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oldhermit

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MattforJesus said:
That is nice,but what is there to study,for they seem to be self explanatory,and need not investigation in to them.

And if you mean do they apply today,they would,for the two greatest commandments,love God,and love people,is what we follow in the New Testament,and the ten commandments are love towards God,and people.

Paul also said we do not void out the law through faith,but we establish the law,and the law is spiritual,holy,just,and good,the spiritual laws,laws of love,and moral laws.

Jesus took the physical ordinances out of the way,but He did not take the ten commandments away,and when the rich man asked Jesus what must he do to receive eternal life,Jesus said to obey the 6 commandments that had to do with love people,and the rich man said I do that,and He said you lack,sell all you have and give to the poor,which is love people.

So what would there be to study.
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Looks to me like you REALLY need to follow along in this study.
 
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MadebyHim said:
Besides that who likes beginning in middle.
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I agree ! we need to start from the right foundation and right relationship with GOD before we can hope to get things right with fellow man....that is why 'to love God is the first commandment.
 
Willie-T

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MattforJesus said:
That is nice,but what is there to study,for they seem to be self explanatory,and need not investigation in to them.

And if you mean do they apply today,they would,for the two greatest commandments,love God,and love people,is what we follow in the New Testament,and the ten commandments are love towards God,and people.

Paul also said we do not void out the law through faith,but we establish the law,and the law is spiritual,holy,just,and good,the spiritual laws,laws of love,and moral laws.

Jesus took the physical ordinances out of the way,but He did not take the ten commandments away,and when the rich man asked Jesus what must he do to receive eternal life,Jesus said to obey the 6 commandments that had to do with love people,and the rich man said I do that,and He said you lack,sell all you have and give to the poor,which is love people.

So what would there be to study.
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Well................ Let's just consider the one, "Thou shalt not kill."

Almost every time the subject of Child Molesters is mentioned, half the people replying, shout that they should be killed. Now, I'm not arguing their feelings, necessarily, but aren't they going directly against a commandment you just said "needs no investigation into it?"
 
Grace777x70

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The commandment in the New Covenant ( the Old Covenant is a goner now ) is to "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ."

From Him all things will be manifested as His life is bearing His fruit in and through us.

We don't live "by the keeping of" carnal commandments in the New Covenant - we live by the law of the spirit of life in Christ now. The law of love, the law of liberty, the law of faith ( the Law is not of faith ) - the law of Christ Himself.

We love because He has first loved us. It's descriptive of His life being in us - not in the following of a carnal commandment to obey.

John 15:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you.

Jesus is not commanding us to "manifest" love. The original commandment in John 15 is to "abide in Him".

Believing in what He has done and His love for us will release the love of God that is in us and that believing in Christ and "abiding/remaining/staying" in His love and grace towards us will cause love and His life to manifest in and through us.

Jesus' commandments are His enablements and are really descriptive of His life being manifested in us.

This right believing in Christ's love and work for us releases His life in us and fulfills all the intent of the Law which has the 10 commandments in it. We don't live by the 10 commandments in the New Covenant - we live by His life.

We can see Christ's life in the 10 commandments as He is the fulfillment and real substance of them as all scripture is profitable for us.

I like Magenta's view of the 10 commandments in the Old Covenant which is now a goner and obsolete because the true substance has come - Jesus Himself - as being all promises fulfilled in Christ and His life in us.

This is hugely different then following a carnal commandment as it is laid out in the Old Covenant.

I would like to see Oldhermit's take on them for sure in the light of Christ.
 
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MattforJesus said:
That is nice,but what is there to study,for they seem to be self explanatory,and need not investigation in to them.

And if you mean do they apply today,they would,for the two greatest commandments,love God,and love people,is what we follow in the New Testament,and the ten commandments are love towards God,and people.

Paul also said we do not void out the law through faith,but we establish the law,and the law is spiritual,holy,just,and good,the spiritual laws,laws of love,and moral laws.

Jesus took the physical ordinances out of the way,but He did not take the ten commandments away,and when the rich man asked Jesus what must he do to receive eternal life,Jesus said to obey the 6 commandments that had to do with love people,and the rich man said I do that,and He said you lack,sell all you have and give to the poor,which is love people.

So what would there be to study.
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I disagree, I think as Jesus had to show in his great sermon, The ten commands are not as easy to understand as many think. SO many people think that just because they obey the "letter" that they are righteous people. Look at all the jews who claimed to have obeyed since birth.

Yet reality is they did not obey, because those commands were not given to show us how to obey, It was impossible for them to do that. it was given to show us our need for the redeemer when he would come..

As someone said earlier, the ten hang on the two (well actually nine, as the first one is love God.)

Any good study of the ten would have to include the deepest meaning of them, To show us how we have not, and can not keep them,, and are in need of grace 24/7.


 
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interesting how one person would like to discuss the commandments and half a dozen know better than he does, apparently, but waited until now to let everyone know about their higher learning status

as Charlie Brown said, good grief
 
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sure

discuss and thank you
 
Willie-T

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sevenseas said:
interesting how one person would like to discuss the commandments and half a dozen know better than he does, apparently, but waited until now to let everyone know about their higher learning status

as Charlie Brown said, good grief
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The best classes often begin with finding out what the participants believe they know about the subject, and where they stand because of those beliefs. We should always teach FOR the group, and not just AT them.
 
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oldhermit was 'planning a study in the next few weeks !
do we have to wait until he is ready ? and starting with what we already have plenty of teaching on from Jesus is not going to bring more truth and light onto the subject.
The reason people are not doing well with the last 6 commandments is because they ignore/reject the first 4. How can you 'love neighbour if you show no love to God ?
Man is supposed to 'repent and turn, not plough on in the same way as before !
 
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Your post here is what is utter nonsense.. Why wouldn't you want to discuss the ten commandments in depth?

Oldhermit, I'm interested. :) Go ahead and do it...

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UTTER NONSENSE
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Not interested in the 10 Commandments right now, but I could really really use some advice on modern day tithing. I can not seem to get a straight answer on this subject. You seem to be a clear thinker and if you have some wisdom on this subject I would love to have it.
 
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Please understand, I am not a teacher here on CC nor has CC authorized me to be such. I merely wish to present some generaliztions from the commandments for your consideration and discussion.
 
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Perhaps yes. I don't know how much time I'll be able to give CC starting next week, but this sounds like a GREAT idea for a study. I would also vote for starting at the beginning and building the foundation (of love for God) before learning about loving our neighbors :)
 
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oldhermit said:
Please understand, I am not a teacher here on CC nor has CC authorized me to be such. I merely wish to present some generaliztions from the commandments for your consideration and discussion.
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Personally, I think you'll probably do a good job.
 
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oldhermit said:
Please understand, I am not a teacher here on CC nor has CC authorized me to be such. I merely wish to present some generaliztions from the commandments for your consideration and discussion.
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We would love to hear your thoughts. You are fulfilling this scripture:

1 Corinthians 14:26 (NASB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.

We all need each other in the body of Christ and we all have a part to play as none of us knows it all and Paul says - "Those that think we know something - don't know it as we ought to know it."
 
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DJ2 said:
Not interested in the 10 Commandments right now, but I could really really use some advice on modern day tithing. I can not seem to get a straight answer on this subject. You seem to be a clear thinker and if you have some wisdom on this subject I would love to have it.
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Tithing was a practice that God embedded into the Law of Moses for the purpose of supporting the priesthood. The minimum tithe was to begin at one tenth from that which God had blessed them. This was of course augmented by the additional free will offerings upon the altar. Under the new covenant, we are simply given the charge to "On the first day of every week each one of you is to put aside and save, as he may prosper..." 1Corinthians 16:2. The purpose of this was to meet the pressing needs of those in the Church, in this particular case, the saints at Jerusalem who were presently being ravaged by famine. There is no mention as to the percentage this was to involve. No doubt the Jewish Christians at Corinth would have immediately used the tithing of the Law as their standard. Perhaps what we should consider is that Israel, who was under a far less superior Law enjoying much more limited blessings was to start their giving at 10%, how much more should we offer to the Lord who are under a far superior covenant with far greater blessings?
 
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