Is God’s law a weapon against Satan?

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Jesus did not lead a rebellion nor a riot against the Romans occuation.

John 18:[SUP]36 [/SUP]Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.[SUP] 2 [/SUP]Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.[SUP] 3 [/SUP]For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:[SUP] 4 [/SUP]For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.[SUP] 5 [/SUP]Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.[SUP] 6 [/SUP]For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.[SUP] 7 [/SUP]Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.[SUP] 8 [/SUP]Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.[SUP] 9 [/SUP]For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.[SUP] 10 [/SUP]Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.[SUP]11 [/SUP]And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.[SUP]12 [/SUP]The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.[SUP]13 [/SUP]Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.[SUP]14 [/SUP]But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Let us set our minds and hearts on the things above, and not the things on the earth.
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And he said unto them, (And He says the same to us) "When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth." (Luke 11:2) Doesn't Jesus want the kingdom of heaven and earth the same according to his will? I thought He did.
 
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We follow Jesus and listen to His word
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AMEN! Following is more than listening, it's doing. So what do we do to resist the Devil? I am relating that statement back to the OP, and the title of this thread.
 
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And he said unto them, (And He says the same to us) "When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth." (Luke 11:2) Doesn't Jesus want the kingdom of heaven and earth the same according to his will? I thought He did.
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Your emphasis in red is about the Father's will being done; His kingdom will come on earth, but Jesus Christ will do it after the great tribulation.

We are not to fight for His kingdom when it is not on earth yet, and America is hardly His kingdom.

We are to be a light to the world... if we run the way the world runs and live the way sinners do, where is the light of Christ then? So lean on Him in trusting Him to be your Good Shepherd to help you live as His disciples in being a light to the world.

John 7:[SUP]7 [/SUP]The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

John 17:[SUP]13 [/SUP]And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.[SUP]14 [/SUP]I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.[SUP]15 [/SUP]I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

John 15:[SUP]17 [/SUP]These things I command you, that ye love one another.[SUP]18 [/SUP]If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.[SUP]19 [/SUP]If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

If you want to look at this in another way... during the great tribulation, a mark of the beast system to buy and sell by that mark on the hand or forehead will be implemented while a war is being waged on the saints. Now it is written that those with the mark of the beast will go to the lake of fire, no matter what. So of all the people you would think we would be allow to kill, it would be them, but no.

Jesus left these warnings for those saints during that time.

Revelation 13:[SUP]9 [/SUP]If any man have an ear, let him hear.[SUP] 10 [/SUP]He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

The difference between the enemy now and then is that the ones now can still be redeemed. So if we are not allowed to kill those destined to the lake of fire no matter what, how do we treat those who are our enemies now fall in? To love our enemies and to pray for those that persecute us.

Matthew 5:[SUP]43 [/SUP]Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.[SUP] 44 [/SUP]But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;[SUP] 45 [/SUP]That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.[SUP] 46 [/SUP]For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?[SUP] 47 [/SUP]And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?[SUP] 48 [/SUP]Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
So if Jesus did not rebel against the Roman occupation of Israel, but focused on His ministry to the lost, where do you think your focus should be?
 
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God's Law is God's Heart, from Him to us...may we choose His path/ways as He calls us...
 
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oldethennew said:
God's Law is God's Heart, from Him to us...may we choose His path/ways as He calls us...
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Amen!

There are many lawless people as we see in the national news on a daily basis. Who is responsible under heaven to teach the law to the lawless? We all know this, but religiously seem to refuse to do so. When all is said and done, who will hear the Words of Jesus say "well done my good and faithful servant?"

"Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers," (1 Timothy 1:9)

"For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;" (Romans 2:12)

Why can't we be like Paul and follow his example, clearly making it known that the "law of God" is no different than the "law of Christ." He was not outside the framework of God’s law but within the framework of the law as upheld by Jesus Christ. He said in 1 Corinthians 9:21-22b that "To them that are without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law... I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some."





 
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