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Once again we do not look for the faults of others nor do we go and seek them out, but when we do see sinful actions we are called to pull them aside and call them out for it.

This does not mean we are not focused on Christ for our salvation, as it means we do focus on Him because we stand firm in everything He laid forth in the scriptures for us to follow.
you still need to be careful...

Matthew 7:2-5 (KJV)
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
 
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you still need to be careful...

Matthew 7:2-5 (KJV)
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

I am careful and know the difference between wrongful judging and righteous judging.

Wrongful judging is when you just flat out accuse and condemn a person for their sinful behaviors........

Righteous judging is when you point out another their sinful behaviors and then help them out in overcoming them, and show them in God's word the proper way to walk in the faith.

If there is no exhortation, esteeming, and we make no attempt to help them then that is what makes it wrongful judging of another. Also notice how in verse 5 that you gave it shows it is only wrong to judge another here if we have not dealt with our own sins first.

After acknowledging and dealing with our sins it says we then have the right to deal with others and theirs, as it is only a hypocrite for a deliberate willful sinner to call another deliberate willful sinner out !!!
 

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you still need to be careful...

Matthew 7:2-5 (KJV)
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
I am careful and know the difference between wrongful judging and righteous judging.

Wrongful judging is when you just flat out accuse and condemn a person for their sinful behaviors........

Righteous judging is when you point out another their sinful behaviors and then help them out in overcoming them, and show them in God's word the proper way to walk in the faith.

If there is no exhortation, esteeming, and we make no attempt to help them then that is what makes it wrongful judging of another. Also notice how in verse 5 that you gave it shows it is only wrong to judge another here if we have not dealt with our own sins first.

After acknowledging and dealing with our sins it says we then have the right to deal with others and theirs, as it is only a hypocrite for a deliberate willful sinner to call another deliberate willful sinner out !!!
I think you missed the meat of the passage...

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

That's why I said one needs to be careful.
 
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KennethC

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I think you missed the meat of the passage...

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

That's why I said one needs to be careful.

No I did not miss that as I use that passage a lot, and on here because some do rebuke and condemn others for sins and leave it at that. Thus they also will be judged in the same manner and those who I see judging this way the funny thing is most of them are OSAS believers.

If you judge a person by following the steps in the bible by pulling them aside and pointing it out to them, then bringing them before others, and they still refuse to listen then the judging done in this case will not considered as wrongfully judging another.

Therefore if I show scripture from God's word that shows how we are to walk in the faith along with the rebuking that is not wrongful judgment and thus I have nothing to worry about as I am following His teachings.

The only people that should worry is those who condemn others, or don't help them out to overcome !!!