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yoninah

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This is a misrepresentation of what cessationists believe.
I made no mention that my post was written about cessationism - and my post was not about cessationism. It was about the mindset that I was writing about.
 
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I made no mention that my post was written about cessationism - and my post was not about cessationism. It was about the mindset that I was writing about.
OK..sorry if I took it wrongly...many continuationists claim that those who don't believe in their view in how the Holy Spirit works today, and the assertions of some charismatics, are committing the unpardonable sin.

I personally do not make many statements on this issue because I am not sure if the various "sign gifts" are applicable today, or won't be used at some point, but I am not confident that those who claim them are trustworthy due to erratic behavior and words on other topics.

I have one sound-thinking friend who says he speaks in tongues so that is one reason why I don't claim that tongues aren't a gift today. I guess there's a big difference between Pentecostals and charismatics anyways.
 
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Amen...Or too..in my experience..it was what I was religiously taught...and we defend our "sacred cows" to the death...:)

Hello blondieindahouse
IMO It's because,although people see what the scripture says,they may not understand the scripture used.:)
 
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OK..sorry if I took it wrongly
Okay.

Let me repeat myself - if a person is more concerned to defend their theological standpoint then, when God moves outside the strictures of their personal theology, the danger is that they will condemn God as being satan. It's what the Pharisees did and we should *all* be warned. None of us has perfect theology.
 
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I seems that God will always be caught in the act of "being Himself"...no matter what we think ...:cool:

Okay.

Let me repeat myself - if a person is more concerned to defend their theological standpoint then, when God moves outside the strictures of their personal theology, the danger is that they will condemn God as being satan. It's what the Pharisees did and we should *all* be warned. None of us has perfect theology.
 
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yoninah

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I seems that God will always be caught in the act of "being Himself"...no matter what we think ...:cool:
Yep. It's almost as if He enjoys being Himself in the face of our wrong beliefs about Him :)
 
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Okay.

Let me repeat myself - if a person is more concerned to defend their theological standpoint then, when God moves outside the strictures of their personal theology, the danger is that they will condemn God as being satan. It's what the Pharisees did and we should *all* be warned. None of us has perfect theology.
Scripture is the basis for reasoning for a believer, though, and if the "move" doesn't comport with Scripture, there's solid reason to suspect it is not of God.

Too many of the activities of some charismatics are bizarre, serve no purpose, and are counter-Christianity. An example of this is grave-sucking..claiming that there is a residual anointing within the bones of a dead prophet. The individuals who practice grave-sucking try to extract this residual anointing in order to gain the powers of the prophet.

Christians should not be naïve. Acceptance of some of these practices reflects a gullible mind. So do things like conspiracy theories that I hear from many Christians.

To be honest, the gullibility of some Christians can be disheartening...but I know that immaturity plays a role, and also that there are tares and wheat.
 
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LOL..I agree...I love watching Jesus in the gospels....I'm sure He did things on the Sabbath on purpose... to agitate those "religious folks "...but I'm also sure He mostly healed them on the Sabbath because He loved them dearly and wants them whole...

Yep. It's almost as if He enjoys being Himself in the face of our wrong beliefs about Him :)
 
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Too many of the activities of some charismatics are bizarre...
I really don't know why you keep using labels to try and speak others down, sparkman. If you don't like some labels people go under, a move of God through them is going to be a real problem for you. The Bible shows us that God uses even the disobedient and rebellious to bring His will to bear to earth (the Babylonians judging Judah and Israel that Habakkuk objected to) and to speak to men and women (Balaam and King Neco). To give just three examples.

God chooses whoever He chooses. It's up to us to recognise God. Our theology gets in the way far too often because our theology is imperfect and, very often, downright wrong because we fail to understand the Scriptures correctly.
 
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yoninah

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LOL..I agree...I love watching Jesus in the gospels....I'm sure He did things on the Sabbath on purpose... to agitate those "religious folks "...but I'm also sure He mostly healed them on the Sabbath because He loved them dearly and wants them whole...
I agree, I agree! You're probably going a bit *too* far in what you write but - hey! - I still agree!
 
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I really don't know why you keep using labels to try and speak others down, sparkman. If you don't like some labels people go under, a move of God through them is going to be a real problem for you. The Bible shows us that God uses even the disobedient and rebellious to bring His will to bear to earth (the Babylonians judging Judah and Israel that Habakkuk objected to) and to speak to men and women (Balaam and King Neco). To give just three examples.

God chooses whoever He chooses. It's up to us to recognise God. Our theology gets in the way far too often because our theology is imperfect and, very often, downright wrong because we fail to understand the Scriptures correctly.
If their behavior and reputation comports with Scripture, then I have reason to extend credibility..until then I don't think God expects me to blindly follow lunatics. And some behavior in certain circles reflects that of lunatics.
 
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I see that for some there is a preconceived pattern of behaviour by which sisters and brothers would be judged acceptable by.
 
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yoninah

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If their behavior and reputation comports with Scripture, then I have reason to extend credibility..until then I don't think God expects me to blindly follow lunatics. And some behavior in certain circles reflects that of lunatics.
Again, I have not said anything about you following anyone not living according to Christ. What I've pointed out to you is that God speaks and uses people that are not our idea of the people God should be using. Rahab the harlot (not ex-harlot) was used by God to save his spies at Jericho. Tamar who slept with her father-in-law becomes the mother of David and of the Christ. God uses whoever He chooses and, if we reject the channel, we are in danger of rejecting the purposes of God.

*All* of us are in danger. Not just you, not just me. We must live righteously but expect God to use whoever He chooses - even the people we dislike or don't agree with.
 
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Again, I have not said anything about you following anyone not living according to Christ. What I've pointed out to you is that God speaks and uses people that are not our idea of the people God should be using. Rahab the harlot (not ex-harlot) was used by God to save his spies at Jericho. Tamar who slept with her father-in-law becomes the mother of David and of the Christ. God uses whoever He chooses and, if we reject the channel, we are in danger of rejecting the purposes of God.

*All* of us are in danger. Not just you, not just me. We must live righteously but expect God to use whoever He chooses - even the people we dislike or don't agree with.
I agree God uses some unlikely characters. :)