Is America evil?

[Marilyn]

Think of all the stuff that goes on in this country. Abortion, transgender whatever, confiscatory taxation, corruption and theft at the highest levels of government. You could spend all day making a list. Evil is good and good is evil.

If China were doing half the things America does, conservatives would condemn that country. Seems like they look the other way when it’s being done in their own backyard.

Basically what I’m saying is that I’ve lost my love for America. I can’t be a Christian and just excuse this stuff.

The world System is over the whole world and is under the sway of the evil one. (1 John 5: 19)

We are NOT of this world system but under the Lordship of Christ. The Lord will judge this world system very soon. We are to be a voice for righteousness wherever the Lord places us however that is for people, but not expecting the world system to change.

Jesus did not accept Satan`s offer of the world system for the Lord will judge it and set up His righteous government through Israel over the nations.

 

[soberxp]

I had become quite cynical regarding Canada, having re-elected Trudeau twice and what appeared to be just accepting whatever they're told to.
However, the truckers have changed that for me. Seeing it spread to truckers around the globe has made me realize that there are still many people who will stand up for themselves and what they believe in. Regardless of what happens, my attitude has improved.

Are you talking about the shortage of supply chain?

 

[Oblio]

Are you talking about the shortage of supply chain?

The truckers who converged on Ottawa in protest of the lock-downs.

 

[soberxp]

The truckers who converged on Ottawa in protest of the lock-downs.

I saw the news that there is a shortage of goods in supermarkets in Canada. I don't know whether this news has anything to do with what you said.

 

[JStates]

Well, there is America the ideal and America the reality.

The ideal is really the worthwhile part of it. Liberty and Justice For All. Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness. Freedom from want, freedom from fear, freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion. But these are ideals that the Founders were trying to attain. America never really embodied the ideals.

America the reality is ugly, ugly. Mystery Babylon. A great evil in this fallen world. On the verge of inevitable judgment for her wickedness.

I can still say "I love America" but what I mean is that I love those virtues that once made America great, and I love those people who embody them and seek to embody them.

 

[Oblio]

I saw the news that there is a shortage of goods in supermarkets in Canada. I don't know whether this news has anything to do with what you said.

I haven't been out for a while so I don't know if there are shortages. The truckers are protesting the Covid restrictions.

 

[soberxp]

I think people's congresses distinguish between good and evil most of the time, because distinguishing between good and evil produces unnecessary emotions.

Don't think of others as bad as evil. This may alleviate your unnecessary emotions.

You can imagine how God faced the world. God always there, He understood the hearts of mankind , but at the same time, God also loved mankind.

Will God not love America because it is evil?
I think No,He will love America in his way. The sun shines on the earth and the rain moistens the earth. This is his way.

Will you let yourself shine, shine on the street or FB Twitter ， treat sinners kind and forgive sinners as Jesus Christ?

If you are shy, at least think silently in your heart.

Luke 5:23 Whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Rise up and walk?

 

[Nehemiah6]

I can’t be a Christian and just excuse this stuff.

Who's asking you to excuse any of the evil being done in America? Christians must rebuke the works (and workers) of Darkness. At the same time the fact remains that the evildoers are on one side, and ordinary citizens who try to live by a moral code are on the other side. I'm not suggesting they are all Christians, but the evildoers are not the majority. And if there were serious consequences to the evil deeds at the highest levels you have mentioned, they would not be as many as they are.

As to China, does anybody know exactly all the evil which is being perpetrated under godless Communism? Not just within China but all over the world.

 

[soberxp]

Who's asking you to excuse any of the evil being done in America? Christians must rebuke the works (and workers) of Darkness. At the same time the fact remains that the evildoers are on one side, and ordinary citizens who try to live by a moral code are on the other side. I'm not suggesting they are all Christians, but the evildoers are not the majority. And if there were serious consequences to the evil deeds at the highest levels you have mentioned, they would not be as many as they are.

As to China, does anybody know exactly all the evil which is being perpetrated under godless Communism? Not just within China but all over the world.

As a Chinese, I certainly know that the objective evaluation is not exaggerated or belittled. The Chinese Communist Party, which does not believe in God, has done much better than the Americans who believe in God in some aspects. This has always been a difficult problem for me. Why does this phenomenon occur? Does the result of God's Bible's intervention in the world get worse in the end? Just like Jews don't believe in Jesus.

To be honest, some of the reasons for the lack of freedom of belief come from the United States. The United States uses some Chinese with their own beliefs to oppose the Communist Party of China, and then leads to a series of later results. The freedom of belief becomes less free to some extent.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Think of all the stuff that goes on in this country. Abortion, transgender whatever, confiscatory taxation, corruption and theft at the highest levels of government. You could spend all day making a list. Evil is good and good is evil.

If China were doing half the things America does, conservatives would condemn that country. Seems like they look the other way when it’s being done in their own backyard.

Basically what I’m saying is that I’ve lost my love for America. I can’t be a Christian and just excuse this stuff.

I saw the title of your thread and thought to myself, "Hmmmm . . . Is America Righteous?"

Yeah . . . no.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Then we are no different.

Which is kinda my point. Several of you are saying “well, lots of countries do evil things.” Okay. And? That means we are still evil it’s just that there are other countries that are also evil.

Did you ever think your thread would be so difficult . . . bringing forth such a wall of rebuttal? Isn't it amazing?

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Who's asking you to excuse any of the evil being done in America?

Why would you even ask this question? What is he supposed to say to that?

Unbelievable.

 

[Journeyman]

Think of all the stuff that goes on in this country. Abortion, transgender whatever, confiscatory taxation, corruption and theft at the highest levels of government. You could spend all day making a list. Evil is good and good is evil.

If China were doing half the things America does, conservatives would condemn that country. Seems like they look the other way when it’s being done in their own backyard.

Basically what I’m saying is that I’ve lost my love for America. I can’t be a Christian and just excuse this stuff.

Dear brother,
I'm sure you mean,

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1Jn.2:15

But we should continue to love all people in this world as our Master did. When I think of things I did, things I would be ashamed to tell you about, I'm amazed at the love of God in the heart of a person who cared about me in spite of myself.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The Chinese Communist Party, which does not believe in God, has done much better than the Americans who believe in God in some aspects.

Done much better in what respect? Killing off or "disappearing" all those who speak out against repression, oppression, genocide and Chinese propaganda? What about Tibet? What about the Uighurs (Uyghurs)? What about the Christians in China?

However, the Chinese have generally been smarter than the stupid Gwailo (Western barbarians). Since the time of Mao China had the goal to dominate the world, and all along American (and Western) governments ignored this goal and ignored the fact that China was their enemy #1. So they actually helped China to become the world's super power at the expense of the West, by shunting all their industries and technology to China. Now the South China Sea belongs to China, and Taiwan is on the brink of being swallowed up (just like Hong Kong). But we can't blame the Chinese for the stupidity of Westerners in high office.

Wuhan virus was actually an attack on Donald Trump because he was trying to reduce Chinese influence over the American economy. He should have had the guts to shut down all flights and ships from China indefinitely until the matter was resolved and China was held accountable for destroying the world. But he became his own worst enemy and went along with the Chinese program (lockdowns, masking, distancing, and all that useless nonsense). And now it is far too late.

But he should have know that China had already bought out almost everyone in the government of the USA (as well as the universities and research agencies). And now Biden does China's bidding because he has been thoroughly compromised. Fauci actually paid China to destroy America! Can you imagine a more stupid Gwailo? In addition to that China wanted to destroy all Western nations in one fell swoop, and it worked. Wuhan virus became the catalyst for the Great Reset, and millions have died for nothing.

 

[soberxp]

Done much better in what respect? Killing off or "disappearing" all those who speak out against repression, oppression, genocide and Chinese propaganda? What about Tibet? What about the Uighurs (Uyghurs)? What about the Christians in China?

However, the Chinese have generally been smarter than the stupid Gwailo (Western barbarians). Since the time of Mao China had the goal to dominate the world, and all along American (and Western) governments ignored this goal and ignored the fact that China was their enemy #1. So they actually helped China to become the world's super power at the expense of the West, by shunting all their industries and technology to China. Now the South China Sea belongs to China, and Taiwan is on the brink of being swallowed up (just like Hong Kong). But we can't blame the Chinese for the stupidity of Westerners in high office.

Wuhan virus was actually an attack on Donald Trump because he was trying to reduce Chinese influence over the American economy. He should have had the guts to shut down all flights and ships from China indefinitely until the matter was resolved and China was held accountable for destroying the world. But he became his own worst enemy and went along with the Chinese program (lockdowns, masking, distancing, and all that useless nonsense). And now it is far too late.

But he should have know that China had already bought out almost everyone in the government of the USA (as well as the universities and research agencies). And now Biden does China's bidding because he has been thoroughly compromised. Fauci actually paid China to destroy America! Can you imagine a more stupid Gwailo? In addition to that China wanted to destroy all Western nations in one fell swoop, and it worked. Wuhan virus became the catalyst for the Great Reset, and millions have died for nothing.

I will only answer you with Trump's words, fake news.

 

[p_rehbein]

"Evil" is relative. Anything/anyone apart from God is evil at one level or another. So, regarding the question in the Title: America apart from God is evli at some level.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I will only answer you with Trump's words, fake news.

That won't wash. Now the real fakers like CNN and ABC are all collapsing. But Pelosi is shilling for China by telling the stupid American athletes to make sure they keep their mouths shut. If they all had some integrity there would have been a TOTAL BOYCOTT on the Genocide Games in Beijing. Instead everyone is dancing to Xi's tune. Shame on everyone involved with these ridiculous games. And American athletes of Chinese descent are actually rooting for Communist China!

 

[Nehemiah6]

Why would you even ask this question? What is he supposed to say to that? Unbelievable.

What's unbelievable that you did not read what he said in his OP. "I can’t be a Christian and just excuse this stuff. "

 

[soberxp]

@Nehemiah6
Have you ever been to China? Do you know the real China?
Is it true that a government that does not believe in God cannot do the right thing?

Galatians 5:
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

No matter whether you believe the authenticity of the news you are in contact with or not
(trump doesn't believe fake news )
you will be spoiled, and you will be brought into things of hatred, contention, resentment and anger.There may be other negative emotions.

You don't know the Chinese language, so you can't contact and understand the real China.


peace in Jesus name.

 

[Starsdance]

Think of all the stuff that goes on in this country. Abortion, transgender whatever, confiscatory taxation, corruption and theft at the highest levels of government. You could spend all day making a list. Evil is good and good is evil.

If China were doing half the things America does, conservatives would condemn that country. Seems like they look the other way when it’s being done in their own backyard.

Basically what I’m saying is that I’ve lost my love for America. I can’t be a Christian and just excuse this stuff.

I'm not going to comment on America, but you are a sober American and a righteous Christian, you are a good brother