How does one know whether a prophet or prophecy is of and/or from God?

[Socreta93]

I thought this was pretty funny and great[video=youtube;hV88GrTjrkg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV88GrTjrkg[/video]

 

[Stephen63]

RUBBISH. COMPLETE NONSENSE.

all false prophets and fools that follow them.
the supernatural gifts ceased exactly on schedule.
there's ONE prophet we listen to.

Who's schedule?

 

[Dan_473]

Seriously now... I dont know if I should cringe or laugh.
Of course we need discernment of spirits. We deal with the spiritual realm.
1 John 4
[FONT="]Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]3 [/B][/FONT]And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Ephesians 6
[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]11 [/B][/FONT]Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

etc...[/FONT]

Yes, I agree... there are many times today when discerning of spirits is very useful.

 

[Dan_473]

Is there ever a time when it is not useful ?

We try the Spirits to see if they are of men ,as the things of men, or God as the things of God. . Today if any man says lo is Christ, thus say the lord we are to believe not.

They flunk the test and are shown as antichrists (many) under the lying influence of spirit of the antichrist (singular) Satan the father of lies, the spirit of error, as the one who influences the many antichrists. Human flesh.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now "already is it in the world". 1Jo 4:1

I can see now that the way I worded my post might give the impression that I thought discerning of spirits wasn't useful today... I actually think the opposite... it's as useful today as ever!

 

[Stephen63]

Personally I don't see anywhere in the NT where people called themselves by their title/function. Paul never called himself Apostle Paul nor did he call Titus - "Apostle Titus".

Only in the opening statement in every epistle he ever wrote.

 

[missy2014]

the answer is simple :

there are no more prophets.

No More Prophets
No More Prophets | SermonAudio.com

audio 45:56

First off youre so defensive about your sin being exposed drop your guard God wants to give you mercy im so sad and it breaks my heart please stop pushing God away he WANTS to help you he LIKES you WE LOVE YOU mam why are you so defensive?
You know God is speaking to you to repent and get help. Lord wants to help you so much
i hope you listen you soften your heart please God cares about you so much your on his mind
I dont care what lies the enemy has spoken come to God humbly ,
i want to know you came back to God i want you to come back those who are mature want you to too.
share your life on here and maybe youll open up and get help Love you please come to God in humility
Everyone is not against you

I do care I do want to help you God is waiting with open arms dont be afraid
bless you

I believe for you healing of your heart

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Personally I don't see anywhere in the NT where people called themselves by their title/function. Paul never called himself Apostle Paul nor did he call Titus - "Apostle Titus".

I don't agree with people calling themselves by a title because of their function in the body of Christ : Prophet Pat, Apostle Adam and in the same token this applies to Pastor Peter or Evangelists Evan.

We are so religiously trained today to think it is different if someone calls themselves Apostle Pat and we attack them for that and yet in our hypocrisy we have no problem calling someone Pastor so-and-so.

I don't think any of us should be named a title myself but I don't attack others for doing it. If we want to be 1/2 way honest - if we attack and denigrate those that call themselves by their title - like Apostle Adam or Prophet Pat - then we should do the same for Pastor so-and so or Evangelists so-and-so.

Um paul called himself an apostle in almost every letter.

 

[HisHolly]

Yet you seem baffled that you lack a plethora of things?? If a bear came after you would you realize you lacked honor? You mock Gods work and people. ..

I thought this was pretty funny and great[video=youtube;hV88GrTjrkg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV88GrTjrkg[/video]

 

[missy2014]

First off youre so defensive about your sin being exposed drop your guard God wants to give you mercy im so sad and it breaks my heart please stop pushing God away he WANTS to help you he LIKES you WE LOVE YOU mam why are you so defensive?
You know God is speaking to you to repent and get help. Lord wants to help you so much
i hope you listen you soften your heart please God cares about you so much your on his mind
I dont care what lies the enemy has spoken come to God humbly ,
i want to know you came back to God i want you to come back those who are mature want you to too.
share your life on here and maybe youll open up and get help Love you please come to God in humility
Everyone is not against you

I do care I do want to help you God is waiting with open arms dont be afraid
bless you

I believe for you healing of your heart

sorry i should of said any Christian wants you to come back not just the mature but sometimes people havent been that encouraging towards you. anyway know he is the God of hope he wants you he is good!

 

[Depleted]

Those who disregard an office of grace is deformed part of the body. You can't mature it's impossible.. Yes everyone can have the Holy Spirit but not everyone can operate and be functional without the 5.. He gave gifts,.

Hmmm, I can't mature.

Ah! That explains it. Then I give up.

(Fortunately, I think giving up is a good thing. That's when God takes over, instead of me.)

 

[LaurenTM]

it is still the same, If someone claims to be a prophet and prophesy's, and the thing he said would happen does not come true, That man is no prophet..

God did not change..

well duh

but that is not the description of a NT prophet

people like to ignore the NT description (I don't mean you personally) because the gift does not have thepower and significance it did in the old....some who think they are prophets seem to think they hear from God every 5 minutes

NO ONE is "ON" all the time...even Elijah ran away after a huge victory and God had to straighten him out

let the prophets speak 2 or 3 and the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets...it's in the NT

people want to be big shot lone ranger prophets...however God in His wisdom says otherwise

 

[LaurenTM]

But, you just echoed what I said Lauren. Confirmation. I'm sorry to hear you had a bad experience.

I don't see it as an echo but perhaps I misunderstood you?

thx re sentiment regarding my bad experience...quite a few years ago now and many were fooled by the same person

I was very young...it has not happened again

 

[Grace777x70]

Um paul called himself an apostle in almost every letter.

It is obvious you are missing the whole point. He never once called Himself "Apostle Paul." NOT that he wasn't an apostle. Do you understand the difference I was speaking about in my original post?

He was an apostle of the Lord but he never gave himself the title of "Apostle Paul" - like some do today - Apostle Joe..Apostle Mike...Apostle Ralph....etc

Romans 1:1 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God,

1 Corinthians 1:1 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,


2 Timothy 1:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

 

[Blain]

If you are called to be a Prophet Blain, you should accept the call and stand in the office. Don't take this as a personal insult please, but false humility can be a problem too. Accept the call humbly which means depending completely on God to fulfill it.

For the longest time even though many would boast of how I wa supposed to be this amazingly powerful prophet of God I would reject such a thing said about me as I did not consider myself worthy to be called a prophet of God. of course it was only this year that i read a book called open heavens dreams and visions of the prophetic and this book was more than amazing in explaining what a prophet is to me. this book astonished me because it was as if this entire book was speaking of me I had no idea that I had been walking in the realm and role of a prophet even since i was first saved I had no idea that the reason I am so keen so speaking love life and encouragement was because I was called to be a prophet and I had no idea that I was simply by following my heart as god lead me being used greatly as a prophet by God.

But even though I finally understood and accepted the role of a prophet I do not call myself one for several reasons, firstly I find it un humble to claim the title of one if in fact I am a prophet then the fruits will be more than sufficient and also as I have told God many many times I am not and never will be any one thing for him.

I could care less if I called a prophet a teacher servant a healer or any other title of his kingdom in my mind and heart whatever it is that he needs at any given moment even if it's not in my initial gifts that is what i will be and do whatever it is that his heart desires he knows all he has to do is ask and he shall receive. I may not be strong or wise I am not holy and righteous and I certainly am not the most obedient child but if there is one thing i am is willing

 

[eternally-gratefull]

well duh

but that is not the description of a NT prophet

people like to ignore the NT description (I don't mean you personally) because the gift does not have thepower and significance it did in the old....some who think they are prophets seem to think they hear from God every 5 minutes

NO ONE is "ON" all the time...even Elijah ran away after a huge victory and God had to straighten him out

let the prophets speak 2 or 3 and the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets...it's in the NT

people want to be big shot lone ranger prophets...however God in His wisdom says otherwise

I do not agree,

Prophets were sent to give warning, and to tell the people Gods word.

They used prophesy to prove they were real prophets.. There were many prophets.

I do not think prophets today are any different, Now should we treat them any different (if there are even prophets in the true sense today)

I will be honest, someone comes telling me their are a prophet, and telling me something I need to know the scripture does not already tell me. I am running.

what need has god to tell me something his word does already tell me.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It is obvious you are missing the whole point. He never once called Himself "Apostle Paul." NOT that he wasn't an apostle. Do you understand the difference I was speaking about in my original post?

He was an apostle of the Lord but he never gave himself the title of "Apostle Paul" - like some do today - Apostle Joe..Apostle Mike...Apostle Ralph....etc

Romans 1:1 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God,

1 Corinthians 1:1 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,


2 Timothy 1:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

in all three of those passages, Paul basically called himself apostle paul.

if I came to you, and said I was bryan, a doctor from the Ohio State University. You would call me Dr. Bryan. out of respect.

 

[Grace777x70]

in all three of those passages, Paul basically called himself apostle paul.

if I came to you, and said I was bryan, a doctor from the Ohio State University. You would call me Dr. Bryan. out of respect.

You did miss entirely what I was saying about "titles" in the NT but never mind - it's not important....

 

[Simeon]

in all three of those passages, Paul basically called himself apostle paul.

if I came to you, and said I was bryan, a doctor from the Ohio State University. You would call me Dr. Bryan. out of respect.

On a side note, biblical scholars today agree that 2 Timothy was not authored by Paul but by a late follower after Paul's death(see R. Collins -1984) , so I guess technically in 2 timothy somebody else is calling Paul an apostle.

 

[LaurenTM]

Personally I don't see anywhere in the NT where people called themselves by their title/function. Paul never called himself Apostle Paul nor did he call Titus - "Apostle Titus".

2 people reminded you that he referred to himself as an apostle in his letters

yet, you say this:

It is obvious you are missing the whole point. He never once called Himself "Apostle Paul."NOT that he wasn't an apostle. Do you understand the difference I was speaking about in my original post?

what is actually obvious, is you thinking you dodged a bullet

you were wrong

it happens

get over it.......

 

[LaurenTM]

You did miss entirely what I was saying about "titles" in the NT but never mind - it's not important....

sure it's important

it's important to admit you were wrong...LOL!

honestly? it is right in front of you...it's a little embarrassing you keep saying you were right when you were wrong