Is all scripture plain to understand?
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The 'gospel 'or rather 'a gospel 'was being preached ( that wasn't the death burial and resurrection) that was commanded by Jesus ,which was before the cross ,the burial and resurrection. ( Luke 9.6 ) No verses say there's only one good news , or " it has many names " I don't see the connection with " Christ being one " ? could you elaborate what you mean by ///There cannot possibly be more than one, since Christ is one, and His finished work of redemption is once for all time./// ?
You missed the point....there are many references that clearly illustrate the requirement for baptism. Does it matter who? It is God's word....period.
Example...Luke wrote he book of Acts and it says baptism is required...see 2;38....does that make a difference... there are other books requiring baptism that Luke did or did not write. Does that make a difference?i
At His baptism Christ said...it was required as...completion of the cleansing process...that was not written by Luke.
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Acts 2:38 does not say it’s required, it’s actually a poor translation, and does not show what Peter really said
sadly baptism is to the church what circumcision was to the Jews, they triednto add their form of cleansing to the gospel. And then the Catholic Church made the same mistake by instituting water baptism as an addition t9mthe gospel
both are false gospels, and both should be anathema
sadly baptism is to the church what circumcision was to the Jews, they triednto add their form of cleansing to the gospel. And then the Catholic Church made the same mistake by instituting water baptism as an addition t9mthe gospel
both are false gospels, and both should be anathema
This is BLATANTLY FALSE AND MISLEADING information.
Christian baptism is for Christians, not Jews. The baptism of John the Baptist was for Israel (Jews) but the baptism commanded by Christ is for Christians only. Those who have received Christ as Lord and Savior. These are the ones who have been born again and are in the Body of Christ.
Christian baptism is for Christians, not Jews. The baptism of John the Baptist was for Israel (Jews) but the baptism commanded by Christ is for Christians only. Those who have received Christ as Lord and Savior. These are the ones who have been born again and are in the Body of Christ.
When will you learn that just because you reject something, does not make that thing blatantly false. The world does not revolve around your understanding only.
You cannot understand it because you don't want to see the early Acts period as still time past, gentiles were still excluded from salvation without Israel, until Paul was raised. (Ephesians 2:11-12, Mark 7:27, Romans 11:11).
You cannot understand it because you don't want to see the early Acts period as still time past, gentiles were still excluded from salvation without Israel, until Paul was raised. (Ephesians 2:11-12, Mark 7:27, Romans 11:11).
VII. All things in Scripture are not alike plain in themselves, nor alike clear unto all
p) yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed, and observed for salvation, are so clearly propounded and opened in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the learned, but the unlearned, in a due use of the ordinary means, may attain unto a sufficient understanding of them.(q)
(p) II Pet. 3:16.
(q) Psalm 119:105, 130.
Would you agree with the above statement? why or why not?
p) yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed, and observed for salvation, are so clearly propounded and opened in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the learned, but the unlearned, in a due use of the ordinary means, may attain unto a sufficient understanding of them.(q)(p) II Pet. 3:16.
(q) Psalm 119:105, 130.
Would you agree with the above statement? why or why not?
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the bible provides 1. genealogies. 2. historical location 3. Historical narratives 4. scientific method of study.
The saved person: is able to receive the three areas of Gods word for understanding:
general revelation: by the things made by God
Special Revelation: the word of God
Illumination: by the Holy Spirit in the relationship one has with God through the born-again experience. Knowing Jesus as Lord and savior.
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Yep that's right CS1
God has revealed himself in the two ways. In His word and nature itself. The old saints called them the two books. Book of nature (general revelation) And God's word - The Bible (Special revelation). I remember when I first came across this. I hadn't a clue what the older books/writers mean't by book of nature until one day it all clicked. Psalm 19:ff; Rom 1:18-20. In fact Psalm 19 has both it talks of creation then moves into God's statutes and precepts. Anyhow I'm rambling on again.. time for another cup of tea, I've read one book now I'll look out the window and marvel at the other
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All we have in Acts 2.38 these specific people who Peter was talking to ( Israel) THEY !! had to do something. Poor bible study is extrapolation of this as if its a doctrine or pattern. In the 29 different conversion Accounts in Acts ,not one time does it say " this is the established doctrine for the church " . No Just read what's going ON in Acts and its evident that its a book to be understood as a ' transition ' . Instead of Reading Acts 2 38 as if its the main pattern going forward . Read The letters to the Actual church which inform us of what is the appropriation and order of salvation . Why are people choosing to view the letters to the Church trough a transitional book ?
Yep that's right CS1 God has revealed himself in the two ways. In His word and nature itself. The old saints called them the two books. Book of nature (general revelation) And God's word - The Bible (Special revelation).
I remember when I first came across this. I hadn't a clue what the older books/writers mean't by book of nature until one day it all clicked. Psalm 19:ff; Rom 1:18-20. In fact Psalm 19 has both it talks of creation then moves into God's statutes and precepts. Anyhow I'm rambling on again.. time for another cup of tea, I've read one book now I'll look out the window and marvel at the other
God has revealed himself in the two ways. In His word and nature itself. The old saints called them the two books. Book of nature (general revelation) And God's word - The Bible (Special revelation).I remember when I first came across this. I hadn't a clue what the older books/writers mean't by book of nature until one day it all clicked. Psalm 19:ff; Rom 1:18-20. In fact Psalm 19 has both it talks of creation then moves into God's statutes and precepts. Anyhow I'm rambling on again.. time for another cup of tea, I've read one book now I'll look out the window and marvel at the other
Does it say ' book of nature ' ?
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
VII. All things in Scripture are not alike plain in themselves, nor alike clear unto allp) yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed, and observed for salvation, are so clearly propounded and opened in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the learned, but the unlearned, in a due use of the ordinary means, may attain unto a sufficient understanding of them.(q)
(p) II Pet. 3:16.
(q) Psalm 119:105, 130.
Would you agree with the above statement? why or why not?
p) yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed, and observed for salvation, are so clearly propounded and opened in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the learned, but the unlearned, in a due use of the ordinary means, may attain unto a sufficient understanding of them.(q)(p) II Pet. 3:16.
(q) Psalm 119:105, 130.
Would you agree with the above statement? why or why not?
That's correct without the Holy Spirit no one can truly understand scripture. The bible is amazing, the more I learn, the more I learn that I have more to learn.
My advice to new believers and Old, is to take the Sunday sermon that your Pastor/Minister has given, takes note and study on it that week. Start there! God has given that word to you and your fellow Christians in that community for you to learn, God has given you that message for that week..think about that first!
For personal study, I would say a good study bible would suffice. Not everyone has the time or inkling to go into hours long studies. In fact most modern study bibles contain almost the same information as the older whole bible commentaries. But even at that just a bible and a pen and note pad... And your right read and pray.
Discipleship is key for us all, we are all disciples, young and old in age and spiritual maturity. All pilgrims on the way home. Anyhow, that was me just writing what I was thinking when I read your post