How do we Know When a Person who Claims to be Born-Again was Never Born-Again?

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Gr8grace

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What sins people commit Prove they were never born-again to begin with?
Can a person be born-again more than once?
I always give people the benefit of the doubt. But 99% of the time when people ask this. They think that they are most definitely born-again and the rest of us are suspect.

When in reality, the people who focus on whether or not others are saved, are suspect themselves.

And their DOCTRINE points this out and makes them suspect of whether they truly trusted Christ at some point in time.

If we don't KNOW that we are saved right here and now...........our focus should be the SON and what we really believe about His Person(Name) and work.
 
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I always give people the benefit of the doubt. But 99% of the time when people ask this. They think that they are most definitely born-again and the rest of us are suspect.

When in reality, the people who focus on whether or not others are saved, are suspect themselves.

And their DOCTRINE points this out and makes them suspect of whether they truly trusted Christ at some point in time.

If we don't KNOW that we are saved right here and now...........our focus should be the SON and what we really believe about His Person(Name) and work.
On the flip-side, anyone who is not living a holy life knows they would be damned on the spot if they die this second. This is the assurance of not accepting God's grace.
 
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So your responding better than others? You can boast?
Whether we don't respond to God's grace, respond little, or, respond much, God gets all the glory. We just need to continually be sure we are responding faithfully to God's grace.
 
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Gr8grace

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On the flip-side, anyone who is not living a holy life knows they would be damned on the spot if they die this second. This is the assurance of not accepting God's grace.
No, that would be on satans side. The born-again believer who has grown in Grace and knowledge believes the Fathers Side.........

Do you believe the Father or satan?

New American Standard Bible
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
 

Blain

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What sins people commit Prove they were never born-again to begin with?
Can a person be born-again more than once?
Your asking the wrong question buddy
 

valiant

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On the flip-side, anyone who is not living a holy life knows they would be damned on the spot if they die this second. This is the assurance of not accepting God's grace.
this is man's false reasoning. It assumes the burden for salvation is on US whereas God has put it upon Himself. A man is saved by God's GRACE through faith, and that NOT of himself. It is the GIFT of God and not of works lest any man should boast (Eph 2.8-10). However holiness will result as verse 10 makes clear. But it is GOD'S WORK not men's.
 
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Gr8grace

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Whether we don't respond to God's grace, respond little, or, respond much, God gets all the glory. We just need to continually be sure we are responding faithfully to God's grace.
So what about you? Are you responding much or just a little?
 

valiant

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Whether we don't respond to God's grace, respond little, or, respond much, God gets all the glory. We just need to continually be sure we are responding faithfully to God's grace.
God's grace produces its own response. We respond BECAUSE of God's grace.
 
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this is man's false reasoning. It assumes the burden for salvation is on US whereas God has put it upon Himself. A man is saved by God's GRACE through faith, and that NOT of himself. It is the GIFT of God and not of works lest any man should boast (Eph 2.8-10). However holiness will result as verse 10 makes clear. But it is GOD'S WORK not men's.
1 Corinthians 3:6
I have planted, Apollo watered, but God gave the increase.

1 Corinthians 3:7
Therefore, neither he that planteth is any thing, nor he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
 

Marcelo

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What sins people commit Prove they were never born-again to begin with?
Can a person be born-again more than once?

First step is to ask oneself: "Am I born again?". If, after a sincere self examination, the answer is YES then we can go ahead. Well, I'm very weak in the faith, but still I think I am a born-again Christian.

A variety of sins, specially if repeated, can prove someone is not born again, for example: ADULTERY. I know many "Christians" who think they can cheat on their spouses and get away with it. I'd rather believe they were never born-again, so they still have the chance of being truly converted before it's too late.
 

notuptome

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1Jo 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

I will never understand how some can think they know more than God.

If you do not know you have eternal life then you don't.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Gr8grace

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Of course, much more than that. You are only assuming that everyone responds to God's grace very little.
How much do you respond to Gods Grace then? 50%,60%,70%?