How mysticism is undermining Bible Christianity today
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I don't see anything wrong with the OP's definition of mysticism. Was there a certain point that bothered you?
Non-subjective revelation of Christ comes when the Objective God changes our nature through the new birth, other than that only His appointed Apostles and Prophets had objective revelation which equaled with Scripture.
I'm not against subjective revelation (I had a couple) but they are in no way to contradict, add to, or be equaled to Scripture and they are to point us to the Jesus of the Bible.
We can't have each other's subjective revelation unless of course God grants the same vision or whatever.
Non-subjective revelation of Christ comes when the Objective God changes our nature through the new birth, other than that only His appointed Apostles and Prophets had objective revelation which equaled with Scripture.
I'm not against subjective revelation (I had a couple) but they are in no way to contradict, add to, or be equaled to Scripture and they are to point us to the Jesus of the Bible.
We can't have each other's subjective revelation unless of course God grants the same vision or whatever.
J
I beleive. The ones that seek after wonderment, mystical a perpetual state of amazement needing to be refueled .
Jesus referred to them as a evil generation .They have no faith .They wonder, confusing it with faith. Again I believe it is what faith is it teaches us as it does works in us as a imputed righteousness .
Marvel ….as a wonder.
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. John 3:7
I would offer. Its not that it is not a wonder as a sign of hearing another tongue, the voice of God. Called the gospel of our salvation. But to remain amazed of a amazing thing is where I think sparks can fly.
I think we all love the grace of God, as the milk of the word, it does teach and remind of continually of his great mercy and grace. But our struggles are eating the meat or doing the will of the father, the food the disciples knew not of . Who were living on the milk of the word were not familiar meat , the milk should decrease but not be forgotten . Like or daily bread the will of our father. The invisible presence of the bosom of our heavenly father, the place of his glory , typified as the bosom of Abraham... "the father of a multitude of nations"
I would offer we never outgrow for desire for milk of the word. it can what I would call can build strong bones of faith . The kind of bones found in the land of milk and honey. The same kind the son of man was strengthened in .The kind by which Samson slew the lion.
In the faith chapter. Beginning with the Greatest as to what our eyes see....Abraham . . . working down to the lesser known. I beleive it is used as a teaching tool to represent the gospel "the last will be first". Not the first Adam but Christ the spiritual seed..
Christ is the Alpha and Omega of our new faith . In regard to the same kind of witness as what the eyes seen the witness of men. God whose name is Jealous would not share the outward appearance with the world . It was not deemed worthy of they who wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. . . to represent in the end of the matter as it is written... In Hebrews 11:38 these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
The promise, their substance, their new un-corruptible bodies.
The bosom of the milk of the word, the one source of our living hope of the presence of him we worship in.
Isaiah 40:11He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.
John 1:18No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Luke 16:22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
Jesus referred to them as a evil generation .They have no faith .They wonder, confusing it with faith. Again I believe it is what faith is it teaches us as it does works in us as a imputed righteousness .
Marvel ….as a wonder.
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. John 3:7
I would offer. Its not that it is not a wonder as a sign of hearing another tongue, the voice of God. Called the gospel of our salvation. But to remain amazed of a amazing thing is where I think sparks can fly.
I think we all love the grace of God, as the milk of the word, it does teach and remind of continually of his great mercy and grace. But our struggles are eating the meat or doing the will of the father, the food the disciples knew not of . Who were living on the milk of the word were not familiar meat , the milk should decrease but not be forgotten . Like or daily bread the will of our father. The invisible presence of the bosom of our heavenly father, the place of his glory , typified as the bosom of Abraham... "the father of a multitude of nations"
I would offer we never outgrow for desire for milk of the word. it can what I would call can build strong bones of faith . The kind of bones found in the land of milk and honey. The same kind the son of man was strengthened in .The kind by which Samson slew the lion.
In the faith chapter. Beginning with the Greatest as to what our eyes see....Abraham . . . working down to the lesser known. I beleive it is used as a teaching tool to represent the gospel "the last will be first". Not the first Adam but Christ the spiritual seed..
Christ is the Alpha and Omega of our new faith . In regard to the same kind of witness as what the eyes seen the witness of men. God whose name is Jealous would not share the outward appearance with the world . It was not deemed worthy of they who wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. . . to represent in the end of the matter as it is written... In Hebrews 11:38 these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
The promise, their substance, their new un-corruptible bodies.
The bosom of the milk of the word, the one source of our living hope of the presence of him we worship in.
Isaiah 40:11He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.
John 1:18No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Luke 16:22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
J
wanting to be godlike outside of the Most High???
you confusing Christian mysticism with Satanism lol.
John the baptist and the Essenes were mystics, they devoted themselves 100 percent to serving the Most High. no wives, no kids, no job, no going to town on the weekend, etc etc, every second of every day nothing but complete devotion. yet people teach against this today, amazing!
you confusing Christian mysticism with Satanism lol.
John the baptist and the Essenes were mystics, they devoted themselves 100 percent to serving the Most High. no wives, no kids, no job, no going to town on the weekend, etc etc, every second of every day nothing but complete devotion. yet people teach against this today, amazing!
Not only is your analogy stupid, it is not even close to what I said or indicated.....try some honesty with the word of GOD and what I said....
dcontroversal said:
Doctrine is teaching and that is exactly what the bible does.........
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
dcontroversal said:
Doctrine is teaching and that is exactly what the bible does.........
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
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J
you can think its stupid till the cows come home, but that will never change the idea that it is a fact and really happened.
so was it ok to kill all those native americans? im guessing your gonna refuse to answer this because it proves men have been wrong with doctrines many times. or do i have to go back to the middle ages and start giving some other very bad examples of doctrines.
so was it ok to kill all those native americans? im guessing your gonna refuse to answer this because it proves men have been wrong with doctrines many times. or do i have to go back to the middle ages and start giving some other very bad examples of doctrines.
One cannot logically argue with that type of bait and switch blather............it is obvious that I was referencing sound biblical DOCTRINE (teaching) and to come back with that and then double down is like a man sitting at a blackjack table with 20 and taking another card......idiotic......
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