How the NKJV demotes Jesus Christ Part 1
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C
I will answer this question.
The Greek word is monogenes means unique and only, one of a kind. The passage in question is John 1:18 where the oldest manuscripts say "monogenes theos", "the unique and only God". It is affirming the deity of Jesus the Messiah. The RSV reads perfectly here when it says:
"it is God, the only Son..."
If this is not he verse you are referencing then let me know the correct one. Thanks, Dr.G
The Greek word is monogenes means unique and only, one of a kind. The passage in question is John 1:18 where the oldest manuscripts say "monogenes theos", "the unique and only God". It is affirming the deity of Jesus the Messiah. The RSV reads perfectly here when it says:
"it is God, the only Son..."
If this is not he verse you are referencing then let me know the correct one. Thanks, Dr.G
R
I will answer this question.
The Greek word is monogenes means unique and only, one of a kind. The passage in question is John 1:18 where the oldest manuscripts say "monogenes theos", "the unique and only God". It is affirming the deity of Jesus the Messiah. The RSV reads perfectly here when it says:
"it is God, the only Son..."
If this is not he verse you are referencing then let me know the correct one. Thanks, Dr.G
The Greek word is monogenes means unique and only, one of a kind. The passage in question is John 1:18 where the oldest manuscripts say "monogenes theos", "the unique and only God". It is affirming the deity of Jesus the Messiah. The RSV reads perfectly here when it says:
"it is God, the only Son..."
If this is not he verse you are referencing then let me know the correct one. Thanks, Dr.G
C
No "genes" does not mean generation. Here is the Greek rendering below.
monogenḗs; gen. monogenoús, masc.-fem., neut. monogenón, from mónos (G3441), only, and génos (G1085), stock. Unique, one of a kind, one and only.
The best old Greek manuscripts (Aleph B C L) read monogenēs theos (God only and unique) which is undoubtedly the true text.
This is agreed by every major Greek scholar, A.T. Robertson, Bruce Metzger, Daniel Wallace to name a few.
I hope this helps you understand better.
Dr.G
monogenḗs; gen. monogenoús, masc.-fem., neut. monogenón, from mónos (G3441), only, and génos (G1085), stock. Unique, one of a kind, one and only.
The best old Greek manuscripts (Aleph B C L) read monogenēs theos (God only and unique) which is undoubtedly the true text.
This is agreed by every major Greek scholar, A.T. Robertson, Bruce Metzger, Daniel Wallace to name a few.
I hope this helps you understand better.
Dr.G
Okay but where in Scripture does it say that? It seems as though you are saying only the "original autographs" were perfect?
Can you point me to Scripture that states that only the Original Autographs are infallible and pure?
If that is true, then about what Jesus said Luke 4:4?
"And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God."
How about Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
And what about Psalm 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
Again, if we do not have a perfect written Standard, then how are we even sure that we are saved?
Better yet, how do we even know we are saved, if we have no perfect, written record?
Can you point me to Scripture that states that only the Original Autographs are infallible and pure?
If that is true, then about what Jesus said Luke 4:4?
"And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God."
How about Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
And what about Psalm 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
Again, if we do not have a perfect written Standard, then how are we even sure that we are saved?
Better yet, how do we even know we are saved, if we have no perfect, written record?
C
Let answer the first part in that Jesus was speaking of "word" (Greek, Rhema) of the Old Testament. Jesus was not speaking to the future letters written in the New Testament. The Greek word "rhema" means a literal voice spoken. Keep Jesus' statement in their historical context please.
Second the rest of the passages you cited need to be looked in their historical context too. Look up the Hebrew word's you are using and understand the meaning from when they are being used and spoken.
Also you need to remember that people were being saved without the scriptures during the first 3 to 4 centuries. People were making copies of the letters but nobody had all of them. Its not about having the scriptures in order to be saved. Its about hearing the message and believing in faith the redemptive work of Jesus the Messiah. You don't need the Bible to preach the message and have people be saved. You need Jesus only to be saved.
Dr.G
Second the rest of the passages you cited need to be looked in their historical context too. Look up the Hebrew word's you are using and understand the meaning from when they are being used and spoken.
Also you need to remember that people were being saved without the scriptures during the first 3 to 4 centuries. People were making copies of the letters but nobody had all of them. Its not about having the scriptures in order to be saved. Its about hearing the message and believing in faith the redemptive work of Jesus the Messiah. You don't need the Bible to preach the message and have people be saved. You need Jesus only to be saved.
Dr.G
i think you should consider looking at the short video in this thread --------> NIV, RSV & ASV: The Anti-christ bibles identified Part 2 by Amazing Discoveries
God has put His laws on their hearts and they believed the gospel even though they did not have all scripture or even no scripture but they had to learn some way or another in order to grow in faith.
i hear what you are saying but also remember Jesus told us that we shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth out of God's mouth.
Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
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And we need the word of God (the Sword of the Spirit) to fight the enemy too.
Ephesians 6:17 (KJV)
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
Peace.
i hear what you are saying but also remember Jesus told us that we shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth out of God's mouth.
Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
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And we need the word of God (the Sword of the Spirit) to fight the enemy too.
Ephesians 6:17 (KJV)
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
Peace.
C
First, they learned from the apostles especially Paul who wrote to the Churches with instructions and doctrine so they would understand. That was the whole point. They needed teachers. Read all of Paul's letters and you will see.
Second, the verse you quote is Jesus not speaking to the Church, the Church didn't exist. He was speaking to the devil and not us. The "word of God" is not the N.T because the N.T didn't exist when Jesus said it. He was speaking using the Greek word "rhema" which means the literal voice of God which the prophets heard during their time. Please keep everything in its historical context.
Dr.G
Second, the verse you quote is Jesus not speaking to the Church, the Church didn't exist. He was speaking to the devil and not us. The "word of God" is not the N.T because the N.T didn't exist when Jesus said it. He was speaking using the Greek word "rhema" which means the literal voice of God which the prophets heard during their time. Please keep everything in its historical context.
Dr.G
C
Are you kidding? The Christians did not have the O.T. The scriptures where not in book form but were hand written in scroll form kept by the Jewish priests in synagogues until it was time to read them. Unless you were very wealthy and could afford a copy of a O.T book, you didn't have it. Only the Jews were aloud to touch them or handle them. You really need to study the times of the culture of Jews in the O.T and of the time of Jesus.
W
Well from what you said let's see it this way.Just take the most reliable written word of God that you think you would trust the most and then ask God yourself to correct it and tell you where it needs correction, because mankind might have put some errors in it. You just have to make sure it's really God you are hearing, which requires an intimate relationship with Him. Ask Him, He will reveal it to you! The words still proceed out of His mouth!
Matt 7:7-8
7Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Matt 7:7-8
7Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Yes what you say has truth, the rhema was the written word of God heard and written down by the prophets over a period of a few thousand years from Moses until the birth of Jesus. i think Malachi was the last prophet just before Jesus became flesh.
From the ascension of Jesus the NT was then written by the apostles of Christ..... Luke, Matthew, Mark, Paul, John ect...
But even so the NT is inspired too and part of the word of God.
From the ascension of Jesus the NT was then written by the apostles of Christ..... Luke, Matthew, Mark, Paul, John ect...
But even so the NT is inspired too and part of the word of God.