How Do You Picture the Lord?

[Avinu]

You might know what the Bible says but you don't know what it teaches in terms of grace and truth through the Holy Spirit and the nature of God. How about the sin of judging and not loving your brother. He that does not love his brother is a murderer and we know that a murderer has no eternal life in abiding in him (1Jn 3:15). If you constantly judge your brother, you are not loving your brother but speaking evil of him and by doing that you speak evil of the law that we are to obey as a doer (Jm 4:11). You are inexcusable that judges another and the love of God does not abide in you. You make mention of the works of the flesh and if a brother does not repent of these things he is not saved and will perish in hell, yet you do not love your brother because you judge him and and speak evil of him and also of the law. Have you not also sinned as a murderer by not loving your brother and will not the justice of God judge you as a murderer according to the scriptures?

Just keep avoiding answering the question. Just for truth, I don't even know you, but I know if I was next to you, and someone was going to shoot you. I know that I would take that bullet for you to save your life. So just because I think you're ignorant to the word of God doesn't mean I don't love you. But I know you wouldn't give your life to save me. That is the real difference in love.

 

[greatblue]

I think of the Lord as a living, all-powerful, all-knowing spirit, whose only wish is that we should all be righteous, happy, and safe.

Honestly, I picture the Lord Jesus Christ "in bodily form" glorified in true holiness, and really only as Him. I picture His loving nature juxtaposed with His rightful judicious heart. I walk toward Him knowing that I have fallen short and that it will be entirely His decision if I am "good and faithful servant" invited to His Father's house.

There is truly no possible human comprehension as to God's spirit, as the very fabric of the heavens and the earth are created by Him. Gen 1:1, "And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters."

Gen 3:8 "And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden."

Ex 33:21-23 "Then the LORD said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.” I think of what happened to Moses' flesh beautifully radiated because of this encounter.

In the beginning we are given two specific images of our God, both in Spirit and in Body. His Spirit image is creation-based, while His Body image is fellowship-based. As we know, God created us in His image, intended for His pleasure, living in fellowship with the Almighty God. I believe this is how we are intended to see Him, know Him, and love Him.

 

[Red33]

Easy question for you Red, if someone is saved, received Yeshua, confessed and repented of their sins, the whole 9 yards as it were. Do you believe that they can commit sins, adultery, idolatry, lying, just to name a few, and if they don't repent, they will still make it to heaven? Now I'm not talking about, oops, I gave into temptation once or twice, but just sinning, and not really worrying about it. Will they still make it to heaven without repenting, after they got saved prior?

This is a strange question asked by someone who has a strange bent on repentance, what it is and how it is to be applied. You are mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit, the grace of God and the finished work of the cross. You are trying to force God to deny Himself so that you can be the judge of another man's sins and eternal destiny. Anyone, no matter what they profess, who lives in the practice of these works of the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of God. May I also add that those that live in the sin of religious pride rooted in self righteousness through the energy of the flesh will not enter in as well. There is no twisted application to this that you like to suggest and like to use to trap others in your little domain that rejects the finished work of Christ. Your gospel is not from above because it a message that there is no power unto salvation, that it is dependent upon man's ability to repent of sin and not by faith in the grace of God to empower man not to continue in sin. You lack the grace of God in your understanding that has not been established in your heart nor is it evident in the words you express. Opps, does this offend you?

 

[Avinu]

This is a strange question asked by someone who has a strange bent on repentance, what it is and how it is to be applied. You are mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit, the grace of God and the finished work of the cross. You are trying to force God to deny Himself so that you can be the judge of another man's sins and eternal destiny. Anyone, no matter what they profess, who lives in the practice of these works of the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of God. May I also add that those that live in the sin of religious pride rooted in self righteousness through the energy of the flesh will not enter in as well. There is no twisted application to this that you like to suggest and like to use to trap others in your little domain that rejects the finished work of Christ. Your gospel is not from above because it a message that there is no power unto salvation, that it is dependent upon man's ability to repent of sin and not by faith in the grace of God to empower man not to continue in sin. You lack the grace of God in your understanding that has not been established in your heart nor is it evident in the words you express. Opps, does this offend you?

While yet you STILL avoid answering my questions, which is typical for someone that doesn't want to get called out in there own contradiction. Now you make unclaimed accusations of me. So now I'm going to make you call it out if you can.

1) Show me one biblical way I'm mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit and His grace, and finished work at the cross.

2) Show me one place where I say or even claim to do any works of the flesh, and explain if you can, what the works of the flesh are?

3)Show me any where, that I have shown or acted in religious pride and self righteousness through the flesh.

4) Show me where I reject the work of Messiah

5)And finally, show where I have spoken against salvation, or stated it depends upon man's ability to repent, and that it's not of God's power.

So since you have accused me of all this in what I write in my posts, NOW PROVE IT. And let everyone see how full of crap you really are, you're afraid to answer my questions, so you turn the tables and make false accusations of me. I really want you to prove your accusations, posts, # of posts, show it all, or will you be like the pharisees and suducees you made false accusations against Messiah?

 

[Allin]

I don't have an overall picture of the Lord. Last I 'saw' Him (don't anybody flip out), He was in a dark business suit with same color tie and a white shirt. He isn't the 'do-nothing Jesus' that is often proliferated today in some churches (the one who hears your prayers but doesn't answer and tells you everything will still be alright); instead, He's a Man of action, and He's serious and concerned about the issues we all face. But no matter what He appears to look like visually or overall, He's always absolutely splendid.

 

[Avinu]

This is a strange question asked by someone who has a strange bent on repentance, what it is and how it is to be applied. You are mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit, the grace of God and the finished work of the cross. You are trying to force God to deny Himself so that you can be the judge of another man's sins and eternal destiny. Anyone, no matter what they profess, who lives in the practice of these works of the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of God. May I also add that those that live in the sin of religious pride rooted in self righteousness through the energy of the flesh will not enter in as well. There is no twisted application to this that you like to suggest and like to use to trap others in your little domain that rejects the finished work of Christ. Your gospel is not from above because it a message that there is no power unto salvation, that it is dependent upon man's ability to repent of sin and not by faith in the grace of God to empower man not to continue in sin. You lack the grace of God in your understanding that has not been established in your heart nor is it evident in the words you express. Opps, does this offend you?

This is a strange question asked by someone who has a strange bent on repentance, what it is and how it is to be applied. You are mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit, the grace of God and the finished work of the cross. You are trying to force God to deny Himself so that you can be the judge of another man's sins and eternal destiny. Anyone, no matter what they profess, who lives in the practice of these works of the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of God. May I also add that those that live in the sin of religious pride rooted in self righteousness through the energy of the flesh will not enter in as well. There is no twisted application to this that you like to suggest and like to use to trap others in your little domain that rejects the finished work of Christ. Your gospel is not from above because it a message that there is no power unto salvation, that it is dependent upon man's ability to repent of sin and not by faith in the grace of God to empower man not to continue in sin. You lack the grace of God in your understanding that has not been established in your heart nor is it evident in the words you express. Opps, does this offend you?
While yet you STILL avoid answering my questions, which is typical for someone that doesn't want to get called out in there own contradiction. Now you make unclaimed accusations of me. So now I'm going to make you call it out if you can.

1) Show me one biblical way I'm mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit and His grace, and finished work at the cross.

2) Show me one place where I say or even claim to do any works of the flesh, and explain if you can, what the works of the flesh are?

3)Show me any where, that I have shown or acted in religious pride and self righteousness through the flesh.

4) Show me where I reject the work of Messiah

5)And finally, show where I have spoken against salvation, or stated it depends upon man's ability to repent, and that it's not of God's power.

So since you have accused me of all this in what I write in my posts, NOW PROVE IT. And let everyone see how full of crap you really are, you're afraid to answer my questions, so you turn the tables and make false accusations of me. I really want you to prove your accusations, posts, # of posts, show it all, or will you be like the pharisees and suducees you made false accusations against Messiah?

Still waiting for your answers Red33

 

[Saul_Durian]

This is a strange question asked by someone who has a strange bent on repentance, what it is and how it is to be applied. You are mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit, the grace of God and the finished work of the cross. You are trying to force God to deny Himself so that you can be the judge of another man's sins and eternal destiny. Anyone, no matter what they profess, who lives in the practice of these works of the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of God. May I also add that those that live in the sin of religious pride rooted in self righteousness through the energy of the flesh will not enter in as well. There is no twisted application to this that you like to suggest and like to use to trap others in your little domain that rejects the finished work of Christ. Your gospel is not from above because it a message that there is no power unto salvation, that it is dependent upon man's ability to repent of sin and not by faith in the grace of God to empower man not to continue in sin. You lack the grace of God in your understanding that has not been established in your heart nor is it evident in the words you express. Opps, does this offend you?
While yet you STILL avoid answering my questions, which is typical for someone that doesn't want to get called out in there own contradiction. Now you make unclaimed accusations of me. So now I'm going to make you call it out if you can.

1) Show me one biblical way I'm mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit and His grace, and finished work at the cross.

2) Show me one place where I say or even claim to do any works of the flesh, and explain if you can, what the works of the flesh are?

3)Show me any where, that I have shown or acted in religious pride and self righteousness through the flesh.

4) Show me where I reject the work of Messiah

5)And finally, show where I have spoken against salvation, or stated it depends upon man's ability to repent, and that it's not of God's power.

So since you have accused me of all this in what I write in my posts, NOW PROVE IT. And let everyone see how full of crap you really are, you're afraid to answer my questions, so you turn the tables and make false accusations of me. I really want you to prove your accusations, posts, # of posts, show it all, or will you be like the pharisees and suducees you made false accusations against Messiah?

Still waiting for your answers Red33

Is it that you can't play nice, or just don't want to? I seem to recall someone making false accusations of me too

 

[Red33]

This is a strange question asked by someone who has a strange bent on repentance, what it is and how it is to be applied. You are mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit, the grace of God and the finished work of the cross. You are trying to force God to deny Himself so that you can be the judge of another man's sins and eternal destiny. Anyone, no matter what they profess, who lives in the practice of these works of the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of God. May I also add that those that live in the sin of religious pride rooted in self righteousness through the energy of the flesh will not enter in as well. There is no twisted application to this that you like to suggest and like to use to trap others in your little domain that rejects the finished work of Christ. Your gospel is not from above because it a message that there is no power unto salvation, that it is dependent upon man's ability to repent of sin and not by faith in the grace of God to empower man not to continue in sin. You lack the grace of God in your understanding that has not been established in your heart nor is it evident in the words you express. Opps, does this offend you?
While yet you STILL avoid answering my questions, which is typical for someone that doesn't want to get called out in there own contradiction. Now you make unclaimed accusations of me. So now I'm going to make you call it out if you can.

1) Show me one biblical way I'm mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit and His grace, and finished work at the cross.

2) Show me one place where I say or even claim to do any works of the flesh, and explain if you can, what the works of the flesh are?

3)Show me any where, that I have shown or acted in religious pride and self righteousness through the flesh.

4) Show me where I reject the work of Messiah

5)And finally, show where I have spoken against salvation, or stated it depends upon man's ability to repent, and that it's not of God's power.

So since you have accused me of all this in what I write in my posts, NOW PROVE IT. And let everyone see how full of crap you really are, you're afraid to answer my questions, so you turn the tables and make false accusations of me. I really want you to prove your accusations, posts, # of posts, show it all, or will you be like the pharisees and suducees you made false accusations against Messiah?

Still waiting for your answers Red33

You sound like the Jews that were waiting for the Messiah to come and He was standing right before them claiming to be the Son of God. You have to pretty blind to not to see.

 

[Red33]

Is it that you can't play nice, or just don't want to? I seem to recall someone making false accusations of me too

Just get to know Christ through the scriptures and sound doctrine in a Spirit-filled assembly that bears fruit and that will stop you from complaining of being falsely accused. When you keep claiming to be falsely accused you show what's in your heart and your great need to grow up in Christ.

 

[Avinu]

You sound like the Jews that were waiting for the Messiah to come and He was standing right before them claiming to be the Son of God. You have to pretty blind to not to see.

This is your best answer, you blatanly make accusations against me on here, and I challenge you to prove it, and this is your best answer? You have a lot of growing up to do Red. You're all talk and no show, you make big false accusations against someone and when you're called out to present evidence you run. You have just shown everyone on here what type of person you really are. It's one thing to argue or debate with someone, it's another to do what you've done here. You are a picture of those phony religious leaders who made all those false accusations of Messiah, but when asked to show proof, they couldn't even get there stories right with each other. You are a false accuser of the brethren and that is dangerous. I feel sorry for you.

 

[Red33]

This is your best answer, you blatanly make accusations against me on here, and I challenge you to prove it, and this is your best answer? You have a lot of growing up to do Red. You're all talk and no show, you make big false accusations against someone and when you're called out to present evidence you run. You have just shown everyone on here what type of person you really are. It's one thing to argue or debate with someone, it's another to do what you've done here. You are a picture of those phony religious leaders who made all those false accusations of Messiah, but when asked to show proof, they couldn't even get there stories right with each other. You are a false accuser of the brethren and that is dangerous. I feel sorry for you.

If you love God's law, then you need to learn how to live according to (Ps 119:165)...

Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

If you are offended...work out the rest of it yourself!

 

[Avinu]

If you love God's law, then you need to learn how to live according to (Ps 119:165)...

Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

If you are offended...work out the rest of it yourself!

Do everything you can Red from answering for your gross accusations, you're just making yourself look more and more like a hypocrite and worse. Once again I'm accusing you of being a liar and falsely accusing one of the body of Messiah, You wrote out quite some details of accusations against me, so prove it. Or as I said, your just like those who falsely accused Yeshua. Someone like you Red can't offend me. I'm just not letting you off the hook, you're either going to lay out your evidence of these injust accusations or you're going to make it clear to everyone that you are an accuser of the brethren just like satan is.

 

[Red33]

Do everything you can Red from answering for your gross accusations, you're just making yourself look more and more like a hypocrite and worse. Once again I'm accusing you of being a liar and falsely accusing one of the body of Messiah, You wrote out quite some details of accusations against me, so prove it. Or as I said, your just like those who falsely accused Yeshua. Someone like you Red can't offend me. I'm just not letting you off the hook, you're either going to lay out your evidence of these injust accusations or you're going to make it clear to everyone that you are an accuser of the brethren just like satan is.

Your not accountable to me and nor am I to you, but we both are accountable to God through His word and Spirit that quickens us in grace and truth. If you think it noble and godly to liken me to the accuser of the brethren then that will be on you and your own tongue. An accusation against another has to do with iniquity in the heart that has no truth in it. Admonishment has to do with warning of evil and false doctrine but never accusing the brethren. If we walk in the light and live humbly before God we won't be offended by anyone no matter what they say or do against us.

That is the great peace that we have when we esteem and love the word of God above everything, including our own lives. It is not your job to make me accountable, I stand or fall before God and if I sin I sin against God and Him alone. You need to learn that and grow in the grace and knowledge of it. Neither can we keep demanding that others answer our questions. No matter how others live we are to walk in the light and keep ourselves in the love of God always building ourselves up in the most Holy faith. Can you understand that or are you going to be familiar with all this and neglect it?

 

[MaranathaSoonQuick]

11And I saw Heaven opened, and behold, a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war.

12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written that no man knew, but He Himself.

13And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and His name is called, The Word of God.

14And the armies which were in Heaven, clothed in fine linen white and clean, followed Him upon white horses.

15And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword with which He shall smite the nations, and He shall rule them with a rod of iron; and He treadeth the wine press of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Here we have a great visual illustration of our LORD in time to come. Of course it is almost impossible for man to make an image in his head of this event but, it just goes to show how awesome and omnipotent our God truly is!

 

[HearOhIsreal]

The image of God is beyond our imagination. I personally consider it a sin to use our finite minds to grasp an image of God. Like idol worship.

Blessings

 

[Avinu]

Your not accountable to me and nor am I to you, but we both are accountable to God through His word and Spirit that quickens us in grace and truth. If you think it noble and godly to liken me to the accuser of the brethren then that will be on you and your own tongue. An accusation against another has to do with iniquity in the heart that has no truth in it.This just proves the levels of your hypocracy, your iniquity in your heart because of your false accusations is great.
Admonishment has to do with warning of evil and false doctrine but never accusing the brethren. If we walk in the light and live humbly before God we won't be offended by anyone no matter what they say or do against us. I can take admonishment, but you didn't do that, you accused me of specific things, and you still avoid giving evidence, so you continue to show your sin in this matter and try to hide behind the word admonishment.

That is the great peace that we have when we esteem and love the word of God above everything, including our own lives. It is not your job to make me accountable, I stand or fall before God and if I sin I sin against God and Him alone.Right now your sin is against a apart of the body of Messiah, and scripture says we are to hold each other accountable, so I can hold you accountable.

You need to learn that and grow in the grace and knowledge of it. Neither can we keep demanding that others answer our questions. No matter how others live we are to walk in the light and keep ourselves in the love of God always building ourselves up in the most Holy faith. Can you understand that or are you going to be familiar with all this and neglect it?

You are not in the spirit, nor walk in it, you father the devil has you well trained. You are a phony and a hypocrite. I'm calling you out on your sin and you continue to ignore your false accusations against me with no evidence and continue to try and hide behind scripture so that you don't have to answer for your sin and false accusations against me. I'm calling you out Red, you are a hypocrite, an accuser of the brethren, a liar, and you are not of the body of Messiah, for no one of the body would make such accusations like you have of me, and then run, I'm here to see your proof. Yet you cannot bring any to light. I'm glad that everyone is seeing who you really are.

 

[Red33]

God's word gives us the imaginations in our mind and heart of who He is. He is the God of all grace and the Father of all mercies. That gives me an image of who He is and what He is like. He says that He is the God of all flesh, is there anything to hard for Him. God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. God is love. For our God is a consuming fire. God is faithful and not unrighteous. God is a spirit and no respecter of persons. He is a God of the living and not of the dead. He is in the heavens and is holy. God is a sun and shield and is a buckler. God is judge, king and the strength of our heart.

God is very high and lifted up and the God of salvation. All these things speak to us as to who God is and we can not help to have an image formed in us as to who He is as these are written upon our heart. It is not sin to have an image of God in our heart when Christ is being formed in us. We long to see Him as He is and to be like Him through His Son, who was the expressed image of His person. I rest my case and leave you with this that came from the lips of Christ in (Jn 14:9)...

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?

and from John in (1Jn 1:1)...

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

 

[Red33]

You are not in the spirit, nor walk in it, you father the devil has you well trained. You are a phony and a hypocrite. I'm calling you out on your sin and you continue to ignore your false accusations against me with no evidence and continue to try and hide behind scripture so that you don't have to answer for your sin and false accusations against me. I'm calling you out Red, you are a hypocrite, an accuser of the brethren, a liar, and you are not of the body of Messiah, for no one of the body would make such accusations like you have of me, and then run, I'm here to see your proof. Yet you cannot bring any to light. I'm glad that everyone is seeing who you really are.

I guess I'll just have to bear up under it and take it on the chin and see just what kind of support you get from others. You just might get some though, because I do have enemies and you are fast becoming one of them. (shalom, shalem) Do you have the love of God in your heart to bless me as your enemy, if you do I'll take some now if you want to give it, it's up to you.

 

[Avinu]

I guess I'll just have to bear up under it and take it on the chin and see just what kind of support you get from others. You just don't get it do you, I don't need anyone on cc to support me in any way, shape or form. This isn't about getting support, this is about calling you a liar, and false accuser out in the open who continually runs from it.



You just might get some though, because I do have enemies and you are fast becoming one of them.You're not my enemy, you're someone who needs to get there heart right about falsely accusing a brother in the body of Messiah, and then running from it when confronted to show evidence.



(shalom, shalem) Do you have the love of God in your heart to bless me as your enemy, if you do I'll take some now if you want to give it, it's up to you.

I have no problem blessing you, May YHVH bless in truly walking in Him. But I still want you to show evidence of your accusations, and before you forget, let me repost them.




This is what you accused me of, and I broke down each one of your accusations and asked you to prove how I have done any of them. I love you Red, and I don't want you as an enemy, but I'm not going to sit here and let you make haneous accusations and not prove them.

This is a strange question asked by someone who has a strange bent on repentance, what it is and how it is to be applied. You are mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit, the grace of God and the finished work of the cross. You are trying to force God to deny Himself so that you can be the judge of another man's sins and eternal destiny. Anyone, no matter what they profess, who lives in the practice of these works of the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of God. May I also add that those that live in the sin of religious pride rooted in self righteousness through the energy of the flesh will not enter in as well. There is no twisted application to this that you like to suggest and like to use to trap others in your little domain that rejects the finished work of Christ. Your gospel is not from above because it a message that there is no power unto salvation, that it is dependent upon man's ability to repent of sin and not by faith in the grace of God to empower man not to continue in sin. You lack the grace of God in your understanding that has not been established in your heart nor is it evident in the words you express. Opps, does this offend you?
While yet you STILL avoid answering my questions, which is typical for someone that doesn't want to get called out in there own contradiction. Now you make unclaimed accusations of me. So now I'm going to make you call it out if you can.

1) Show me one biblical way I'm mocking God's word, the Holy Spirit and His grace, and finished work at the cross.

2) Show me one place where I say or even claim to do any works of the flesh, and explain if you can, what the works of the flesh are?

3)Show me any where, that I have shown or acted in religious pride and self righteousness through the flesh.

4) Show me where I reject the work of Messiah

5)And finally, show where I have spoken against salvation, or stated it depends upon man's ability to repent, and that it's not of God's power.

So since you have accused me of all this in what I write in my posts, NOW PROVE IT. And let everyone see how full of crap you really are, you're afraid to answer my questions, so you turn the tables and make false accusations of me. I really want you to prove your accusations, posts, # of posts, show it all, or will you be like the pharisees and suducees you made false accusations against Messiah?

 

[Saul_Durian]

You are not in the spirit, nor walk in it, you father the devil has you well trained. You are a phony and a hypocrite. I'm calling you out on your sin and you continue to ignore your false accusations against me with no evidence and continue to try and hide behind scripture so that you don't have to answer for your sin and false accusations against me. I'm calling you out Red, you are a hypocrite, an accuser of the brethren, a liar, and you are not of the body of Messiah, for no one of the body would make such accusations like you have of me, and then run, I'm here to see your proof. Yet you cannot bring any to light. I'm glad that everyone is seeing who you really are.

That is pretty harsh.