Is Christian Metal bad?

[Cino]

Wow. Just wow. Drop the self-righteous bull, please. If you have a personal conviction against modern Christian music, fine but don't call those who don't damned. I can see Jesus hanging out at a concert. Also, not all modern music is about evil, sex etc. You clearly know jack about the subject.

And read my reply correctly please. I did NOT say people who like metal were DAMNED. I said shame on any Christian who listens to that stuff. Show me where I used the word DAMNED? If you are going to get upset for me for saying something, then make sure you put my words in it, not add words to my message please.

 

[jandian]

That is a matter of discernment. the sad truth is if you check most of the mainstream gospel artiste, they are owned, managed and their songs are written by unbelievers,

[h=3]James 3:11[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

11 Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?

you have to also check their fruits, that's what the Lord said help us know.

 

[Tintin]

Cino, damned/not a Christian? Same thing. I changed the wording but not the spirit of your post.

 

[Tintin]

That is a matter of discernment. the sad truth is if you check most of the mainstream gospel artiste, they are owned, managed and their songs are written by unbelievers,

James 3:11

New King James Version (NKJV)

11 Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?

you have to also check their fruits, that's what the Lord said help us know.

Owned and managed, maybe but written by nonbelievers? I seriously doubt it.

 

[jandian]

Owned and managed, maybe but written by nonbelievers? I seriously doubt it.

awe.... so innocent

 

[Cino]

TINTIN... you seem to have a real problem with ANYTHING that ANYONE says against Christian metal on here. You are being argumentive to everyone who has a different opinion than you. How about take a step backwards and look at yourself how you are attacking everyone on here who doesn't agree with you....we all have our right to believe how we believe.

 

[Tintin]

Yes, I'm sorry for my augmentative attitude, that wasn't fair or right. As for people having different opinions/beliefs, I also believe that's fine but I have a huge problem with people who say that Christians who listen to Christian metal aren't really Christians at all.

 

[Nautilus]

there are two people in this thread that are just utterly clueless. You clearly have no idea what your talking about and should just leave the thread. You dont like christian metal? Cool dont listen to it, but buzz off and leave everyone else alone already. Youre no better than that catowner guy

 

[Cino]

Well maybe those who do like so called Christian metal should leave this thread too. Perhaps these people are clueless about real Christianity. It goes both ways, so stop judging and condemning people.

 

[ForthAngel]

Well maybe those who do like so called Christian metal should leave this thread too. Perhaps these people are clueless about real Christianity. It goes both ways, so stop judging and condemning people.

No one is judging those who don't like it....

 

[MaranathaSoonQuick]

Another no, Christian metal is exactly that, Christian, just because you can't understand it doesn't mean others can't either, too bad i can't vote, for some reason it's inactive, probably cause ¨someone¨ didn't like the way it was going, so i'm going to talk crap about it, who would put ¨not sure¨ and ¨don't really care¨ if that was the case they shouldn't vote.

 

[Cino]

No one is judging those who don't like it....

Well read the message from Nautilus above.

 

[Cino]

there are two people in this thread that are just utterly clueless. You clearly have no idea what your talking about and should just leave the thread. You dont like christian metal? Cool dont listen to it, but buzz off and leave everyone else alone already. Youre no better than that catowner guy

ForthAngel... read this if you think nobody is judging those who don't like it.

 

[HEknowsme]

and who says you and zone determine what glorifies God?

i guess to you two, God can't use a rock to bring Him glory...

Colossians 3:23-24
23 Whatever you do, do it enthusiastically, as something done for the Lord and not for men,
24 knowing that you will receive the reward of an inheritance from the Lord—you serve the Lord Christ

i have heard many amazing things come from Christian metal... Yahweh even used Christian metal to minister to me in my life when i was not saved; i have friends who have gone to Christian metal concerts, and have witnessed first hand people coming to know Yahweh for the first time through the music...
God is not so utterly powerless that he cannot use a music genre to bring sinners to know Him.

take God out of your box

I concur and I believe this scripture point this out as well.

[h=3]1 Corinthians 9:19-23[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[h=3]Paul’s Use of His Freedom[/h][SUP]19 [/SUP]Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. [SUP]20 [/SUP]To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. [SUP]21 [/SUP]To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.


To a Rocker who loves metal, The gospel reaches the lost in this genre of music. To those who like blues the gospel reaches the blues lover, to those who love pop, Jesus is glorified there as His word is lifted up.

as the scripture says.
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[h=3]1 Corinthians 1:27[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]27 [/SUP]But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

 

[ForthAngel]

Well read the message from Nautilus above.

ForthAngel... read this if you think nobody is judging those who don't like it.

I read his comment and I agree with him. It wasn't judgmental. These are judgmental:

So you can worship God by banging your head. This is what those who worshipped Ashtoreth did. I guess it is okay to pass children through the fire of Molech. As long as the name Jesus is in it. Man maybe I should put on some led zepplin and cut myself. That what they did to Baal. Go ahead and bang your head.

Here are some pretty serious accusations by someone who doesn't examine the content of the music, he simple passes ignorant prejudgments on those who listen to Christian metal and even compared us to demon worshipers. He will be held accountable for this. You go on to say:

We can twist the word of God around to make ourselves feel good. We can talk ourselves into doing evil things, because it makes u feel good and we can convince ourselves that nothing is wrong with it. If you truly believe that there is such a thing as Christian metal or Christian rock, then I'm sorry to say, but you are not truly a Christian. Have you truly asked yourself if that kind of music, music & words, would please God if HE were present today? Would you truly see Jesus at a concert with that kind of music? Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. Only songs that praise the name of the Lord are true Christians songs, not songs about evil, sex, or anything else other than God. End of story. If your song does not have the words to praise the Lord, then forget it. If the beat is what gets you into a mood an overtakes you, and not the words of the song, then forget it. How many more evil things have to come to light in this world for Satan to turn it around and say they are Christian and Holy? Truly we are living in the last times, if you even think that these songs are Christian. Shame to all the Christians that listen to this rubbish.

No. Shame on you Cino. You twist scripture. You can't even provide us with scripture to back up your points. The same is true on the tattoo thread. You are replaying everything you've heard all your life without looking for yourself. You are the one who has convinced yourself that everything -you- listen to is ok. Like none of the emo feel good music you listen to doesn't alter your mood at all? C'mon, stop lying to yourself. You make the claim that Christian metal is about "evil, sex, or anything else other than God". Have you even taken 5 minutes to examine one Christian metal song, or have you been too hard-headed and stuck on your own brainwashed belief that these are what the lyrics represent?

Then you go on to call all those who listen to this music, and I quote, "no truly a Christian". Again, shame on you Cino and all the others who are thinking like you. Have you examined the content of your music to see if it really lines up with the Word? Do you know how deceptive your easy listening music can be? Do you listen to even one worldly song? If so, I can say you are as conformed, or even MUCH more so than those who like the Christian metal genre. Then you make some more claims:

The Bible tell us how to praise God, and metal music is NOT praising God, end of story. Don't be so judgemental yourself and stop condemning people yourself. You say I know nothing about the subject, but I can then say the same thing back to you, that you know nothing about the Bible and how to praise and worship God. I don't think you like that do you? I have a right to my opinion, and I just feel that there is not such thing as Christian metal, and I certainly do not think it praises God according to how He wants to be praised. And if you think you can see Jesus at a concert, then you are really far from the truth.

I can see Jesus at a Christian metal concert and having a good time with the people there worshiping. Since when are you the judge of God? There is no biblical reference that condemns a SOUND in any way. Can you please show me, with your VAST understanding of the Bible, where this is located so I can see for myself and perhaps repent of my "evil, sexual" music? You can't. Who says how you praise and worship is the only way? We do it with joy and with praise and with complete sincerity. We aren't trying to please you or others. We are pleasing God and take joy in the gift of grace and salvation that he has allowed us to be apart of.

Well maybe those who do like so called Christian metal should leave this thread too. Perhaps these people are clueless about real Christianity. It goes both ways, so stop judging and condemning people.

Again, shame on YOU Cino and your lack of knowledge and inability to see past the tip of your nose. You prove to me using scripture how this is evil and I will accept your correction and repent. until you can do that, you have nothing to say other than your rude comments about how we are all devil worshipers and not Christians.

 

[ForthAngel]

I thought this might be appropriate from another thread:

After you get all your historic information on David, don't forget to put in the most important thing.... that God said David was a man after His own heart. We ask how can this be? David committed adultery and murder, and God said he's a man after His own heart? That is because God looks at the heart of man....and David obviously had a humble, repentance, contrite heart that sought after God's forgiveness. David loved the Lord, and truly repented. It was that beautiful humble, contrite heart of David that God loved, and said that David was a man after his own heart. God hates the proud, but gives grace to the humble. Just wanted to make sure you add that in, as that is a very important message about David.

 

[Nautilus]

i like how its only people over 40 against christian metal for the most part...its more likely they are scared of change and different new music than anything else.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

Is Christan Metal BAD??

In one word: YES!

 

[Cino]

I read his comment and I agree with him. It wasn't judgmental. These are judgmental:



Here are some pretty serious accusations by someone who doesn't examine the content of the music, he simple passes ignorant prejudgments on those who listen to Christian metal and even compared us to demon worshipers. He will be held accountable for this. You go on to say:



No. Shame on you Cino. You twist scripture. You can't even provide us with scripture to back up your points. The same is true on the tattoo thread. You are replaying everything you've heard all your life without looking for yourself. You are the one who has convinced yourself that everything -you- listen to is ok. Like none of the emo feel good music you listen to doesn't alter your mood at all? C'mon, stop lying to yourself. You make the claim that Christian metal is about "evil, sex, or anything else other than God". Have you even taken 5 minutes to examine one Christian metal song, or have you been too hard-headed and stuck on your own brainwashed belief that these are what the lyrics represent?

Then you go on to call all those who listen to this music, and I quote, "no truly a Christian". Again, shame on you Cino and all the others who are thinking like you. Have you examined the content of your music to see if it really lines up with the Word? Do you know how deceptive your easy listening music can be? Do you listen to even one worldly song? If so, I can say you are as conformed, or even MUCH more so than those who like the Christian metal genre. Then you make some more claims:



I can see Jesus at a Christian metal concert and having a good time with the people there worshiping. Since when are you the judge of God? There is no biblical reference that condemns a SOUND in any way. Can you please show me, with your VAST understanding of the Bible, where this is located so I can see for myself and perhaps repent of my "evil, sexual" music? You can't. Who says how you praise and worship is the only way? We do it with joy and with praise and with complete sincerity. We aren't trying to please you or others. We are pleasing God and take joy in the gift of grace and salvation that he has allowed us to be apart of.



Again, shame on YOU Cino and your lack of knowledge and inability to see past the tip of your nose. You prove to me using scripture how this is evil and I will accept your correction and repent. until you can do that, you have nothing to say other than your rude comments about how we are all devil worshipers and not Christians.

WOW... who's being judgmental now? You say shame on me for judging, but just look in the mirror. How about you tell me scripture that backs up your view? It goes both ways. There is no scripture for backing it up either, so don't be so high headed and quick to judge. You will have your reward for your words. Read some of the other comments on here, and you will see that I am NOT the only person who doesn't agree with Christian metal or think it's bad. Talk to them too okay?

You know, your judging me the way you are, and talking to me the way you are is no better than what you think I am doing. Just think of it... look in the mirror yourself. You say Christian metal is so good and you are a Christian, yet look at the way you talk? Is that what Christian metal does? Make a person talk like you? Then thank God, I do not listen to Christian metal.

I stand by what I said. I do not think God is pleased with that kind of music, and I have just as much right to say my opinion as you have to defend it. So get off your high horse and stop thinking that you know everything about the Bible. Other people know things too, okay?

 

[Cino]

I read his comment and I agree with him. It wasn't judgmental. These are judgmental:



Here are some pretty serious accusations by someone who doesn't examine the content of the music, he simple passes ignorant prejudgments on those who listen to Christian metal and even compared us to demon worshipers. He will be held accountable for this. You go on to say:



No. Shame on you Cino. You twist scripture. You can't even provide us with scripture to back up your points. The same is true on the tattoo thread. You are replaying everything you've heard all your life without looking for yourself. You are the one who has convinced yourself that everything -you- listen to is ok. Like none of the emo feel good music you listen to doesn't alter your mood at all? C'mon, stop lying to yourself. You make the claim that Christian metal is about "evil, sex, or anything else other than God". Have you even taken 5 minutes to examine one Christian metal song, or have you been too hard-headed and stuck on your own brainwashed belief that these are what the lyrics represent?

Then you go on to call all those who listen to this music, and I quote, "no truly a Christian". Again, shame on you Cino and all the others who are thinking like you. Have you examined the content of your music to see if it really lines up with the Word? Do you know how deceptive your easy listening music can be? Do you listen to even one worldly song? If so, I can say you are as conformed, or even MUCH more so than those who like the Christian metal genre. Then you make some more claims:



I can see Jesus at a Christian metal concert and having a good time with the people there worshiping. Since when are you the judge of God? There is no biblical reference that condemns a SOUND in any way. Can you please show me, with your VAST understanding of the Bible, where this is located so I can see for myself and perhaps repent of my "evil, sexual" music? You can't. Who says how you praise and worship is the only way? We do it with joy and with praise and with complete sincerity. We aren't trying to please you or others. We are pleasing God and take joy in the gift of grace and salvation that he has allowed us to be apart of.



Again, shame on YOU Cino and your lack of knowledge and inability to see past the tip of your nose. You prove to me using scripture how this is evil and I will accept your correction and repent. until you can do that, you have nothing to say other than your rude comments about how we are all devil worshipers and not Christians.

One more thing... my, I must have hit a nerve with you. A person can only be so defensive as you are because they have the spirit of anger and revenge in them. It this hit a nerve with you, and you don't like what I said, then pray about it.