If Scripture says God is a God of Justice then why is there so much INjustice?

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saintrose

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This is something that troubles me and I cannot seem to get to a place of rest within my spirit. I believe the bible but so much doesn't seem true - such as Scripture saying God is a God of Justice and yet I see injustice all around me. I have also cried out for justice numerous times and yet still I see evildoers apparently prosper.

Take Nancy Pelosi - one of the most evil politicians yet why is she still alive? Why didn't she die of the coronavirus, or why hasn't God removed her - He leaves her here to continue her wickedness. I've seen this up close too: evil people who God could have easily taken out yet He leaves them to continue doing wickedness. I know someone who has caused so many people a lot of grief yet God keeps her here. I don't usually pray for someone's death but I have prayed for her death.

Can anyone share how they came to terms with what the bible says vs what they're SEEING?
 

Magenta

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Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. Matthew 5:6
 

wolfwint

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This is something that troubles me and I cannot seem to get to a place of rest within my spirit. I believe the bible but so much doesn't seem true - such as Scripture saying God is a God of Justice and yet I see injustice all around me. I have also cried out for justice numerous times and yet still I see evildoers apparently prosper.

Take Nancy Pelosi - one of the most evil politicians yet why is she still alive? Why didn't she die of the coronavirus, or why hasn't God removed her - He leaves her here to continue her wickedness. I've seen this up close too: evil people who God could have easily taken out yet He leaves them to continue doing wickedness. I know someone who has caused so many people a lot of grief yet God keeps her here. I don't usually pray for someone's death but I have prayed for her death.

Can anyone share how they came to terms with what the bible says vs what they're SEEING?
Because of Gods grace! Its still time that people can turn to God. There will be a time this not longer is possible. He then will judge everyone.
Would he judge now, the world would be very empty. So unjustice will be there till an certain timepoint. This in short words.
 

breno785au

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Haha yes ... I FEEL like Habakuk. Maybe it's time to re-read it.
Haha good idea.
Have you thought that you also need to forgive whoever this Nancy person is and pray that thither eyes would be opened?
 

breno785au

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Consider this:

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
II Peter 3:9 NKJV
 

John146

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This is something that troubles me and I cannot seem to get to a place of rest within my spirit. I believe the bible but so much doesn't seem true - such as Scripture saying God is a God of Justice and yet I see injustice all around me. I have also cried out for justice numerous times and yet still I see evildoers apparently prosper.

Take Nancy Pelosi - one of the most evil politicians yet why is she still alive? Why didn't she die of the coronavirus, or why hasn't God removed her - He leaves her here to continue her wickedness. I've seen this up close too: evil people who God could have easily taken out yet He leaves them to continue doing wickedness. I know someone who has caused so many people a lot of grief yet God keeps her here. I don't usually pray for someone's death but I have prayed for her death.

Can anyone share how they came to terms with what the bible says vs what they're SEEING?
The Lord is not ruling this world currently. He will rule one day and then the Judge of the earth will judge righteously.
 
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Isn't it also God who suffers injustice along with us, i'm not sure God is removed from all that goes on but effected by it as we are.
 

Magenta

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Consider this:

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
II Peter 3:9 NKJV


2 Peter3:9 :)
 
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This is something that troubles me and I cannot seem to get to a place of rest within my spirit. I believe the bible but so much doesn't seem true - such as Scripture saying God is a God of Justice and yet I see injustice all around me. I have also cried out for justice numerous times and yet still I see evildoers apparently prosper.

Take Nancy Pelosi - one of the most evil politicians yet why is she still alive? Why didn't she die of the coronavirus, or why hasn't God removed her - He leaves her here to continue her wickedness. I've seen this up close too: evil people who God could have easily taken out yet He leaves them to continue doing wickedness. I know someone who has caused so many people a lot of grief yet God keeps her here. I don't usually pray for someone's death but I have prayed for her death.

Can anyone share how they came to terms with what the bible says vs what they're SEEING?
Here is what you are looking for.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/coronavirus-easter-week-cross-evil-love-chris-durkin
 

Subhumanoidal

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This is something that troubles me and I cannot seem to get to a place of rest within my spirit. I believe the bible but so much doesn't seem true - such as Scripture saying God is a God of Justice and yet I see injustice all around me. I have also cried out for justice numerous times and yet still I see evildoers apparently prosper.

Take Nancy Pelosi - one of the most evil politicians yet why is she still alive? Why didn't she die of the coronavirus, or why hasn't God removed her - He leaves her here to continue her wickedness. I've seen this up close too: evil people who God could have easily taken out yet He leaves them to continue doing wickedness. I know someone who has caused so many people a lot of grief yet God keeps her here. I don't usually pray for someone's death but I have prayed for her death.

Can anyone share how they came to terms with what the bible says vs what they're SEEING?
Perhaps justice isn't going to be served on your time table, but on God's?
Consider the Jews in Egypt, and how long they were there as slaves. And how many Pharaoh's remained alive keeping them in slavery before Justice was delivered.
Think of all the martyrs in the Bible. Or Jesus himself, allowing himself to be taken away by evil men, he had the ability to stop, but didn't.
Even in modern court systems justice is not instant.

Though I'd say if you're praying for the death of others, and finding this as reasonable in God's eyes,, I'd take a step back and look at your own heart.
Also bear in mind that God's justice would also mean you would be dead and in hell, right this moment. For your guilt is equal to those you pray for death, in God's eyes.

And let's not forget that those who believed themselves more holy are the same that had Jesus tortured, mocked and murdered.
I might suggest spending less time demanding justice for the sins of others, and more time grateful for the grace given over your sins.
 

MattforJesus

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This is something that troubles me and I cannot seem to get to a place of rest within my spirit. I believe the bible but so much doesn't seem true - such as Scripture saying God is a God of Justice and yet I see injustice all around me. I have also cried out for justice numerous times and yet still I see evildoers apparently prosper.

Take Nancy Pelosi - one of the most evil politicians yet why is she still alive? Why didn't she die of the coronavirus, or why hasn't God removed her - He leaves her here to continue her wickedness. I've seen this up close too: evil people who God could have easily taken out yet He leaves them to continue doing wickedness. I know someone who has caused so many people a lot of grief yet God keeps her here. I don't usually pray for someone's death but I have prayed for her death.

Can anyone share how they came to terms with what the bible says vs what they're SEEING?
God gave people a choice so many will do wickedness, and all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, and even hypocritical people claiming Christ.

But anybody can cry out to God and be saved, but that is not a guarantee they will not go through problems, but the flesh is temporary, and the saints have eternal life.

God's kingdom is love so we have to have a choice to accept the truth, but God is not responsible for the wickedness of people for they do that.

God rains on the just and the unjust for even the wicked can have good things according to this earth, but they shall proceed no further, but they have their reward on earth.

God will punish all wickedness so they are not getting away with anything.

Also it is the end time, and God is ready to end sin on earth, so He is allowing the world to have their way more than in the past, and will give the world 7 years to have their way for He is going to allow all people that do not love Him to follow the New Age Christ that does not believe in a personal God, and persecutes all people that keep the commandments of God, and the testimony of Jesus, and then He will end sin on earth.

And Paul said evil people shall become worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

God is a God of justice, but He is postponing judgment until later.

But there are many saints that question the same thing, and do not understand, but then they do understand.

Mal 3:13 Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?
Mal 3:14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
Mal 3:15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.

Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

Psa 73:2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.
Psa 73:3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
Psa 73:4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.
Psa 73:5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
Psa 73:6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.
Psa 73:7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.
Psa 73:8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.
Psa 73:9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.
Psa 73:10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.
Psa 73:11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
Psa 73:12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
Psa 73:13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.

Psa 73:14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
Psa 73:15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.
Psa 73:16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;

Psa 73:17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
Psa 73:18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.
Psa 73:19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

The wicked are not getting away with anything, but people have to suffer their ways until God puts down sin.
 

saintrose

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Haha good idea.
Have you thought that you also need to forgive whoever this Nancy person is and pray that thither eyes would be opened?
I'm sure many people have prayed for her yet she continues in her evil.
 

saintrose

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Consider this:

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
II Peter 3:9 NKJV
Good verse. But what if it's a Christian doing the evil?
 

saintrose

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The Lord is not ruling this world currently. He will rule one day and then the Judge of the earth will judge righteously.
You think the 'god of this world' has total control here?
 

Nehemiah6

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This is something that troubles me and I cannot seem to get to a place of rest within my spirit. I believe the bible but so much doesn't seem true - such as Scripture saying God is a God of Justice and yet I see injustice all around me. I have also cried out for justice numerous times and yet still I see evildoers apparently prosper.
The fact is that God is not directly intervening in the affairs of men at this time. Rather, He has given the Church the mandate to preach the Gospel to every creature, and in all the nations. Those who believe are saved. Those who do not believe are damned (Mk 16:15,16). Judgment will come only after the Second Coming of Christ.

On the other hand, God has allowed Satan to control and influence the evildoers until the Second Coming of Christ. And one of the greatest evils is the injustice which is all around us. And things will get worse until the Antichrist takes control for 3 1/2 years.

If there was true justice in America, Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, Nadler, Waters, etc. and all the Deep State operatives from the Obama administration would have been behind bars a long time ago. But they are all free, and continue to do their evil deeds, while the weak and ineffective RINOs look on.

Take the example of Nancy Pelosi. When she publicly tore up the SOTU address after Trump finished, she committed a felony. Which means that the Attorney General should have had her arrested immediately, tried, and convicted. The same applied to Schumer when he threatened Supreme Court justices with assassinations (veiled threats). But the AG is not as tough as he makes himself out to be, otherwise he would have cleaned out the DOJ and the FBI by now, and put these criminal politicians behind bars.
 

saintrose

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That's a good overview but still doesn't solve the problem of evil.

When I was searching during my own dark time of testing I came across a well-written article by a young woman who had been a Christian and was in service to Him somewhere. She was raped and after that said that she didn't feel like she fit in the world of believers anymore and walked away from her faith. Where IS God when injustice happens? Where IS He when we cry out to Him and He remains silent? I know my questions aren't new but they do trouble the mind.

I think we tuck away these doubts and hope we never have to actually LOOK at them but then something happens and there they are right in your face - and God does nothing. Like what happened to that young woman. Where WAS God? Why didn't He help her? I know that theologians have wrestled with the problem of evil and it doesn't look like any have really done a good job of explaining it - unless someone knows some works that have eased the minds of those who question.
 

saintrose

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The fact is that God is not directly intervening in the affairs of men at this time. Rather, He has given the Church the mandate to preach the Gospel to every creature, and in all the nations. Those who believe are saved. Those who do not believe are damned (Mk 16:15,16). Judgment will come only after the Second Coming of Christ.

On the other hand, God has allowed Satan to control and influence the evildoers until the Second Coming of Christ. And one of the greatest evils is the injustice which is all around us. And things will get worse until the Antichrist takes control for 3 1/2 years.

If there was true justice in America, Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, Nadler, Waters, etc. and all the Deep State operatives from the Obama administration would have been behind bars a long time ago. But they are all free, and continue to do their evil deeds, while the weak and ineffective RINOs look on.

Take the example of Nancy Pelosi. When she publicly tore up the SOTU address after Trump finished, she committed a felony. Which means that the Attorney General should have had her arrested immediately, tried, and convicted. The same applied to Schumer when he threatened Supreme Court justices with assassinations (veiled threats). But the AG is not as tough as he makes himself out to be, otherwise he would have cleaned out the DOJ and the FBI by now, and put these criminal politicians behind bars.
Prime examples of evildoers. Why are these people walking while others don't? It's more involved than what you have presented (what you have been 'told' to believe. I suggest you read Henry Makow - it will take some time to go through his site to understand who really controls America) But it's still the same concept - evildoers getting away with evil.