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in your church do you have any gays?
ok do you ahve any non gayes?
add it up
what is your percent?
one percent
WAKE UP AND PRAY!
the devil has control of the country the media and the churches
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual epravity, i.e. (spec.) malice; plur. (concr.) plots, sins:--iniquity, wickedness. in high religious places.
My father was high up in a church organizaton and they invited him to go to the __________ asembly of leaders/
the weekend retreat they had wife swapping, and all kinds of perversions and they were testing him
he told them to get lost
he was visted by a pastor who came to his home opened his coat and showed him a revolver
and said
if you say anything to anyone you will disappear....
this is what is going on
he is dead now so they cant kill him
ok do you ahve any non gayes?
add it up
what is your percent?
one percent
WAKE UP AND PRAY!
the devil has control of the country the media and the churches
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual epravity, i.e. (spec.) malice; plur. (concr.) plots, sins:--iniquity, wickedness. in high religious places.
My father was high up in a church organizaton and they invited him to go to the __________ asembly of leaders/
the weekend retreat they had wife swapping, and all kinds of perversions and they were testing him
he told them to get lost
he was visted by a pastor who came to his home opened his coat and showed him a revolver
and said
if you say anything to anyone you will disappear....
this is what is going on
he is dead now so they cant kill him
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I will not say any more
I am not crazy
you woulnt believe what is really going on
our job is to
Read your Bible
Read your favorite Bible
read any Bible
they all have the gospel in them
read it read it read it
put it in your heart
get ready
those who are faithful and pure will be put in concentration camps
be ready
that is the plan.
Jesus said so too
He will not let one hair fall from your head
JEsus is your love
he is your life
he is your everything
he is your bridegroom
he is so beautifuul
soon we will be home with him
we will be out of this corruption
reaad and believe
read and believe
pray and read
always pray
we sin 490 times a day by just thinking a bad thought
but as soo as you think the bad thought
go right away to JEsus
say
im sorry
help me
help me think about you]be like you
love you
praise
Jesus all the time
praise his name when you get up
praise his name when yo go to bed
he changes your desires
he makes you happy he is wonderful
Praise the Lord ! Praise the Lord! Blessed be the Lord
soon we will be home together and we will remember this dark earth no more
please do not harbor any resentment agaisnt the wicked
for they know not what they do
they are lost they chose the dark path
help them when you can be kind to them they will perish soon
it may be some will repent when they see the love of Jesus.
I am not crazy
you woulnt believe what is really going on
our job is to
Read your Bible
Read your favorite Bible
read any Bible
they all have the gospel in them
read it read it read it
put it in your heart
get ready
those who are faithful and pure will be put in concentration camps
be ready
that is the plan.
Jesus said so too
He will not let one hair fall from your head
JEsus is your love
he is your life
he is your everything
he is your bridegroom
he is so beautifuul
soon we will be home with him
we will be out of this corruption
reaad and believe
read and believe
pray and read
always pray
we sin 490 times a day by just thinking a bad thought
but as soo as you think the bad thought
go right away to JEsus
say
im sorry
help me
help me think about you]be like you
love you
praise
Jesus all the time
praise his name when you get up
praise his name when yo go to bed
he changes your desires
he makes you happy he is wonderful
Praise the Lord ! Praise the Lord! Blessed be the Lord
soon we will be home together and we will remember this dark earth no more
please do not harbor any resentment agaisnt the wicked
for they know not what they do
they are lost they chose the dark path
help them when you can be kind to them they will perish soon
it may be some will repent when they see the love of Jesus.
Interesting point.
I also want to add that homosexuality is the obsession of occidental, rich, developped, liberal and hedonist countries like USA, Canada, Western European countries etc. St. Paul was preaching against this practice to the romans (which again, shows that homosexuality was prevalent in the western world).
I also want to add that homosexuality is the obsession of occidental, rich, developped, liberal and hedonist countries like USA, Canada, Western European countries etc. St. Paul was preaching against this practice to the romans (which again, shows that homosexuality was prevalent in the western world).
O
well stated everybody, the main thing to remember is this, hate the sin but love the sinner, and here is the point most of us miss the point because we judge out of emotions and not out of Spirit, I am also guilty of this sin, judging that is, and many more for that matter, but thank God for the Blood of the Lamb that washes my sins away when I repent of them!
So what are you trying to say Osiyo, this, we must stop bashing the homo groups, bless them, and pray for them, love them as yourself, impossible I do know but that is what Jesus commanded was it not? Yes they are lost, and we the former dead in this world (spiritually dead to God because of our sins) have received something that we should freely share with the "others", and that is the bread of life! OH if we don't we will on day stand before Him that has fire in His eyes, and we will have to explain why we have the blood of those on our hands! Think of it brothers and sisters, blood on our hands because we did not pass the bread of life farther, to our shame. Be blessed and watch for the hungry, they are all over the place, in our homes, at work, in our schools, in our neighbourhoods, and we won't come out of our "zones of comfort".
So what are you trying to say Osiyo, this, we must stop bashing the homo groups, bless them, and pray for them, love them as yourself, impossible I do know but that is what Jesus commanded was it not? Yes they are lost, and we the former dead in this world (spiritually dead to God because of our sins) have received something that we should freely share with the "others", and that is the bread of life! OH if we don't we will on day stand before Him that has fire in His eyes, and we will have to explain why we have the blood of those on our hands! Think of it brothers and sisters, blood on our hands because we did not pass the bread of life farther, to our shame. Be blessed and watch for the hungry, they are all over the place, in our homes, at work, in our schools, in our neighbourhoods, and we won't come out of our "zones of comfort".
Poll Question:
the person who joined the forum this morning, ignored the scores of other threads about the same subject and made one single post consisting of a leading question about sexual sin and God's sovereignty will:
the person who joined the forum this morning, ignored the scores of other threads about the same subject and made one single post consisting of a leading question about sexual sin and God's sovereignty will:
- be back later, carefully and thoughtfully read all of the replies and engage in vibrant, meaningful, edifying and open discussion.
- never visit this forum again.
K
Blaming some one else for the faults or sins of others is just a scape goat. I know one's actions can influence another, but I know some people that are homosexual that came from a loving, caring family with no abuse or anything. In the same way I know others who did come from abusive families that did not turn out to be abusive themselves. We belong to generations that want to make excuses or blame others for our faults, but the truth is how we learn from the things that happen and then apply it to our lives. Some end up applying it and doing bad things themselves, others apply what has happened and turn it around and become better people for it.
Homosexuality is just another sin amongst sins, and although we can talk to them about what the bible says. We are ultimately to leave it up to God on how they are to be judged. For example if you judge some one to harshly for their sin of homosexuality, would you want our Lord Jesus to say to you at judgment because you were to harsh and unforgiving to them I am not going to forgive your sins either so I cast you out ???
Homosexuality is just another sin amongst sins, and although we can talk to them about what the bible says. We are ultimately to leave it up to God on how they are to be judged. For example if you judge some one to harshly for their sin of homosexuality, would you want our Lord Jesus to say to you at judgment because you were to harsh and unforgiving to them I am not going to forgive your sins either so I cast you out ???
God does not create homosexuals. Neither does he create murderers. There are things that go wrong occasionally, wires get crossed, these things happen. If one knows they are committing sin. and they continue doing it, it is sin indeed. One needs to learn what transgression of the law is, to know what sin is. It is one thing to be attracted to the same sex, it is another to act upon it.
A
My 2 cents:
I think of the scene in Ghostbusters, where Egon has Dana Barrett hooked up to some kind of brain scan apparatus. She describes her encounter with the ghosts and demons in her refrigerator. Egon examines the data and says, "She's telling the truth. At least SHE thinks she is."
I believe one can be born gay in the same sense that one can be born a serial killer, or a pedophile, or a kleptomaniac. We are all born in sin. But if someone truly believes they are born gay and can't change being that way, it is a mental or emotional illness. And I'm not saying that to be mean. There is just nothing normal about desiring to copulate with someone of the same gender. Not to be crude, but the "parts" just don't fit! And it may be possible for the psychiatric community to develop a method of treating this disorder as they treat other disorders, but this will never happen as long as the secular media paints such a hateful picture of anyone who doesn't embrace this aberrant lifestyle with open arms.
I do not judge. But I have to abide by judgments already made by God.
Leviticus 18:22 (NIV)- Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
Romans 1:24-27 (NIV) - Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
It's in the New Testament as well as the Old. As long as God has a problem with it, so do I.
I think of the scene in Ghostbusters, where Egon has Dana Barrett hooked up to some kind of brain scan apparatus. She describes her encounter with the ghosts and demons in her refrigerator. Egon examines the data and says, "She's telling the truth. At least SHE thinks she is."
I believe one can be born gay in the same sense that one can be born a serial killer, or a pedophile, or a kleptomaniac. We are all born in sin. But if someone truly believes they are born gay and can't change being that way, it is a mental or emotional illness. And I'm not saying that to be mean. There is just nothing normal about desiring to copulate with someone of the same gender. Not to be crude, but the "parts" just don't fit! And it may be possible for the psychiatric community to develop a method of treating this disorder as they treat other disorders, but this will never happen as long as the secular media paints such a hateful picture of anyone who doesn't embrace this aberrant lifestyle with open arms.
I do not judge. But I have to abide by judgments already made by God.
Leviticus 18:22 (NIV)- Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
Romans 1:24-27 (NIV) - Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
It's in the New Testament as well as the Old. As long as God has a problem with it, so do I.