Is it already too late?

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PilgrimProgress

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People, I have something on my heart. God has already answered me time and time again. He has told me to have faith and that He is in control.

I am not questioning God, His judgements or His Plans for the Future. I know that God is an all consuming fire, He is the Most High God, and more than worthy for giving His Son, and giving us a way to Heaven through the free gift that is Jesus...

Hmmm...

This issue is sensitive to a lot of Christians. You have to talk about it in a certain way, though. And ask a particular series of questions to really pull on people's heart strings.

If you can see where I'm heading with this, before I get started, I want to make a few suggestions.

I know you might be 20 - 70 years old, but if you haven't read the whole bible, and if you are not 100% confident in Jesus - I suggest you go download the whole Bible in Audio Format and give the topic some good thought and prayer, fasting always from sin.

The topics are kind of three-fold, but bear with me. If I knew of any quick and easy answer, I can assure you that I wouldn't make a thread.

And I also think that this topic is... for most Christians and Jews alike, very unnerving.

I think the consensus among Jews and Christians worldwide is a feeling somewhere between gall/bitterness and frustration.

Every day, more and more Christians are being bullied, Jews are being attacked, and nobody seems to know why.

If you do a search through the news as much as I have, you will know that there some real awful stuff going on out there.

I believe it was last month, but a group of devil-worshipers opened fire on another Christian Church in Cairo.

I know what you saying - Egypt is not my country. It doesn't concern me. And I'm not talking about Egypt. Listen real close to what I'm saying...

I'm talking about a global thing going on.

Of course, a lot of media has been given to Obama and his gun grabs, and making it seem like Christians are the enemy.

Are we the enemy?

I thought God elected Abraham all the way through to King David to show to the world that He wanted to end all war, all violence, all evil in the world - but everyone disagrees.

I thought God sent Jesus to save the world - but everyone seems to think that Jesus just aint down with it. With what? Pop Culture. You know what I mean.

There are good Christians, and bad ones. All have sinned, and fallen - but many are called, and few are chosen too. There are few Shepherds, and many ravenous wolves.

Jesus spoke in Parables, so did the Apostles.

The pitch on my sentences is getting a bit loud.

What I'm trying to say is that God is not guilty of evil.

Take the flood for instance.

Many people don't realize, but around that time all the good people were killed off the earth. There was no good people to drown. Only Noah. But the operative words is: there were no good people, they had all been killed, except Noah.

People were evil. They were having sex with fallen angels and demons and God knows what else. Drinking blood, sacrificing their children... cannibalism...

Man, if I lived back then, I'd book a First Row Seat on Noah's ark. Man, I'd help him build it. Sure, I'd be a couple feet shorter than the guy, and a couple hundreds years younger, but I'd help build a boat for Noah.

Again and again and again, I here people blaming our God for the sins that they have committed. And it's not just the big ones, it's the little one's too. It's like there is something popular out of debasing the name of God.

Anyway.

Back to my questions.

Everyone knows that the Holocaust and Inquisitions happened. But no one seems to know who all the nations were that denied safe asylum for these Jews and Christians during these times, and who exactly supported the ethnic cleansing of our fathers.

I did some research, and I found something very astounding.

I believe this will probably be the first time that you are ever hearing it, unless - you like history.

It's a big secret. Legally, over 200 countries are allowed to deny that the Holocaust even existed. Legally. And they say the Legal System is Corrupt. I think I believe them.

The Inquisition is slightly different, because the Catholics want everyone to believe that they represent Christians, meanwhile all they actually do is enslave us and force us to worship the way they say we must... it's a long story.

Long story short, there was a build up.

Long story short, there was - you could say - a long series of mini-Holocausts and mini-Inquisitions. And then there were big ones, but there were a series. It wasn't just ONE Holocaust, or ONE Inquisition.

And for those of you who do not know what the Inquisitions is - I suggest you start reading something like the Foxe's Book of Martyrs. You'll probably need glasses after that and start squinting, but it'll be worth it.

But, there were lots of little Holocausts that lead up to the Holocaust. Hundreds years here, and another hundred there. You do your research and you'll find that the Jews have been butchered from nation to nation; same with Christians.

And probably the most depressing of all findings is that Christians right now as I type, and now, again, as you read - are being martyred for the name of Jesus.

Yes, I'm telling you no lies. And even if you watch the mainstream news, some of that information has to come to you.

It's not that people don't know about all this stuff, it's just that it is so hush-hush.

Now, a friend of mine had a dream about his country. He's not sure if it's true or false, but he knows that it has something to do with the end.

I don't mean to sound gloomy, because I believe in the Rapture and The Second Coming. I believe that Jesus is going to save us.

So don't get me wrong, but World War Three and The New World Order have been topics for the past couple couple hundred years.

Things are not looking good. I could go through all the news, but my mission in life is not to be a tel-prompter.

It's to preach the gospel of Christ, teach and baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

Because the Gospel deals a hell of a lot with - and I hate to be frank, but - hell, I'm pretty sure Jesus would want all of us to know what's going on, what's going to happen, and where everybody's going to go when it all goes down.

Now I don't mean to sound so end of days, but I'm sure that there comes a time in every believer's life when he or she has got to ask, Is it safe to be a Christian?

Of course we have the Holy Spirit, and like the Apostles and many disciples we should follow Christ - but if someone is threatening us purely because we're Christian, if we can get out of there, we going to run - nobody is going to sit and watch the showdown.

I don't mean to make it sound like this is the end or there's no hope. I'm definitely not saying, but what I am saying is that I don't know a piece of history. And I'm not sure others Christians and Jews know it either.

Which nations helped Hitler during the Holocaust, and the Roman Catholic Church during several of its Inquisitions?

More importantly... out of all the countries in the world... who gave safe asylum?

Think about it. Those are millions and millions of human lives from all over the world that were rounded up and murdered. Who was involved? Who didn't wanna help? And who wanted to give Safe Asylum.

I'm sure that you and your family would hate the idea of another Holocaust or another Inquisition, but it might be necessary for the forces of evil to usher in their Antichrist. It might what is needed for the New Jerusalem and Jesus to return.

Christian are martyred all over the show. It's not such a farfetched notion.

Now like I said, I know this is a sensitive topic. So I'm going to ask you please if you can extend any mature advice and Spiritual Guided truth then that would be much appreciated. I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking about these thing.

In the past, I didn't like to be the one to take the lead, but for Jesus sake - I'm going to extend a prayer out to God right now.


Dear Father,

I come to you in the name of your son Jesus.

Lord, I don't want to say that we don't deserve to be persecuted, tortured and martyred in the world. And that we don't deserve to have our good shepherds taken away, but I want to say that you are Holy, and your will is perfect.

Lord, there seems to be some witchcraft a foot and hypocrisy in the world that it thinks it should call us a disease. All men, saved and unsaved are guilty of sin. It is only through your Son that anything can make a difference.

Lord, we are tired of all the evil in the world. We know we must keep on working, never give up, stay strong in the faith - be peaceful and charitable. We know that we must never loose hope, but we ask you Lord - please help us.

Lord, help our persecutes to see clearly. Please turn the hearts of all the leaders in the world who are turned against us. Give them a 180 please Father.

Lord, you changed the heart of Nebuchadnezzar, and you delivered your people out of the hands of Pharaoh.

Lord, you rained down mammon on your people. You fed us Lord. Lord you clothed us and gave us drink. Lord you put song in our hearts and gave us life.

Lord, you delivered your armies of Israel out of the hands of it's persecutors, but now oh Lord, things have gotten real bad.

It looks like Christians are going to be rounded up once again, and like there is nothing no one can do to stop it from happening. Lord, please have mercy on your people. Forgive us. We are sorry. We repent. Lord, please deliver us. Please turn the hearts of the leaders who have set themselves against you. Show them the way. Deliver them out of their sins. Make them examples to all nations and peoples that the Lord our God has risen his people out of the darkness, and shown the people light.

Lord, Asia, Lord, Africa, Lord, America, Lord Europe... deliver all people out of the hand of the wicked one. Deliver Presidents Lord, and Queens. Lord may Kings repent and know that you are God.

Lord, I pray for your rapture, and I pray for your protection over all your people.

And we know that you sent your son to give us boldness and courage and shamelessness to preach the Gospel wherever whenever. May your strength and vigor remain with all of us forever.

Amen!
 

crossnote

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is it already too late for what?
 
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John_S

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"A lot of media has been given to Obama and his gun grabs, and making it seem like Christians are the enemy".

Sir or Madam - I think that you are nothing more than a mean-spirited, hate-filled, hate-spewing, anti-Catholic, ultra-conservative, bigoted, (further words purposely kept to myself).

Praying to God, and asking for His forgiveness, DOES look like a thing that you should be doing.
 
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timberdoodle

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"A lot of media has been given to Obama and his gun grabs, and making it seem like Christians are the enemy".

Sir or Madam - I think that you are nothing more than a mean-spirited, hate-filled, hate-spewing, anti-Catholic, ultra-conservative, bigoted, (further words purposely kept to myself).

Praying to God, and asking for His forgiveness, DOES look like a thing that you should be doing.
WOW! Where did that come from?
 
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I say look for those of Abram to try and smite those of the cross.
 
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On a Sabbath day.
 
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Kerry

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Obama went for the guns because he is afraid of a revolt over Obamacare. But it is going to happen anyway. David Wilkerson, before his death recorded one last Prophecy. He saw cities burning by the hands of angry mobs. Cities in America and not by the hands of an enemy or foreign country, but by people that were fed up with the federal government. Obamacare was to be his greatest achievement but I believe it will be the catalyst for revolution in this country . I may be wrong, but you can only police people as they are willing to be policed. Other nations use religion to help in the police if government, but we are still a christian nation and if we can thwart England we can thwart Obama.
 

Apostol2013

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just trust in the goodness of Christ and die for your beliefs if it should come down to it but do it in the Godly manner wich jesus taught us :
[h=1]Matthew 10:28 (King James Version[/h]






[h=3]Matthew 10:28
[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]28 [/SUP]And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.