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Euphemia said:
James, you need to take yourself in hand, dear. Your behaviour is glaringly adolescent.
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And this from the person who likes to be rude and insulting as they cannot defend their beliefs. I guess you have to somehow deflect from that painful truth

In my opinion I have had no better endorsement of ny beliefs than you not being able to respond to your contradictions that oppose my beliefs

Thank you
 
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eternally-gratefull

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james57 said:
And this from the person who likes to be rude and insulting as they cannot defend their beliefs. I guess you have to somehow deflect from that painful truth

In my opinion I have had no better endorsement of ny beliefs than you not being able to respond to your contradictions that oppose my beliefs

Thank you
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yet, like everyone else you say has not answered you, She did.

Wow dude, You seriously need some help.
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
I noticed that the phrase "the law of righteousness" does not exist in the bible. The phrase law of righteousness only occurs twice in one verse.

But Israel, which followed after a law of righteousness, has not attained to a law of righteousness. Romans 9:31​

Clearly this term is somewhat ambiguous because it has a double meaning: the law of Moses (letter) and the righteousness required by the law of Moses. Of course, that's just the way Paul wrote.
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Is it not the same as Paul stating

Christ is the end of the law unto righteousness?

I take your point, but i have many tines heard the expression used. I genuinely thought all were aware of it
 
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james57

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
I noticed that the phrase "the law of righteousness" does not exist in the bible. The phrase law of righteousness only occurs twice in one verse.

But Israel, which followed after a law of righteousness, has not attained to a law of righteousness. Romans 9:31​

Clearly this term is somewhat ambiguous because it has a double meaning: the law of Moses (letter) and the righteousness required by the law of Moses. Of course, that's just the way Paul wrote.
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Anyway thank you for telling ne that

Its just that as Paul keeps mentioning it in a roundabout way without using those exact words it us something I and others have latched onto i guess( rom 3:20-22, rom 10:4, gal 2:21, Phil 3:9)

The reason I use it specifically is because as you know i believe law exists, but not a law of righteousness. That for me is key, so I use that expression
 
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Your beliefs are contradictory. For all your lame commentary, I must be done with you. Certainly you must have something better to do. I know I do!

james57 said:
And this from the person who likes to be rude and insulting as they cannot defend their beliefs. I guess you have to somehow deflect from that painful truth

In my opinion I have had no better endorsement of ny beliefs than you not being able to respond to your contradictions that oppose my beliefs

Thank you
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Euphemia said:
Your beliefs are contradictory. For all your lame commentary, I must be done with you. Certainly you must have something better to do. I know I do!
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Now that gives me a wry smile. You say my beliefs are contradictory when you have shown some of the most contradictory beliefs I have ever seen on a debating website
I'm glad you have something better to do, for debate is impossible with you, you simply refuse to address your obvious inconsistencies
 
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james57 said:
Now that gives me a wry smile. You say my beliefs are contradictory when you have shown some of the most contradictory beliefs I have ever seen on a debating website
I'm glad you have something better to do, for debate is impossible with you, you simply refuse to address your obvious inconsistencies
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Nothing I've said is contradictory. You are just in confusion. I think you just like to argue.
 
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james57 said:
You wrote:

Absolutely non christians have no power to say no to sin

I replied:

You believe Paul is speaking as a christian in rom 7:14-25

He said in those verses he was sold as a slave to sin. He could not do the good he wanted to do but rather the evil he did not want to do, what he hated to do he did.(in other words paul had no power to say no to sin)

You are all over the place here

You responded:

Every word Paul wrote was as a believer.

Contradiction on your part with no effort to repudiate it.

You stated:

''It is the mark of a christian that addiction to a life of sin I broken?''


I responded:

Yet you believe in rom 7:14-25 Paul is speaking of his christian life

Wisdom is always proved right by its inconsistencies

You responded:
The wisdom of God is right. No inconsistency.


No effort made to repudiate your contradiction


You wrote:
That is a complete untruth. Unbelievers have no power to say no to sin, where Christians have that ability...as did Paul.


I responded:

Absolutely non christians have no power to say no to sin

You believe Paul is speaking as a christian in rom 7:14-25

He said in those verses he was sold as a slave to sin. He could not do the good he wanted to do but rather the evil he did not want to do, what he hated to do he did.(in other words paul had no power to say no to sin)

You are all over the place here


You responded

Every word Paul wrote was as a believer.

No effort made to repudiate your contradiction

On top of that you refused to address the following:

As a Pharisee you believe Paul obeyed the law to the nth

As a christian you believe Paul could not do the good he wanted to do but rather the evil he did not want to do, what he hated to do he did
You also believe Paul the christian had all manner of concupiscence aroused in him by sin through the law. Sin grew/ got stronger in Paul the christian

According to your beliefs Paul the Pharisee sinned less than Paul the Christian''



As you can see, every time I addressed your points and showed your inconsistencies you failed to address them with your responses
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Here you are. And the list of questions I asked you I a separate post is here too, they make interesting reading
 
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eternally-gratefull

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james57 said:
Here you are. And the list of questions I asked you I a separate post is here too, they make interesting reading
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Paul thought he was ok commiting murder.

yep. this proves just how much Paul wanted to do good. He watered down the law. He would have never admitted he was a person who committed the sin of coveting what his neighbor had, that would have been below him, and a slam on his character..

Yet you want us to believe otherwise.

Your the one who has issues, You can never explain this, even though many people (not just us too) have asked you to explain that, All you do is mock, rebuke, and arrogantly make false accusations.

Your the one wiht the issue, sadly, I feel the issue is getting out of hand..
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Paul thought he was ok commiting murder.

yep. this proves just how much Paul wanted to do good. He watered down the law. He would have never admitted he was a person who committed the sin of coveting what his neighbor had, that would have been below him, and a slam on his character..

Yet you want us to believe otherwise.

Your the one who has issues, You can never explain this, even though many people (not just us too) have asked you to explain that, All you do is mock, rebuke, and arrogantly make false accusations.

Your the one wiht the issue, sadly, I feel the issue is getting out of hand..
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I quite agree.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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james57 said:
You are a master at evasion aren't you.
And i don't blame you. Your beliefs are indefensible, so what else can you do?
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well she could be like you, When I can't win, I just ignore the one who is against me,, because I have nothing else.
 
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Romans 14:22 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
 
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james57 said:
You are a master at evasion aren't you.
And i don't blame you. Your beliefs are indefensible, so what else can you do?
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Jesus is my Master. I can only speak what His word says. Evasion is not my thing...so you are accusing me of something I am not doing. I very kindly answered your query early on, but now because you cannot comprehend the truth of the answers you are getting from myself and others, you become abusive. This is a typical tactic of self-lauding characters. Your answers are in the word, and found in Jesus, who is right beside you pleading with you to open your spiritual ears.
 
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