If you knew you had one week to live, what would be different in your life with God?
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They were the points of the scriptures placed there. You have apparently been looking at people too much, for if you want answers, as you suggested by saying you didn't judge Jason, then why wasn't the scriptures he mentioned your argument? They were plain as day to me, the scriptures that is. So let me ask you..what do you see in the scriptures [from God] that I posted? And the part of treating your neighbor as yourself is not wrong comment ...you lost me there. Are you suggesting that the comments of "Jason was over his head" etc...is how you desire to be treated? It would be silly for you to suggest I am saying that being treated like yourself is not also my conclusion, based on scripture. Like I said, this will either be applied or attacked.
They were the points of the scriptures placed there. You have apparently been looking at people too much, for if you want answers, as you suggested by saying you didn't judge Jason, then why wasn't the scriptures he mentioned your argument? They were plain as day to me, the scriptures that is. So let me ask you..what do you see in the scriptures [from God] that I posted? And the part of treating your neighbor as yourself is not wrong comment ...you lost me there. Are you suggesting that the comments of "Jason was over his head" etc...is how you desire to be treated? It would be silly for you to suggest I am saying that being treated like yourself is not also my conclusion, based on scripture. Like I said, this will either be applied or attacked.
Also keep in mind you have taken Jason out of context. He never said we would not struggle with sin, he said that God had victory over it in us. And that it is now something we have victory over, Our track record is not his point. And he also said scripture points to forgiveness of confessed sin. So keep it in context to what he said. And to what scripture says.
C
I don't feel it's right to be passing judgment on anyone here even if they were banned. I don't believe Christ would want us to be engaging in such behavior. The bible teaches us to love one another irregardless of what they say or do in fact it says to turn the other cheek. Being Christian means to be like Christ. I am not perfect and never profess to be, but I choose to show love and compassion to those who hurt me.
No he never said struggle with sin no more, because temptation he understood would not wain in its attack, but what you are right in saying is the Christian can see this as only an attack of powerless conclusion. We have the ability to be faithful and in that faithfulness to God thru Christ we are handed victory in the power of the Spirit that now lives in us. This was Jason point my point and scriptures point.
If you feel you cannot stop from sinning you are in trouble scripturally. Not my call not Jason's.whether we are perfect in the availability of the complete victory found in Him is a measure then of our faithfulness, that God has given grace by means of forgiveness of confessed sin. But if you are trying to get me to say confessed need not be in that statement, you would be Scripturally wrong. Paul also concedes to the struggle of sins voice, but never concedes to it's authority over Gods victory in Christ Jesus. I must finish with that person/God or it doesn't work. It is the Jesus in us that first off gives us the chance at victory, and secondly aims to complete it. The question then becomes is He able to complete it in you? How faithful are you? Is, both, the answer and the question. Valiant Warrior, I don't see the connection between his statement and a conflict of interests...it is how you are taking it to me.
If you feel you cannot stop from sinning you are in trouble scripturally. Not my call not Jason's.whether we are perfect in the availability of the complete victory found in Him is a measure then of our faithfulness, that God has given grace by means of forgiveness of confessed sin. But if you are trying to get me to say confessed need not be in that statement, you would be Scripturally wrong. Paul also concedes to the struggle of sins voice, but never concedes to it's authority over Gods victory in Christ Jesus. I must finish with that person/God or it doesn't work. It is the Jesus in us that first off gives us the chance at victory, and secondly aims to complete it. The question then becomes is He able to complete it in you? How faithful are you? Is, both, the answer and the question. Valiant Warrior, I don't see the connection between his statement and a conflict of interests...it is how you are taking it to me.
I leave with this: "If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, ALL things have become new." 2 Cor. 5:17
Our Lord never tolerates our prejudices--He is directly opposed to them and puts them to death. We tend to think that God has some special interest in our particular prejudices, and are very sure that He will never deal with us as He has to deal with others. We even say to ourselves, "God has to deal with other people in a very strict way, but of course He knows that my prejudices are all right." But we must learn that God accepts nothing of the old life! Instead of being on the side of our prejudices, He is deliberately removing them from us. It is part of our moral education to see our prejudices put to death by His providence, and to watch how He does it. God pays no respect to anything we bring to Him. There is only one thing God wants of us, and that is our unconditional surrender. The Holy Spirit is still working that out in us!!
Our Lord never tolerates our prejudices--He is directly opposed to them and puts them to death. We tend to think that God has some special interest in our particular prejudices, and are very sure that He will never deal with us as He has to deal with others. We even say to ourselves, "God has to deal with other people in a very strict way, but of course He knows that my prejudices are all right." But we must learn that God accepts nothing of the old life! Instead of being on the side of our prejudices, He is deliberately removing them from us. It is part of our moral education to see our prejudices put to death by His providence, and to watch how He does it. God pays no respect to anything we bring to Him. There is only one thing God wants of us, and that is our unconditional surrender. The Holy Spirit is still working that out in us!!
W
"in over head" - Idiom (Figurative): too deeply involved with something, beyond what one can deal with / having more difficulties than one can manage.
Was meant as a mere observation of fact, since Jason stated that he was "too busy" to reply.
Sure, I emphasised "For" and "My friends" as Jason often used those words -- this is very mild in comparison to telling people that they subscribe to a false gospel or that they're scribes & pharisees -- JASON WENT SO FAR AS TO COMPARE ME TO GENTILE DOGS -- How you can highlight our shortcomings, while ignoring his BLATANT OFFENSES is beyond me.
I have no prejudices towards Jason. It is not prejudice to challenge someone's personally offensive comments -- it's called accountability.
Was meant as a mere observation of fact, since Jason stated that he was "too busy" to reply.
Sure, I emphasised "For" and "My friends" as Jason often used those words -- this is very mild in comparison to telling people that they subscribe to a false gospel or that they're scribes & pharisees -- JASON WENT SO FAR AS TO COMPARE ME TO GENTILE DOGS -- How you can highlight our shortcomings, while ignoring his BLATANT OFFENSES is beyond me.
I have no prejudices towards Jason. It is not prejudice to challenge someone's personally offensive comments -- it's called accountability.
V
You assume, as I read from this, that every Christian holds to a "favorite sin" he/she refuses to give up on, and never outgrows that sin. That's pure hogwash! If that is the case of someone who claims to follow Christ, then his/her salvation is actually in question, not because of the sin but because of the attitude.
What you fail to understand about 2 Corinthians 5:17 is that, if there is a "new creature" within us, there is also an "old creature," or "old self." Where did he go? Did Christ slay him? Is he bound in death and unable to function? You can't find anything in the Bible that teaches that, "dead to sin" notwithstanding.
When Paul uses that phrase in Romans 6:11, he says "Even so, consider yourselves dead to sin ... " The word highlighted there is the Greek logizomai (logizomai) and means "to reckon, count, calculate" and actually means "impute" in its most literal sense. We give consideration to each and every circumstance we face. If we do this in the Spirit, then we will never sin. That is our new creature at work.
But we have a problem: The old man is dead, but that doesn't mean he's inactive. Death is just another state of being. There are active, moving dead people all around us, the unbelievers in this world, and that nature is still within us, too.
In Ephesians 4:22 and Colossians 3:9, Paul admonishes us to "lay aside the old self." apotiqemi (apotithemi) is an active verb meaning to physically lay aside, put off to the side, that "old self." We have the choice to do that. We don't always make that choice, but as we are sanctified throughout our lives, we gradually learn to hate all our sin, we gradually learn to apotiqemi our old self in favor of our "new creature."
The Bible doesn't support any need for man to "do" in order to be saved. Instead, it requires only "obedience of faith" (Romans 1:5; 16:26). Paul is simply speaking of the obedience which is faith. Acts 16:31 commands belief for salvation. The lost souls in Israel are said, in Romans 10:16, to be lost because "they did not all head the good news" -- the euaggelion (euaggelion), the Gospel -- which is the proclamation of God's grace as manifest in the gift of Christ.
God made it simple. He commands us to "obey" through belief in Christ. As we are sanctified in Him, we grow more Christlike and less Adam-like. You make it hard by thinking you have to "do" when the reality is the only "have-to" with Christ is to "be" in Him.
What you fail to understand about 2 Corinthians 5:17 is that, if there is a "new creature" within us, there is also an "old creature," or "old self." Where did he go? Did Christ slay him? Is he bound in death and unable to function? You can't find anything in the Bible that teaches that, "dead to sin" notwithstanding.
When Paul uses that phrase in Romans 6:11, he says "Even so, consider yourselves dead to sin ... " The word highlighted there is the Greek logizomai (logizomai) and means "to reckon, count, calculate" and actually means "impute" in its most literal sense. We give consideration to each and every circumstance we face. If we do this in the Spirit, then we will never sin. That is our new creature at work.
But we have a problem: The old man is dead, but that doesn't mean he's inactive. Death is just another state of being. There are active, moving dead people all around us, the unbelievers in this world, and that nature is still within us, too.
In Ephesians 4:22 and Colossians 3:9, Paul admonishes us to "lay aside the old self." apotiqemi (apotithemi) is an active verb meaning to physically lay aside, put off to the side, that "old self." We have the choice to do that. We don't always make that choice, but as we are sanctified throughout our lives, we gradually learn to hate all our sin, we gradually learn to apotiqemi our old self in favor of our "new creature."
The Bible doesn't support any need for man to "do" in order to be saved. Instead, it requires only "obedience of faith" (Romans 1:5; 16:26). Paul is simply speaking of the obedience which is faith. Acts 16:31 commands belief for salvation. The lost souls in Israel are said, in Romans 10:16, to be lost because "they did not all head the good news" -- the euaggelion (euaggelion), the Gospel -- which is the proclamation of God's grace as manifest in the gift of Christ.
God made it simple. He commands us to "obey" through belief in Christ. As we are sanctified in Him, we grow more Christlike and less Adam-like. You make it hard by thinking you have to "do" when the reality is the only "have-to" with Christ is to "be" in Him.
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I just want to say this. If a doctor told me I had one more week to live, my answer would be this. A simple No. God is not done with me and his calling on my life, and whatever illness would it be that was threatening my very existence I would call upon the elders of the church and cast down the illness (demon) IN THE NAME OF JESUS who has power over the enemy and all his darkness. Why? Because Gods Word says I shall have anything I ask in line with his Word and my Faith in him believing his power WITHOUT doubt. (James 1:6-8)(James 5:14-15)
But if I was at peace that I fulfilled the calling the Lord had for me I would seek the Lord and ask him to take me sooner if he was okay with me coming home.
But if I was at peace that I fulfilled the calling the Lord had for me I would seek the Lord and ask him to take me sooner if he was okay with me coming home.