was used along with its entire furnishings candlestick, tables, gold censers, etc. They all represented something about the suffering of Christ who indwelt the believer and the glory that followed.

Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what “manner of time” the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1Pe 1:10-11

They foreshadowed his coming of the gospel as the golden thread woven throughout scripture, announcing:; "Christ is coming" in the flesh, Christ is coming in the flesh, Christ is coming in the flesh .

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:Which was a figure(parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until “the time of reformation”. Heb 9:8

The veil represented the flesh of Christ who promised to come and was used to signal the time of reformation had come. Christ did come in the flesh. It provided a way to try the spirits to see if they were of God or men. The purpose from the beginning when he first instructed the Levi’s

2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that “Jesus Christ is come in the flesh”. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Moral laws can aid in governing during the ceremonies. Ceremonial laws have nothing do with governing morals. They govern eating drinking and fasting on appointed Sabbath days.

The moral law encompasses regulations on justice, respect, and sexual conduct, Moral law “does not point people to Christ” ; it merely illuminates the fallen state of all mankind.
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all that exlainin' why you don't obey.

instead you could just say, yes God, I will keep Your Sabbath holy.

so simple a child could do it.
 
Yonah

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Vdp said:
You have already shown us what you believe Yonah and you believe only what the O.T. says. You need to read the N.T.
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actually your very statement shows you have no clue what I believe, I am amazed how many folks on this forum presume to know so much about what folks believe, have you asked my anything about my faith VDP? you think you know so much about it ok then go ahead and explain why I see the new covenants fulfillment in every word of the NT, and while rat it, explain to me why I see the Savior never changed the Sabbath either, if you cant, kindly keep your opinions about what you think I believe to yourself please.
 
disciplemike

disciplemike

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people will attack if you imply that their form of religion is not 100% correct.
it's human nature.
next thing, they post false assumptions about you, and then gather up friends, and then you are banned.
crucify him, crucify him.
 
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BeyondET

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disciplemike said:
people will attack if you imply that their form of religion is not 100% correct.
it's human nature.
next thing, they post false assumptions about you, and then gather up friends, and then you are banned.
crucify him, crucify him.
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Well what do you expect from people if you do the same pharaoh
 
disciplemike

disciplemike

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BeyondET said:
Well what do you expect from people if you do the same pharaoh
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well brother, after it has been done to me a few times,
I hope I won't be posting false assumptions about anyone.
If you can show me where I have, I will issue a full apology.
 
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