If all the Bibles disappeared would there still be enough revelation to know Jesus?
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By the apostles, letters of the apostles, oral repeating of the apostles words. Writings we're already in place by the 1st century. Not the whole canon but the Old Testament and gospel accounts like Mark and a few of Pauls letters.
This is why in many of the new testament letters they had to address false teachings.
This is why in many of the new testament letters they had to address false teachings.
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Amen , The holy spirit speaks and men wrote it down for us now
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
2 Peter 1:19-21 KJV
Gods spirit is where the holy scriptures came from the spirit Will Never exist independent from what he’s said because he cannot lie it’s why scripture is so important the knowledge in them can save us by bringing the Holy Ghost to believers of the word
“But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; and that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.”
2 Timothy 3:14-17 KJV
the holy spirit comes through believing what God has said He’s always been speaking and causing his people to write it down for the following generations
“And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.”
Luke 24:27
everything we can know about God originates from scripture
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
1 Corinthians 15:3
The spirit is a gift to those who believe his word and will always agree to his word and share his word in scripture. It’s how we know truth and how we know god will always fulfill what’s written because he spoke it first and said he would
If the spirit comes through Gods word and agrees with Gods word we can trust the spirit , if the spirit claims other things other ways we can know it’s not the same spirit
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
2 Peter 1:19-21 KJV
Gods spirit is where the holy scriptures came from the spirit Will Never exist independent from what he’s said because he cannot lie it’s why scripture is so important the knowledge in them can save us by bringing the Holy Ghost to believers of the word
“But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; and that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.”
2 Timothy 3:14-17 KJV
the holy spirit comes through believing what God has said He’s always been speaking and causing his people to write it down for the following generations
“And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.”
Luke 24:27
everything we can know about God originates from scripture
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
1 Corinthians 15:3
The spirit is a gift to those who believe his word and will always agree to his word and share his word in scripture. It’s how we know truth and how we know god will always fulfill what’s written because he spoke it first and said he would
If the spirit comes through Gods word and agrees with Gods word we can trust the spirit , if the spirit claims other things other ways we can know it’s not the same spirit
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Perhaps. But many of the new believers were not Jewish and had no ties to the OT. The answer is actually also the answer to "How did Paul, Peter, John, etc. know what to write in their letters?" You know, the same letters we know to be the word of God today.
Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me..."
And also, "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does."
Today, it's difficult to imagine living a life by the Spirit (and one so contrary to cultural norms) without being able to justify it with "It's Biblical".
Paul wrote to Timothy: "You, however, have observed my teaching, my conduct, my purpose, my faith, my patience, my love, my perseverance, my persecutions, and the sufferings that came upon me..."
It was a way of life passed down through close relationship much like Jesus had with His disciples. The disciples "discipled" according to the way in which they were nurtured by the Lord. How could they know any other way and why would they seek another way except the way the Lord treated them?
Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me..."
And also, "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does."
Today, it's difficult to imagine living a life by the Spirit (and one so contrary to cultural norms) without being able to justify it with "It's Biblical".
Paul wrote to Timothy: "You, however, have observed my teaching, my conduct, my purpose, my faith, my patience, my love, my perseverance, my persecutions, and the sufferings that came upon me..."
It was a way of life passed down through close relationship much like Jesus had with His disciples. The disciples "discipled" according to the way in which they were nurtured by the Lord. How could they know any other way and why would they seek another way except the way the Lord treated them?
They learned everything from prophecy written since the world began and it was fuflilled in thier day through Jesus , what they learned from him they then wrote again to witness it until the end. Thier conformations came from the law and prophets
and God confirmed tbier purpose through signs and miracles as they had believed and recorded what Jesus had taught them and God has fulfilled in them
what was written was being fulfilled and they were then recording the fulfillment of those things and preaching the revelation from them
“Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: ( ot)
that Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.” ( nt)
Acts 26:22-23 KJV
God will always remain true to his words written and spread into the earth
and God confirmed tbier purpose through signs and miracles as they had believed and recorded what Jesus had taught them and God has fulfilled in them
what was written was being fulfilled and they were then recording the fulfillment of those things and preaching the revelation from them
“Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: ( ot)
that Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.” ( nt)
Acts 26:22-23 KJV
God will always remain true to his words written and spread into the earth
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How so? Because it's "Biblical"? 
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..."
This is all true, of course, but should not be considered outside of the pattern of Jesus and the disciples, where the Lord spent the last years of His life with those under His care.
Just to be clear: we have the benefit of scripture today and we would be wrong to not use it. But saying one can life "Biblically" by knowing the scriptures without being led by the Spirit and without connection to the saints is, ironically, un-Biblical.
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..."
This is all true, of course, but should not be considered outside of the pattern of Jesus and the disciples, where the Lord spent the last years of His life with those under His care.
Just to be clear: we have the benefit of scripture today and we would be wrong to not use it. But saying one can life "Biblically" by knowing the scriptures without being led by the Spirit and without connection to the saints is, ironically, un-Biblical.
when talking about the Bible yes people had the Bible (The OT, Torah) and it was ALREADY translated into Greek (the septugint) by the time of Jesus.
The letters of the New Testament were circulated round all the churches and copied many times, as was the gospels. They werent collated into the 66 books we know as the Bible today until about 300 AD but they were available in Greek. Before being translated into Latin, German, English, etc.
The letters of the New Testament were circulated round all the churches and copied many times, as was the gospels. They werent collated into the 66 books we know as the Bible today until about 300 AD but they were available in Greek. Before being translated into Latin, German, English, etc.
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For those who have Bibles Brother Rough ( Rom 1:18-20) And for those who do not, all they have to do is look around!! LOL Could any person make the anomy of man or woman? Could any man create all the birds of the air, or the animals on the ground? To me brother it is just common sense. Now ones God can be anyone or anything they themselves choose, but we know the truth about creation.
AND!! the best part we also know where we are headed! I do not argue with people about this, Jesus himself met me personal in a mop closet in College!! So if everyone in the world said I was wrong, I would just smile and move forward. Jesus has been so very kind to me, and as my first name is Mark, in the Greek my name means grace, and I am so thankful to Jesus for everything he has done for me, and through me has helped so many!!( 1 Thess 5:18) THIS!!!! is how one can stay in his very will!!
AND!! the best part we also know where we are headed! I do not argue with people about this, Jesus himself met me personal in a mop closet in College!! So if everyone in the world said I was wrong, I would just smile and move forward. Jesus has been so very kind to me, and as my first name is Mark, in the Greek my name means grace, and I am so thankful to Jesus for everything he has done for me, and through me has helped so many!!( 1 Thess 5:18) THIS!!!! is how one can stay in his very will!!
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A missionary gave an account of one man he met as he was traveling. The man had no access to scripture but the Spirit had been showing him things and he had been living by them. The preacher showed the man, in the scriptures, more about the Lord and he became a brother in that moment.
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How so? Because it's "Biblical"?
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..."
This is all true, of course, but should not be considered outside of the pattern of Jesus and the disciples, where the Lord spent the last years of His life with those under His care.
Just to be clear: w
“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
2 Peter 1:16-21 KJV
have the benefit of scripture today and we would be wrong to not use it. But saying one can life "Biblically" by knowing the scriptures without being led by the Spirit and without connection to the saints is, ironically, un-Biblical.
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..."
This is all true, of course, but should not be considered outside of the pattern of Jesus and the disciples, where the Lord spent the last years of His life with those under His care.
Just to be clear: w
“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
2 Peter 1:16-21 KJV
have the benefit of scripture today and we would be wrong to not use it. But saying one can life "Biblically" by knowing the scriptures without being led by the Spirit and without connection to the saints is, ironically, un-Biblical.
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..."
yes exactly but I would look here to see what I was saying
“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. ( New Testament )
For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. ( transfiguration )
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
2 Peter 1:16-21 KJV
what I’m saying is if it’s in the Bible it’s the word of the Holy Ghost whether the ot which was behind the veil in Moses law , prophecy when the veil was being slowly lifted to reveal truth and clarity or the New Testament when the veil was torn and removed to offer revelation from heaven
scripture is the word of God when he speaks it is meant to convey to man everything we need to know and understand to come home and live with him forever.
“ we have the benefit of scripture today and we would be wrong to not use it. But saying one can life "Biblically" by knowing the scriptures without being led by the Spirit and without connection to the saints is, ironically, un-Biblical.”
The spirit is in the word and gets into us when we hear and believe .Do you know what common and unbreakable bond we have with them ? They believed rhe sams scriptures given from the same God that we do the law and prophets that witness of Christ the messiah . How is it in unbiblical to agree with the same words they did ? And how would that change their wotness to future generations of the things they heard and believed ?
there is no connection to God of it doesn’t hear and believe and come to agreement with his word. There is no such thing as a saint without they heard and agreed with scripture , no such thing as a Christian who hasn’t heard and believed the gospel which the apostles all believed and preached as well as the prophets beforehand had preached before they were fulfilled
there’s no faith or understanding without scripture is my point. The ot saints believes the gospel that was in prophecy , Jesus fuflilled it , and the apostles and prophets of the new testament witnessed it’s truth
There’s nothing in biblical about accepting the Bible as the word Gkd has spoken and given to the world to hear and believe it’s the only Reason he’s given it and caused it to be written.
It’s meant to teach our minds And hearts the truth of God, mankind , the world and also offer all the promises to at are written and sure. If we stray from those witnesses and promises that would be the definition of un biblical
there are Many books with many words written by mankind , the Bible is the book full of what God actually has to say to us and the gospel is the true and clear message of God to his children we need only hear and believe it as the apostles all did and also wrote it down so no one could change it and preach lies calling them the word of God.
if somethings “biblical “ it will Be in the Bible.
If there were no bibles then yes there would because even Christ himself made himself known to Paul and made him a witness to preach the gospel he would likewise make witnesses by revealing himself to others as well. The bible may be the word of God but if it dissappeared he has other ways of making himself known
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