How to keep the Sabbath.

[homwardbound]

I think the only thing that has been "rendered powerless " is your understanding of the Messiah:

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

So Brother is the Law fulfilled in you yet by Christ yet? It is in me by Christ alone and am not boasting am thankful
Psalm 100:4 Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.
Or are you too busy trying to obey the whole law in the flesh? Just asking not accusing or attacking, trying to understand as you are too

 

[homwardbound]

And we have received the latest and last version.
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
The competitor comes up with a different operating system though.

And that Prophet is and was Christ Jesus, the last of the Prophets, and is the Son of God that obeyed Father 100% led by Father in the power of God
Thank you Chubbena

 

[Isdaniel]

And that Prophet is and was Christ Jesus, the last of the Prophets, and is the Son of God that obeyed Father 100% led by Father in the power of God
Thank you Chubbena

And obeyed sabbath hmmmmm

 

[Isdaniel]

What law is this ?

law of moses and not he ten commanments

 

[Isdaniel]

Law of Moses. What other law could there be?

hmmm the law of moses is not the ten commanments hmmm thats what you dont understand hmmm

 

[just-me]

I don't understand the differences of opinion about circumcision. There is nothing hard to understand unless one fails to comprehend the earthly things that God has ordained relate directly to the heavenly things God has substantiated. Same goes for the seventh day of rest called the Sabbath day. Let's agree and lose the pride.


John 3:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Matthew 13:13-16 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

Isaiah 6:9-11 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,

 

[homwardbound]

Then you are saying you should keep the Sabbath because Christ is its maker?

Are you viewing the one day rest as God said it to be as a rest to one's flesh?
As I see it everyday alike resting in the Spirit of God daily, whether at work at home or at play, Christ to me is the Sabbath rest, resting from my works daily as he already did from the beginning and rested on the seventh day
Just how I see it, and therefore I am not stressed out anymore and God does the loving to all through me.
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a miracle

 

[homwardbound]

ok, I do think the Sabbath is love, I will tell you why:

Exodus 20:6, "But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws."

IT IS LOVE FOR YAH, and SABBATH done properly, after the manner in which Yahshua showed us, we would be also loving our fellow man.

Now the other post Sabbath and Holy Spirit, I dont think they are "physically" one but none really can quantify what the Holy Spirit is, I will say 100% I know the 7th day Sabbath that Yahweh ordained is 100% in line with the Spirit of Yahweh, after all it was ordained by Yahweh, He wont do something in opposition to Himself.

when we look at Isayah 59:21 and Yahchanan 6:63 we see that any words, Laws, Instruction whatever you want to call them that have ever and will ever proceed out of the mouth of Yahweh or Yahshua are SPIRIT, and only Holy comes from their mouths.

however, we can not quantify Yahweh of the things of Yahweh with our simple and finite minds, to do so is error, all we can do is go from what the Scriptures tell us.

So yes the Sabbath is love and if confined to one day a week, then we only love one day a week? I think not, and I really do not think you think this way right?

 

[tkyles1009]

this is why you can not understand, and remain in your trajectory to antichrist land:

Galatians 5
And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law. You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace

Great verse from Galatians 5.

There's only one problem with how you're using it.
We don't seek to be justified by the Law.

We keep the law because we have been justified by Christ Jesus.

 

[homwardbound]

Herose I also want to say you can really tell someones fruits when they do things like this repeatedly and never once say they are wrong or sorry or anything, just run along and then come back and do it again.

Im sorry, you and I disagree on much but you really disgust me right now, I dont want to feel like this, we are both supposed to be followers of Messiah.

I know you are trying to understand, and we each have what we have learned and it is God to straighten us out if we are mistaken and the fruit that is coming out is without pride and boastfulness, God getting all the credit, then I see it to be of God period.
Not by my might, for I have none, by God's might shown to me through Son unto Father to set me free and God said I shall be free indeed> To Love 24/7, by God's strength alone

 

[Hizikyah]

So yes the Sabbath is love and if confined to one day a week, then we only love one day a week? I think not, and I really do not think you think this way right?

This is the default standpoint/misunderstanding of those who want to find fault with Yahweh's 4th Commandment.

Sabbath is not a one day clean up, and then back to the mud pit, it is a meeting time with Yahweh when nothing gets in the way, throughout the week this is impossible to do every day, this day centers you and trains you physically and Spiritually. Spending an uninterrupted 24hrs with Yah every 7th day continues and strengthens the walk the Messiah laid out. But most peoples hearts do not want to understand this or even consider it.

 

[homwardbound]

Nary a peep out of the law keepers about this. Surreal...

Is this more fitting, the Holy Spirit is our connection unto Son and Father. For did not Christ say that the Holy Spirit will not speak of himself but whatever the Father says? So Father through Son is my rest from trying to be like Father and asking with belief that Father will transform me, teach me? Grow me by trust into him, mature me as a banans matures ripe and ready to be eaten

 

[just-me]

conversation with Herosfromthedead

herose can I ask you a question?

I already answered it.

yet you never answer my questions.

may I humbly ask to get an answer from you on a question I want to ask you?

I read through 3 pages, and it seems as though the question couldn’t be, or didn’t want to be answered. Harumph!

 

[homwardbound]

yip i looked it up it does

does circumcision of the heart done by God through Son have better benefits?

 

[buckets]

This is the default standpoint/misunderstanding of those who want to find fault with Yahweh's 4th Commandment.

Sabbath is not a one day clean up, and then back to the mud pit, it is a meeting time with Yahweh when nothing gets in the way, throughout the week this is impossible to do every day, this day centers you and trains you physically and Spiritually. Spending an uninterrupted 24hrs with Yah every 7th day continues and strengthens the walk the Messiah laid out. But most peoples hearts do not want to understand this or even consider it.

While I keep the Sabbath I disagree that it is impossible to be as close to or gain as much from God other days
I won't limit my relationship or ability to grow spiritually to the Sabbath
I do feel I am to keep the Sabbath
I also feel throughout the week their are times when I can gain Spiritually in the same way

One can spend a day focused on God that is not the Sabbath is my point
this does not mean the Sabbath does not have value or purpose because it does

 

[just-me]

does circumcision of the heart done by God through Son have better benefits?

I take it as a collective effort, and the capability given through Christ who was present before the world was in existence. It's all in the Mosaic Law, both of the heart that is the end result, and matters for today, and then the physical that really don't apply to spiritual conception. Physical is certainly not wrong, it just doesn't matter in the Spirit of things given through Christ Jesus.


John 17:4-5 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Deuteronomy 10:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

We still have necks that can't move in the ranks it seems.

 

[homwardbound]

One would think that would be enough to settle the issue.

Okay if one is not put under Law, then if there is no Law there is no commandment and no punishment as was for years prior to Moses.
So without the knowing I need Christ without the Law to show me I need God the Father through Christ, how otherwise would I ever know to make the choice to believe God or not? And thus be led by God in the Spirit of God?

 

[Isdaniel]

While I keep the Sabbath I disagree that it is impossible to be as close to or gain as much from God other days
I won't limit my relationship or ability to grow spiritually to the Sabbath
I do feel I am to keep the Sabbath
I also feel throughout the week their are times when I can gain Spiritually in the same way

One can spend a day focused on God that is not the Sabbath is my point
this does not mean the Sabbath does not have value or purpose because it does

hmm the abbath is a blessed day that is the difference


if I have 7 envelopes and 1-6 has 100 each butthe 7th I put double which would you want the 7th right hmm so is the sabbbth

we worship God everyday but the sabbath has speacial requirements that many find a burden to keep

 

[Isdaniel]

Okay if one is not put under Law, then if there is no Law there is no commandment and no punishment as was for years prior to Moses.
So without the knowing I need Christ without the Law to show me I need God the Father through Christ, how otherwise would I ever know to make the choice to believe God or not? And thus be led by God in the Spirit of God?

hmmm then dont read the bible because that is also a law

 

[Isdaniel]

does circumcision of the heart done by God through Son have better benefits?

hmmm can circumcision of the heart become uncircumcised ?